Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Like I said, its ancient sorcery. Stolen from the Primordials.
By design its supposed to be a flexible tool in the skillset, where you are working in Reality's source code, instead of just hitting shortcut buttons.

It makes sense that it would be a targetable effect; if you want it to remove everything on a given victim, or just one of several effects, its should be the choice of the sorcerer.

EDIT
To expand on this, if you're confident that you can see/discriminate through all of the effects the person is under, you pick and choose what you target.

But if your Perception + Occult sucks, or you're not sure if you're missing something, you might just remove everything instead, just to be safe.
It's a hugely powerful effect, taken from the toolkit of Primordials.

It would be thematically fitting if it just purged everything in one blow.
The Primordials were never subtle, nor did they care to avoid damaging single humans.

When you are writing "delete influence" in the reality-sourcecode for a person, it stands to reason that it errs more on the side of making the effect absolute and comprehensive than making it precise and avoiding collateral.
 
It has to have "purge all" setting too, however. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to use it to remove effects of unknown nature.
Oh sure.
Thats part of its being configurable.
It's a hugely powerful effect, taken from the toolkit of Primordials.

It would be thematically fitting if it just purged everything in one blow.
The Primordials were never subtle, nor did they care to avoid damaging single humans.

When you are writing "delete influence" in the reality-sourcecode for a person, it stands to reason that it errs more on the side of making the effect absolute and comprehensive than making it precise and avoiding collateral.
This I do not agree with.
The point of fiddling with the assembly code of something is its configurability.
And frankly, people overstate the Primordial incapability for subtlety.

They were always capable of subtlety and precision, and their tools would necessarily be capable of doing so as well; the very existence of Creation demonstrates this, as does the Solars repeatedly summoning some of their component souls to help with precision work.

We are talking about the people who fabricated Creation, in part with tools like Ancient Sorcery.
They had to be both precise and powerful.
They just seldom saw the need for it when dealing with mortals.
 
Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jun 4, 2023 at 5:53 AM, finished with 130 posts and 36 votes.

  • [X] Bid them go
    -[X] Activate intimidation excellency for the winter fey flex
    -[X] Activate ATB and HC with essence, try to detect nemesis
    -[X] Activate TTC and IPM with willpower
    -[X] Spend willpower to ensure ritual success.
    -[X] [Stunt] Drawing herself up, the glamor seems to sublimate from Molly like ice in a pan.
    —[X] Surrounded by Winter's monsters and caught between two of its Queens, something boils out from behind her eyes. Invisible and intangible, but as demanding as the kiss of a branding iron on bare skin for those without the relevance to warrant acknowledgment.
    —[X] Reaching out her hand, Molly grasped an implement from thin air as if it was always there. Unlike like so many others before it, this was no mechanical monstrosity - a special difference shown even by the hells to its purpose.
    —-[X] At exactly five and one half feet long, it stood an exactly straight bar of steel. Every angle unnaturally perfect from the flattened cap to exactingly sharpened tip. The first tool, and first division of natural chaos into shaped order
    —[X] Held just above the floor as she turned, it seemed to almost drag the shadows inwards without touching them, whispering secrets at her feet as they come.
    —[X] With a smooth calm that seemed cling like smoke Molly spoke. " I think it would be preferable to clear the room".
    [X] Bid them go
    [X] Let them stay
    [X] Let them stay
    -[X] Use WP to guarantee success on the exorcism
    -[X] Activate ATB with essence
    -[X] Reactivate Hellskry Chakra to see if we notice Nemesis with it
    [X] Let them stay
    -[X] On the condition that all save Mab herself make an oath never to speak or otherwise spread knowledge of what they see you do here.
    -[X] Use WP to guarantee success on the exorcism
    -[X] Reactivate Hellskry Chakra to see if we notice Nemesis with it
    [X] Let them stay
    -[X] Use WP to guarantee success on the exorcism
    -[X] Reactivate Hellskry Chakra to see if we notice Nemesis with it
    -[X] Keep our spirit killer (Murder is Meat) a secret. Aka don't use it.
    [X] Let them stay
    -[X] Reactivate Hellskry Chakra to see if we notice Nemesis with it
 
Arc 7 Post 24: In a Frozen Prism
In a Frozen Prism

31th of October 2006 A.D.

Useful as it might be to be known, to be feared the last thing you want out of tonight is to win the enmity of the real Maeve which dealing with her... problem in front of her crew might well get you. On top of that you do not want say the pixie over there with a cloak made out of bacon to be able to recount how this looks like to any interested parties. His choice of wardrobe does not engender confidence.

Surrounded by Winter's monsters and caught between two of its Queens, something boils out from behind your eyes, material and spiritual Invisible and intangible, but as demanding as the kiss of a branding iron on bare skin for those without the relevance to warrant acknowledgment.

Lost 3 Essence and 2 Willpower -> now at 7/12 Essence and 7/9 Willpower

Thus you reach out a hand for the tools you know will be there. Unlike like so many others before it, this was no mechanical monstrosity, even hell, even the Wicked City can appreciate the virtue of simplicity in this. At exactly five and one half feet long, stands an exactly straight bar of steel. Every angle unnaturally perfect from the flattened cap to exactingly sharpened tip. The first tool, and first division of natural chaos into shaped order Held just above the floor as she turned, it seemed to almost drag the shadows inwards without touching them, whispering secrets at your feet.

Thus you speak "Best to clear the room".

Rather than go they all freeze in place. Where before there had been chatter, necks craned at unnatural angles, the flash of rimefrost mirrors even to spy the spectacle ' round corners now there are only eyes wide in dread, breath caught in scores of throats.

"Leave!" the Queen of Air and Darkness bids, her voice like a crack of thunder in still air... and still about a third of them don't move. "Leave this place and leave at once!" she repeats, the third time driving ever the most awestruck to sudden frenzied action fast as their hooves, wings and in one case really overpriced ugly sneakers can take them.

"Oops, didn't mean to do that," you ver carefully apologize without apologizing so as not to add a second faux pas to the first as you continue to take out the rest of the stuff from your purse.

"They were too lightly cowed," she waves the matter off with a sigh. "Those here are among the least disciplined of all Winter regardless."

"Mhmm," you hum considering your options. There's a jar of lake water, a Bunsen Burner, a little tube of pressurized air made so that it releases its contents over an hour, a lichen covered rock in place of a tree, a collapsible set of sun-moon-stars symbols that one can hang in a hurry and a box of ethically sourced grave dirt, you had asked permission from the ghost in question. Gonna need a refill after this one. To banish something this nasty the Grave has to be in ascendant.

As you pour out the grave dirt around he base of the ice prison, a circle inside a circle you pass Mab the celestial models without even thinking about it. "Just hang this above her, Sun opposite Moon, precise angles to not matter, they move around."

As it turns out Mab can fly when she wants to, also... she kind of looks like Mary Poppins when she does that in a dress.

Not that you are paying much attention to her after the initial surprise. Instead you are looking into the ice pillar more intensely than you'd ever looked at anything in your life, the eyes of your soul widening together with those of your body. Power, you see spilling out into the air and twisting though the ice, rage and spite enough to drown a dragon in poison, but as far as your gaze can tell there is nothing inside Maeve beside Maeve.

Lost 1 Willpower -> Now at 6/9 Willpower

No, wait there is something there, like an after image, every thought, every feeling, like a doubling in a fun house mirror. Suddenly you are reminded of being six or seven maybe visiting some kind of cave with your dad and being disappointed there was no echo when you called out. Dad had gotten down closer to your level so you would not have to crane your had and he'd said: 'There's always an echo Molly, it's just in little caves like this it comes back too quick and your ear just hears both as a single sound.' As soon as you make the connection what had been a impression at the edge of perception becomes clear as the the world under sun at its zenith.

What do you do?

[] Singsong: "I see you, hiding in the silence between her thoughts."
Try to unnerve He Who Walks Beside (Charisma+Intimidation; Excellency still in play)

[] All Things Betray
Try to find out the Outsider's greatest shame

[] Keep the secret close, say nothing until it is banished
No need to paint more of a target in your face

[] Write in

OOC: With your total of -4 to all perception rolls from ATB and BSM you took what would have been DC 9 down to 5. Even with that it would have taken 5 successes to tell there was anything there, 10 successes to where Molly would be sure she was not imagining things because she knew it was there and 15 to the point where you could trigger a charm on it. Guessed what you rolled.
 
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Oh my goodness, that's a vulnerability.

The first is a sucker punch, but it's not helpful here. But the second...

We don't have to worry about getting mind-blasted from that, do we?

Also, lol, it looks like Mab likes the cut of Molly's jib.
 
[] Singsong: "I see you, hiding in the silence between her thoughts."
Try to unnerve He Who Walks Beside (Charisma+Intimidation; Excellency still in play)

[] All Things Betray
Try to find out the Outsider's greatest shame

Either of the two should work. What do you guys think is better? I'm leaning on the second but I'm open to opinions.
 
Oh my goodness, that's a vulnerability.

The first is a sucker punch, but it's not helpful here. But the second...

We don't have to worry about getting mind-blasted from that, do we?

Also, lol, it looks like Mab likes the cut of Molly's jib.

IPP is basically designed to see things man was not meant to see and keep chugging, it is possible you might not make sense of what you see or that it is painful to witness in some personal way like with Isabela, but nothing that would damage Molly's sanity.
 
[X] All Things Betray

Unnerving it won't actually do much more than pissing it off, but figuring out what its secret shame is... That's an actionable secret potentially, assuming it doesn't somehow auto-encrypt itself beyond our ability to comprehend.

We may not necessarily use it, but we would know it
 
Rather than go they all freeze in place. Where before there had been chatter, necks craned at unnatural angles, the flash of rimefrost mirrors even to spy the spectacle ' round corners now there are only eyes wide in dread, breath caught in scores of throats.

"Leave!" the Queen of Air and Darkness bids, her voice like a crack of thunder in still air... and still about a third of them don't move. "Leave this place and leave at once!" she repeats, the third time driving ever the most awestruck to sudden frenzied action fast as their hooves, wings and in one case really overpriced ugly sneakers can take them.

"Oops, didn't mean to do that," you ver carefully apologize without apologizing so as not to add a second faux pas to the first you start to take out the rest of the stuff from your purse.
Well that went slightly more effectively than anticipated, but we did make our impression at least. Needing three direct orders from Mab to move certainly says something about how hard they took that.

I'm tempted by the secrets, but we've got to use five essence for the exorcism and we're already at seven. I'd like to have more than a single mote left when we reach the culmination.
 
I'm leaning towards finding out its shame, though I'd feel a lot better about voting for such if there were some arguments against it I could consider before slamming the vote button.

Sorry if this has been covered already @DragonParadox, but does Molly think there is any chance that she won't be on Nemesis' shitlist/observed if she just carries out the basic exorcism/third option?

I'm asking because if Nemisis is going to know it is Molly that kicked it out of Maeve, then I'm in an 'in for a penny' sort of mood. Especially if the information gained turns out to be something we can immediately and directly share with Mab.

EDit: We're a max buffs here, yeah? Did we ever get round to making something portable that constrains Molly like handcuffs or legcuffs?
Well that went slightly more effectively than anticipated, but we did make our impression at least. Needing three direct orders from Mab to move certainly says something about how hard they took that.
Mab, surprised at the words coming out of her mouth : "Molly, while that was impressive, it can be useful to dial down the intensity on occasion."
 
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OOC: With your total of -4 to all perception rolls from ATB and BSM you took what would have been DC 9 down to 5. Even with that it would have taken 5 successes to tell there was anything there, 10 successes to where Molly would be sure she was not imagining things because she knew it was there and 15 to the point where you could trigger a charm on it. Guessed what you rolled.
Now that we know what it looks like inside its hosts, will the DC be lowered the next time we scan for it?
 
I'm leaning towards finding out its shame, though I'd feel a lot better about voting for such if there were some arguments against it I could consider before slamming the vote button.

Sorry if this has been covered already @DragonParadox, but does Molly think there is any chance that she won't be on Nemesis' shitlist/observed if she just carries out the basic exorcism/third option?

Molly does not really know how Outsiders think, but she assumes it will not take the eviction well. That said there are degrees of enmity, especially for this thing since it is the Enemy of All, it has to prioritize.
 
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