You did, that is why Molly is wondering why Mab only mentioned one more exorcism.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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You did, that is why Molly is wondering why Mab only mentioned one more exorcism.
"Ah. That was the sensation of Mab now owing me favors. Don't worry about it."
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Which ooc probably is Lea and not the other two Names on the list Molly gave her.
Just as a reminder, do you want to talk about how you saw Nemesis' greatest shame and what it is? Because if you vote for everything that is included.
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[X] [LYDIA] My meeting went fairly well. I no longer have any enmity from winter and the she is actually in my debt. Also had a great victory against the things beyond the outer gates. These two things might be related.
[X] [MICHAEL] My meeting went fairly well. I no longer have any enmity from winter and the she is actually in my debt. Also had a great victory against the things beyond the outer gates. These two things might be related.
[X] [CHARITY] My meeting went fairly well. I no longer have any enmity from winter and the she is actually in my debt. Also had a great victory against the things beyond the outer gates. These two things might be related.
[X] [MICHAEL] My meeting went fairly well. I no longer have any enmity from winter and the she is actually in my debt. Also had a great victory against the things beyond the outer gates. These two things might be related.
[X] [CHARITY] My meeting went fairly well. I no longer have any enmity from winter and the she is actually in my debt. Also had a great victory against the things beyond the outer gates. These two things might be related.
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Probably only to Michael, maybe Lydia.
I don't think we even have told Lydia about our Crown, though we have not been shy about pulling information with it in her presence.
… We need to pop HC stat, cause someone has clearly replaced Charity if this isn't in fact Nemesis trying extra hard.
They clearly know things about the enemy's plans though.
Their value isn't the same, but being able to get a look at what nemesis was up to is worth something.
Even better, countering that tactic means compartmentalizing even further within its own thoughts. It can probably make something work, but just the credible threat makes its job harder.
As my stunt from earlier pointed out, this is a soft spot in nemesis's operations for someone with Winter's reach.
We will now only argue with Charity with Lydia present, in fact, we should remove ourselves from the scene when doing so, we seems to give bad vibes.
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[X][All Three] Apparently the bitch Sandra Marling set me up to fall afoul of the Laws.
-[X] Winter has rendered all my past transgressions void and now owes me two favors.
[X] [LYDIA] That would include much of what your father did not wish to talk about to you. If you still want to know, I'll tell you though.
-[X] If she wants to know: Exorcised Nemesis out of the Winter Lady, witnessed Nemesis Greatest Shame. (With NWS explanation)
-[X] If she doesn't: Exorcised the Winter Lady of a possessing entity.
[X] [MICHAEL] Exorcised Nemesis out of the Winter Lady, witnessed Nemesis Greatest Shame. Likely set some others possessed by it up to be killed by Mab. Since she didn't ask for two more exorcising. (With NWS explanation)
[X] [CHARITY] Exorcised the Winter Lady of a possessing entity.
-[X] Winter has rendered all my past transgressions void and now owes me two favors.
[X] [LYDIA] That would include much of what your father did not wish to talk about to you. If you still want to know, I'll tell you though.
-[X] If she wants to know: Exorcised Nemesis out of the Winter Lady, witnessed Nemesis Greatest Shame. (With NWS explanation)
-[X] If she doesn't: Exorcised the Winter Lady of a possessing entity.
[X] [MICHAEL] Exorcised Nemesis out of the Winter Lady, witnessed Nemesis Greatest Shame. Likely set some others possessed by it up to be killed by Mab. Since she didn't ask for two more exorcising. (With NWS explanation)
[X] [CHARITY] Exorcised the Winter Lady of a possessing entity.
I figure she didn't have a specific big evil plan, she was just out to profit as much as she could.
The big guys do plot, but treating everything like a 12 step plan to enslave us or something is counterproductive.
She almost certainly would if she thought it'd work, but this whole thing had the look of bribery and relationship remediation.
That sort of operation makes more sense, because it's a flexible configuration you can work with even when you're working with an evolving situation without a lot of information to work with.
Nemesis' shame is definitely something to pass up the divine grapevine, Heaven probably have a better context if they don't already know it.
I'm assuming Lucifer isn't the vengeful Prince mentioned but still good to pass on.
If this is something Michael shouldn't know then hopefully Amoracchius will give Molly a hint or something.
I'm in favour of giving Lydia the deets if she wants to know.
Charity should just get the broad strokes, no need to put her in danger with information she doesn't need to know.
Also yeah, I bet the local Nevernever was freaking out from the wrath of the Winter Queen.
Hopefully Molly gives Harry the OK, I can see him working himself into a right state worrying if he doesn't have context for things happening.
I'm assuming Lucifer isn't the vengeful Prince mentioned but still good to pass on.
If this is something Michael shouldn't know then hopefully Amoracchius will give Molly a hint or something.
I'm in favour of giving Lydia the deets if she wants to know.
Charity should just get the broad strokes, no need to put her in danger with information she doesn't need to know.
Also yeah, I bet the local Nevernever was freaking out from the wrath of the Winter Queen.
Hopefully Molly gives Harry the OK, I can see him working himself into a right state worrying if he doesn't have context for things happening.
Kind of yeah, it's not that it values the people it possesses, it values the feeling of possessing them sometimes above their value to the mission. It can sometimes lose itself in the feeling of being someone else as one does in a pleasant daydream and it hates itself for that.
Harry's a senior military commander for a supernatural nationstate at war.
Aint nobody got time for that.
Also, not a world-body.
The WoD term is Horizon Realm.
Say what you will about her parents, but they do seem to be genuinely affectionate towards each other, and she has living step-siblings. They are a family, living in a family house, behind a family's threshold.
Rosie's got much better passive defenses if she was living behind their threshold as opposed to living alone.
We just need to invest the effort to convince them that she can make a go of keeping her kid(s) with our financial and moral support, instead of her trying to do the single parent thing at 18 with no support besides her stepdad.
I mean, this was 2006.
Pre-Obamacare, and its requirements that a child can stay on their family insurance until 26.
Just the healthcare bills for giving birth to an uncomplicated pregnancy are going to be in the five figure range.
Fair.
Part of my research suggests you cant maintain a high tech civilization with less than a hundred million people anyway.
Yes.
The White God is not an algorithm, his rules are not predicated on interpretations of the letter of the law like the Unseelie Accords, and the continuing on-screen experience of the Denarians and Luci's Hell suggest that you cannot One Weird Trick him; everytime they think they've found an exploitable loophole and go for it, they eat a penalty.
COMMENTARY
- Molly manages to keep a poker face. Not bad.
And dramatic exit too.
-Makes sense. Its not that Mab cant cure Nfection, because we know she can; its that it takes a very long time, can be quite painful, and may require consent if the victim is powerful enough. If you assume that Mab feels dutybound to pay fair market value when she calls on the Infernal Exalt's seevices, she'd only call in Molly where speed and clarity are essential.
So she'd do it for Lea, her second in command. She'd do it for Maeve, her daughter and heir-apparent.
But Eldest Rawhead? The other guy? Arent as important or time sensitive to Winter's function, and they have deputies. She'd probably prefer them cured, but doesnt need to hurry it. She can just dump them in ice to cure them the long way, or simply have them euthanised and their deputies/heirs take their place.
Besides, I think Eldest Rawhead may be part of Maeve's retinue. We certainly see a rawhead in her retinue in Cold Days.
So if someone is going to try and get him healed faster, its probably her.
-Yeah, Molly needs to build Clippy a new phone with better tech.
Or to buy Cyberdevils 3.
Maybe both.
-Huh. The jawas got to see actual magic.
-Lydia confirms that there isnt a hope of hiding what happened tonight.
If Occult 1 Lydia Rhi could feel what we were doing from behind her wards despite the lack of any specialized equipment, then its safe to assume any of the actual seriousface organizations have been staring at their sensors and oracles all evening.
So even aside from Winter Court gossip, people are gonna know. And there will be Winter Court gossip.
Lololol.
Charity Legendary Carpenter gets rolled by Lydia? I never thought I'd see the day
*looks at interception roll*
Huh. Something tried to pick a fight with us, but we blew past it like Road Runner vs Wil E Coyote. So naagloshii, or lesser skinwalkers? Because an attempted interception requires that said person be able to keep up with a woman flying faster than a WW2 fighter plane and with the maneuverability of a hummingbird, and those are the two threats that come to mind.
Nemesis is a secret.
Outsiders, certainly not. Dresden talks about them fairly freely with other wizards in Dead Beat, when they were used openly in attacks on the White Council. He talks about them in Proven Guilty, when Michael saves a bunch of wizards and wizard trainees from Outsider and Rampire attack. He talks about them with Thomas and Murphy in Cold Days.
And frankly, with Nemesis and its agents going out of their way to target Molly and the Carpenter family when they were civilians, Charity has need to know.
There's no reason to hide the details of this from her. Might give her nightmares, but she lives with the knowledge of the Denarians.
She'll cope.
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Hm..
We know fairies literally can't let a debt go.
Maeve owes Nemesis quite a bit of retribution. She might be truly motivated for once in her life.
And worse she found something to agree with her mother on.
Winter is coming.
Names have power. We should not mention Nemesis by name. We are not under Mab's circle of wards. Nemesis may just feel us mention it.Harry's a senior military commander for a supernatural nationstate at war.
Aint nobody got time for that.
Also, not a world-body.
The WoD term is Horizon Realm.
Say what you will about her parents, but they do seem to be genuinely affectionate towards each other, and she has living step-siblings. They are a family, living in a family house, behind a family's threshold.
Rosie's got much better passive defenses if she was living behind their threshold as opposed to living alone.
We just need to invest the effort to convince them that she can make a go of keeping her kid(s) with our financial and moral support, instead of her trying to do the single parent thing at 18 with no support besides her stepdad.
I mean, this was 2006.
Pre-Obamacare, and its requirements that a child can stay on their family insurance until 26.
Just the healthcare bills for giving birth to an uncomplicated pregnancy are going to be in the five figure range.
Fair.
Part of my research suggests you cant maintain a high tech civilization with less than a hundred million people anyway.
Yes.
The White God is not an algorithm, his rules are not predicated on interpretations of the letter of the law like the Unseelie Accords, and the continuing on-screen experience of the Denarians and Luci's Hell suggest that you cannot One Weird Trick him; everytime they think they've found an exploitable loophole and go for it, they eat a penalty.
COMMENTARY
- Molly manages to keep a poker face. Not bad.
And dramatic exit too.
-Makes sense. Its not that Mab cant cure Nfection, because we know she can; its that it takes a very long time, can be quite painful, and may require consent if the victim is powerful enough. If you assume that Mab feels dutybound to pay fair market value when she calls on the Infernal Exalt's seevices, she'd only call in Molly where speed and clarity are essential.
So she'd do it for Lea, her second in command. She'd do it for Maeve, her daughter and heir-apparent.
But Eldest Rawhead? The other guy? Arent as important or time sensitive to Winter's function, and they have deputies. She'd probably prefer them cured, but doesnt need to hurry it. She can just dump them in ice to cure them the long way, or simply have them euthanised and their deputies/heirs take their place.
Besides, I think Eldest Rawhead may be part of Maeve's retinue. We certainly see a rawhead in her retinue in Cold Days.
So if someone is going to try and get him healed faster, its probably her.
-Yeah, Molly needs to build Clippy a new phone with better tech.
Or to buy Cyberdevils 3.
Maybe both.
-Huh. The jawas got to see actual magic.
-Lydia confirms that there isnt a hope of hiding what happened tonight.
If Occult 1 Lydia Rhi could feel what we were doing from behind her wards despite the lack of any specialized equipment, then its safe to assume any of the actual seriousface organizations have been staring at their sensors and oracles all evening.
So even aside from Winter Court gossip, people are gonna know. And there will be Winter Court gossip.
Lololol.
Charity Legendary Carpenter gets rolled by Lydia? I never thought I'd see the day
*looks at interception roll*
Huh. Something tried to pick a fight with us, but we blew past it like Road Runner vs Wil E Coyote. So naagloshii, or lesser skinwalkers? Because an attempted interception requires that said person be able to keep up with a woman flying faster than a WW2 fighter plane and with the maneuverability of a hummingbird, and those are the two threats that come to mind.
Nemesis is a secret.
Outsiders, certainly not. Dresden talks about them fairly freely with other wizards in Dead Beat, when they were used openly in attacks on the White Council. He talks about them in Proven Guilty, when Michael saves a bunch of wizards and wizard trainees from Outsider and Rampire attack. He talks about them with Thomas and Murphy in Cold Days.
And frankly, with Nemesis and its agents going out of their way to target Molly and the Carpenter family when they were civilians, Charity has need to know.
There's no reason to hide the details of this from her. Might give her nightmares, but she lives with the knowledge of the Denarians.
She'll cope.
The general category "outsiders" is likely fine. Outsiders is a label, not a name. You can tell someone that something is an outsider fairly safely. You do not name outsiders without extreme caution.
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Is it just me being paranoid as usual or should we get ready for a fight?
I never liked hidden interception rolls. Our dice thinks we should always ran into the worst sort of people.
You are currently inside the Carpenter Home, you are fine. The interception was for when you were flying over here, basically mote-tapped.
This is the Carpenter house. Site of some of the most powerful passive defenses around.
The same defenses that prevent the Denarians, and specifically Anduriel from spying on the place even when their names are used in conversation will serve to keep Nemesis and its ears out.
And IC, it makes sense to Molly that defenses exist against that sort of stuff given that Knights of the Sword have repeatedly made plans here, and a Sword is resident here.
EDIT
I was gonna suggest bringing Harry and Bob to the Carpenter house for a briefing, but then I remembered that Harry's house has Mouse in residence.
And Mouse is bullshit when defending a threshold. Its probably secure.
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Pity we lack Endless Torment Emanation. Nemesis suffering +2 DC for a while would be great. Really should pick up ETE it basically shutdown any prolonged enemy operation Molly encounters.
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outsiders are partly memetic hazards knowing of them in canon literally empowers them given on any scale for individual people probably doesn't mean much also fear. Lovecrafts stuff is enough to at least somewhat empower the sleeping old god or whatever in the pacific. Mind you this is in canon I'm not sure any of this is true at all here. Given its still more lax a conspiracy than world of darkness often is though plenty of wizards barely know about outsiders at all. Some of the younger ones think the outer gates are metaphorical or non wizards do.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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So many cool charms so little XP.
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which is weird since in canon only mortals can summon them as we've been told. Well unless dp changed that or they are just using minions to do it which is perfectly doable.