[X] All Things Betray
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- washington
Hmm too tired to stay up I don't really want to vote as usually a more detailed plan comes later. Buuuuuut, I'll miss it anyway as imma sleep probably.
[X] All Things Betray
[X] All Things Betray
- Location
- washington
[X] All Things Betray
-[X] Stunt: Empowered by the cold you stare at the Maeve popsicle. Not to look at her, but past her into the depths of this alien being hiding inside her. You wonder what might shame it.
-[X] Stunt: Empowered by the cold you stare at the Maeve popsicle. Not to look at her, but past her into the depths of this alien being hiding inside her. You wonder what might shame it.
[X] All Things Betray
-[X] Stunt: Empowered by the cold you stare at the Maeve popsicle. Not to look at her, but past her into the depths of this alien being hiding inside her. You wonder what might shame it.
-[X] Stunt: Empowered by the cold you stare at the Maeve popsicle. Not to look at her, but past her into the depths of this alien being hiding inside her. You wonder what might shame it.
COMMENTARY
Molly just rolled 16 successes to terrify the retinue of a Faerie Queen.
If we weren't infamous in the Chicago supernatural scene before now? We sure as hell will be now.
I think Mab is being a little uncharitable here; thats enough to terrify more than just Mab's clique
Loling at the pixie with the cloak of bacon
Noting how Molly's use of Ancient Sorcery requires fewer and fewer props as she gets more experienced.
I'm looking forward to the point where she's comfortable enough that she won't even bring material components, just the relevant symbology that represents them. Go full Fate series-style glowing lines for rituals.
Maeve is PISSED. I wonder if that will change if/when she actually perceives the cosmic tapeworm that is about to be pulled out of her head; if it requires that many successes for Molly to perceive it clearly, then there's a good chance Molly cant even distinguish Nemesis' urgings from her own inner voice.
It occurs to me that Essence Dissecting Stare allows us to see the chimerical aspect of reality when its active.
Supernatural creatures under a glamor, for example, are as obvious to us as any other person on the street.
I wonder how that interacts with Nemesis trying to hide inside its victim's heads.
Going to note that Demonic Primacy of Essence should applied to that Intimidation roll, because these are all CoDs who are not significant characters enough to be immune.
But that would just have made this even more obscene.
Hmm.
Looks like we need to look hard at Perception 4 being our second Attribute buy after Appearance 3.
Its turning out to be too much of a leg up to be able to look at something and bare its soul at a glance.
VOTE
[X] All Things Betray
Try to find out the Outsider's greatest shame
RATIONALE
There is very seldom a reason to pass up the opportunity to learn more about an enemy.
Nemesis was right there in the Leanansidhe's eyes in Arctis Tor when we Exalted.
And its probably possessing Thomas' girlfriend right now.
We need as much information as we can get
- Location
- Singapore
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] All Things Betray
Try to find out the Outsider's greatest shame
Try to find out the Outsider's greatest shame
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Truly, a little man of style and taste.Loling at the pixie with the cloak of bacon
COMMENTARY
Molly just rolled 16 successes to terrify the retinue of a Faerie Queen.
If we weren't infamous in the Chicago supernatural scene before now? We sure as hell will be now.
I think Mab is being a little uncharitable here; thats enough to terrify more than just Mab's clique
Loling at the pixie with the cloak of bacon
Noting how Molly's use of Ancient Sorcery requires fewer and fewer props as she gets more experienced.
I'm looking forward to the point where she's comfortable enough that she won't even bring material components, just the relevant symbology that represents them. Go full Fate series-style glowing lines for rituals.
Maeve is PISSED. I wonder if that will change if/when she actually perceives the cosmic tapeworm that is about to be pulled out of her head; if it requires that many successes for Molly to perceive it clearly, then there's a good chance Molly cant even distinguish Nemesis' urgings from her own inner voice.
It occurs to me that Essence Dissecting Stare allows us to see the chimerical aspect of reality when its active.
Supernatural creatures under a glamor, for example, are as obvious to us as any other person on the street.
I wonder how that interacts with Nemesis trying to hide inside its victim's heads.
Going to note that Demonic Primacy of Essence should applied to that Intimidation roll, because these are all CoDs who are not significant characters enough to be immune.
But that would just have made this even more obscene.
Hmm.
Looks like we need to look hard at Perception 4 being our second Attribute buy after Appearance 3.
Its turning out to be too much of a leg up to be able to look at something and bare its soul at a glance.
VOTE
[X] All Things Betray
Try to find out the Outsider's greatest shame
RATIONALE
There is very seldom a reason to pass up the opportunity to learn more about an enemy.
Nemesis was right there in the Leanansidhe's eyes in Arctis Tor when we Exalted.
And its probably possessing Thomas' girlfriend right now.
We need as much information as we can get
- Mab is indeed being uncharitable to Maeve's court, that is pretty normal for her
- This is with DPE, the base dificulty was pretty damn high because you were obviously a flunky... until you were suddenly not
It's Winter, it's Maeve's party. I give it a 50% chance of being long pork.Loling at the pixie with the cloak of bacon
Also, cheese time: if Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism is selective, and Denarians have subsouls, we could, in principle, whittle a denarian down bit by bit. Exorcise their subsouls from the coin one by one, and MiM them. At some point we would probably accumulate enough damage to the whole denarian that they'll experience fetich death equivalent (because no, angels are not Primordials, I refuse that notion).
We should stunt, but if we want both dice out of it I think we need some more spice.
[X] All Things Betray
-[X] [Stunt] As the eyes of her soul flare open a pang of want traces across her mind; a new-familiar sensation caught between hunger and curiosity.
—[X] What might even something like this hesitate over?
—[X] Almost despite herself the pupil's of Molly's unseen eyes unhinge like the jaws of a snake - tasting the shadows for the flavors of shame and regret.
[X] All Things Betray
-[X] [Stunt] As the eyes of her soul flare open a pang of want traces across her mind; a new-familiar sensation caught between hunger and curiosity.
—[X] What might even something like this hesitate over?
—[X] Almost despite herself the pupil's of Molly's unseen eyes unhinge like the jaws of a snake - tasting the shadows for the flavors of shame and regret.
Hopefully it'll be weakened from being forced out by Ancient Sorcery, on top of being a stealth fragment itself. It has to be small enough to slip in undetected, so it's unlikely that we're facing a full(er) instance like Dresden did.
Wrong mythology; not everything here is from Exalted.
If you've looked at The Book of Madness from Mage The Ascension, Nemesis and its siblings map very closely to Nephandi/Nephandic spirits. Not Yozi or Deathlords.
Besides, I suspect Molly would have already recognized a Third Circle.
Never taunt something you cant prevent from fleeing.
In fact its generally preferable to avoid taunting outside of situations where you either control the scene, or are desperate to distract someone.
And in this case, taunting it also involves telling it that we can see it.
Which is free information.
If we dont talk, it might still have to consider the possibility that someone else gave us information.
If it talks first, then we can freely interact.
For example, we can force it to identify itself by the name that it uses by asking it what its name is three times.
But right now, I dont see any margin in confirming to it that we can see it.
It IS self-imposed; the White God's faction is self-evidently more powerful than Hell's.
Even if you aren't counting the White God himself, In Small Favor Mab named four archangels in the White God's faction to Hell's one, and Im not sure that they only have 4.
An actual conflict goes one way, and by Christian myth Michael already beat Lucifer like a drum once before.
They generally appear to act to balance the direct action of Hell's angels.
Even in Small Favor, the Denarians used that Archangel-powered containment circle first on Marcone before Uriel's response came as empowering Dresden at the aquarium.
- Mab is indeed being uncharitable to Maeve's court, that is pretty normal for her
- This is with DPE, the base dificulty was pretty damn high because you were obviously a flunky... until you were suddenly not
I wonder if Molly will see parallels in her relationship with her mother.
And how it will affect her.
You cannot really parse out souls like that without knowing their names and nature, you would have to dissect their souls... or you would have to find the kind of books that daemonologists would sell their souls a thousand times over to possess.
Essence dissection stare + Hellscry Chakra + Excellency + DC adjusters? I mean, once we start rolling 20+ successes we should be able to perceive something? We do know that their subsouls can exist as separate entities after all.
I doubt it if it was a third circle of a Neverborn who was generated after her exaltation was sealed away.
Doubt it.
Not because of morality, but because of practicality.
Besides, pixie. Think something the size of your palm.
For one thing its not proven that Denarians have independent subsouls. Or Primordial physiology at all.
And for the other, we dont know what the names or identities of such subsouls would be.
That kind of soul surgery would probably require True Name equivalents, and would run into any personal defenses the entity has.
And no, I wouldn't want to fuck around with Fallen without knowing a LOT more than we currently do.
Primordials are not the only things that refuse to die when killed.
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Her Exaltation would find it familiar at a minimum, the same way an old man might be familiar to someone who knew him as a young buck.
This doesnt appear to feel that way.
So Im betting Nephandus.
Nothing from the Exalted cosmology, but rather from outside it. Neverborn already map to the Black Court of vampires.
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This is the kind of thing where you would have to be an Elder Exalt to spot it with charms alone. Sorcery now if you had a sorcerous spell that allows you to parse out the souls of Great Beings that might allow you eventually turn Exorcism into Summoning, allowing you to rip subsouls out.
Lash is a subsoul of Lasciel, so yeah, they have subsouls.
Denarian coins have Fallen bound into them, including all of the Fallen's subsouls. The subsouls van be separated and put into human hosts. That's what we know to be true in this quest. Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism excuses any supernatural entity from a physical object. A Fallen's subsoul is a supernatural entity.
Basically, if we can excise Lash from Dresden, we should be able to remove her (or any of her sisters) from the coin too, in principle.
Thanks for the information, I'll have to look through our available charms and Sorcery to see if we have anything appropriate.
... Would Silence of Inverted Spires allow us to mindread denarian coins?
That does not seem to have anything to do with mindreading. It seems to be a stealth charm
Silence of the Inverted Spires (••)
Beyond and above the howling winds and screaming
sinners of the Hell of Being Skinned Alive, there is
cold void and pristine silence. Exercising deliberation,
the Infernal chooses to embrace these things.
System: Spend 1 Essence. From that point on, the
Infernal makes no sound when she moves, nor strikes,
nor kills. Those who scream when she strikes them
down do so in silence, as do those who would cry out in
warning. In general, she can mute any sound within 10
yards, so long as she wishes for it not to be. This Charm
ends when the Infernal speaks louder than a whisper.
Can doesn't mean intended though. SCE is supposed to undo unnatural joinings, but as far as the primordials are concerned something like this would be like kicking out people's kidneys.
Taking them apart is probably possible, though fraught with the risk of making horrific Angel-Neverborn or something, but Ancient Sorcery 'only' does it's specific thing infallibly, not necessarily anything logically similar to it.
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Think he means this one:
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To call a subsoul you would need Summoning, you do not have summoning right now and you cannot directly buy it, only binding and exorcism. Molly has the basic skills to try to bash new Ancient Sorcery together, though you should probably buy more souls and/or get your hells before you try that.
That will work on anything with a mind, including Denarians in that.