Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Wait, something just occurred to me:
So it was that she who was Lady of Winter, Morgana, lover of Merlin
WInter Lady is always a virgin (and always horny, if I read wikipedia right). It's the whole maiden part of the maiden-mother-crone trifecta. So, how did this work? Or are we going for a "technically still a virgin" thing here? I remind people that Merlin at least according to some myths was sired by an incubus, and this probably means that he wasn't very chastite (either because of his parentage, or because his behavior resulted in the myth).
 
Wait, something just occurred to me:

WInter Lady is always a virgin (and always horny, if I read wikipedia right). It's the whole maiden part of the maiden-mother-crone trifecta. So, how did this work? Or are we going for a "technically still a virgin" thing here? I remind people that Merlin at least according to some myths was sired by an incubus, and this probably means that he wasn't very chastite (either because of his parentage, or because his behavior resulted in the myth).

We are going with 'wizards are very creative when they have to be and this was a damn good wizard', at least that is what Molly thinks is the case. You could ask Bob for details if you like. Hell you could spend a question on it.
 
Wait, something just occurred to me:

WInter Lady is always a virgin (and always horny, if I read wikipedia right). It's the whole maiden part of the maiden-mother-crone trifecta. So, how did this work? Or are we going for a "technically still a virgin" thing here? I remind people that Merlin at least according to some myths was sired by an incubus, and this probably means that he wasn't very chastite (either because of his parentage, or because his behavior resulted in the myth).
Well technically it's the mantle that has to be a virgin not the holder of the mantle.
 
[X] Yog

I think its hilarious that listening to Bob ramble is evidently borderline painful for Harry but... listening to that? I could listen to that all fucking day. You could have a fanfic of nothing but Bob expound on random topics, pure prose, and I would wait on every word.

We. Need. More. Bob.
 
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Also, it occurs to me that this means that Mab might be however many times removed blood relative of Harry's, if Margaret LeFay's family name means anything.
I could also see an argument for boosting manipulation, since that would likely feed into deception attempts regardless of the ability used. A bit pricy, but 12 exp for something we could use with both empathy and subterfuge is cheaper than paying 14 for an additional dot in each.

If our exp is in the low 20s then getting manipulation and subterfuge 4 could get us more bang for our buck.
Hmm, yeah, that might be better.
 
[X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
-[X] [Stunt] Reflexively Molly recoils from the thought of deliberate ignorance like she'd touched a hot stove. On her forehead a brazen sun gleams, and for a moment her shadow seems crowned by slitted eyes; a trick of the light as it shines through her hair.
—[X] Taking a breath, the light disappears as Molly pauses to think.
—[X] "You're not wrong to say that knowledge can be dangerous, but I think I'm well past the point where ignorance will help me much." She says with a serious expression. "What I need is to know, so that I can judge with certainty and act with understanding."

Honestly, I as the player want to know.
 
I don't think we're Leveling until after the Mab Convo am I mistaken?
We get the XP spend at the end of the Arc, and we're already 59 posts in, so even if next one was the spending post, it would tie with Arc 2 for the longest Arc of the quest so far. And everyone including the QM thought that that Arc was too long. I'm pretty sure we're getting the XP spend right before the conversation, since it would otherwise be too long.

... Aaand ninja'd by the QM. Okay.
 
Looks like we are going for this.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on May 7, 2023 at 2:16 AM, finished with 51 posts and 24 votes.

  • [X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
    -[X] [Stunt] Reflexively Molly recoils from the thought of deliberate ignorance like she'd touched a hot stove. On her forehead a brazen sun gleams, and for a moment her shadow seems crowned by slitted eyes; a trick of the light as it shines through her hair.
    —[X] Taking a breath, the light disappears as Molly pauses to think.
    —[X] "You're not wrong to say that knowledge can be dangerous, but I think I'm well past the point where ignorance will help me much." She says with a serious expression. "What I need is to know, so that I can judge with certainty and act with understanding."
    [x] Plan: Leave it be Leave it up to Bob. (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
    -[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
    -[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
    [x] Leave it be (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
    [X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
 
Now I can't help but imagine the scenario where we get Essence 3, go for the kingdom charm, and are surprised by it during the conversation....
... Ok, yeah. Our world-body coalescing from raw potential in front of Mab would be funny enough to motivate me to go for it, despite everything else. It would probably break through even her poker face.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on May 7, 2023 at 2:16 AM, finished with 51 posts and 24 votes.

  • [X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
    -[X] [Stunt] Reflexively Molly recoils from the thought of deliberate ignorance like she'd touched a hot stove. On her forehead a brazen sun gleams, and for a moment her shadow seems crowned by slitted eyes; a trick of the light as it shines through her hair.
    —[X] Taking a breath, the light disappears as Molly pauses to think.
    —[X] "You're not wrong to say that knowledge can be dangerous, but I think I'm well past the point where ignorance will help me much." She says with a serious expression. "What I need is to know, so that I can judge with certainty and act with understanding."
    [x] Plan: Leave it be Leave it up to Bob. (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
    -[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
    -[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
    [x] Leave it be (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
    [X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
 
Arc 6 Post 60: What Kindles in Frozen Heart
What Kindles in Frozen Heart

27th of October 2006 A.D.

Reflexively you recoil at the suggestion that you should accept ignorance as though you had just touched a hot stove as the brazen sun between your brows gleams. Out of the corner of your eye you see the shadow on the wall of the laboratory seems now crowned by slitted eyes; a trick of the light shining through your hair. "You're not wrong to say that knowledge can be dangerous, but I think I'm well past the point where ignorance will help me much." These words you say, deliberately, carefully. "What I need is to know, so that I can judge with certainty and act with understanding."

"Molly, I would not want to know this sh... stuff. Mab is utterly ruthless. If she thinks you might embarrass her or worse that you are a threat she will come after you in ways no one will see coming."

Aw, it's cute how he doesn't want to swear but he is also lying, you know with utter certainty. If you were not here he would absolutely ask Bob to finish the story.

"I could say that I've seen Arctis Tor, I've seen what she made of her Knight just how ruthless she is. I could remind you that I am very good at seeing things, coming and otherwise, but that is not really what any of this comes down to. What matters now is what mattered when you let me through that trap door today..." You wave at it. "Do you trust me?" As he opens his mouth to answer you raise a hand, you are not done yet. "I won't blame you is the answer is 'no' and I won't think any less of you, that is your prerogative and I have been stomping around your life like a glowing green Godzilla for the past few months."

He doesn't answer for a long time, hundred and three heartbeats to be exact, leaving you wondering if he's thinking about the polite way to say 'no'. Finally he sighs and looks you in the eyes, what he sees you don't know, but he says the words you have been hoping for: "I trust you."

"Oh, come on! Kiss already!" Bob heckles

"S...stop that," you stutter, heat rushing into you cheeks for the first time in weeks. You're going to get him for that.

To add insult to injury Harry keeps his cool fine. "That is enough from the peanut gallery. Finish the story."

"Mother and maiden died at the Hands... er tentacles... multi-dimensional limbs of the Outsiders," Bob collects himself, the moment's levity at your expense fading from his voice at the gravity of what he recounts. "Only the Lady's Mantle escaped and it found Morgana for she was the most skillful in sorcery and boldest in war but uneasy did it rest upon her shoulders for though she had never known a man in the strictly physical sense Merlin her lover was sired by an incubus and possessed the power to join with her in soul and in mind." He stops for a moment. "One strange turn begat another for from that joining Morgana-not-yet-Mab fell heavy with child, children in fact twins. One is Meave, now Winter Lady and one is Sarissa whom I last knew as a cup bearer many centuries ago."

Sneaking a look at him its clear that Harry is flummoxed, not that you look much different in all honesty. It feels like the tail end of a Dan Brown novel, only actually real and terrifying to know, but Bob is not done.

"Many of the Sidhe lords and ladies know about the blood bond, though not the name of their sire as for decades after taking up the Mantle of Queen Mab would not speak of where the Lady's Mantle had gone until one dark Samhain they arrived at court, assumed to have been the daughters of some mortal of little note. Some whispered that Mab had kept the Mantle of the Lady frozen in place until she could offer it to her daughter, others that she had killed the Lady so that her daughter might inherit, but the wise and the learned dismissed such talk. All know the heart of winter is frozen and uncaring."

A skull cannot smile, but as the light's of Bob's eyes grow brighter and the runes upon his vessel sharper you get a distinct sense of smug satisfaction. "The wise and the learned were wrong. When Morgana stood at the foot of the Stone Table the Mantle of Queen in her hands, not yet upon her shoulders she would not surrender her love for her daughters. As one molding hot iron with her bare hands Morgana-Who-Became-Mab changed the Mantle of Winter ever so slightly so that her love of Meave and Sarissa might be preserved."

"You... er... weren't kidding about this being big," you finally manage to choke out.

The spirit's voice falls into a kind of dreamy whisper "Weakness, hurt them and you hurt Mab, leverage, befriend them and her wrath will be turned aside. Good luck."

"A hundred times apologies Dark Eternal Majesty, I have misjudged this spirit before and thought him soft," Usum hisses in your mind's ear. "He will be a worthy servant when you take the wizard as your consort."

This time at least you manage to keep your expression under control. Quickly you say your goodbyes to Harry and head off, though you do not go home at once, letting Black Rider drive you in loops as you consider what you had just learned. At some point you must have dozen off for a moment, dreams lengthening like shadows, leaping like flame.



Arc Six Complete

Triumphs
  1. Persuading Charity about the merits of Alchemical Sleep Antidotes 1 XP
  2. Successfully channeled Isabela's talents to a cause of your choosing 1 XP
  3. Investigation of the murders in Chinatown 1XP
  4. Befriended Bùshì Tùzǐ 1 XP
  5. Tea at the Green Tortoise (Successful diplomacy) 1 XP
  6. Figured out the Akuma's Plan and warped the ritual against itself 2 XP
  7. A good impression on Monoc securities over the phone 1 XP
  8. Got Murphy to go along with all the strange and deadly allies you gathered (and their mortars) 1 XP
  9. Dealing with Lady Eiko (Insight/Diplomacy/Mock battle) 3 XP
  10. Terrified the Akuma at the hotel into bending utterly to your will 1 XP
  11. Battle against the Akuma (Base/ All Prisoners Rescued/Lydia Tore open the Gate/Greater Akuma True Killed in single combat) 5 XP
  12. Jade Dogs brought closer together by tragedy not divided thanks to Molly's leadership 1 XP
  13. Safely delivered minor akuma to the Library of Congress, obtaining trust and information 1 XP
  14. Connected with Marcy, got her to open up to Father Forthil 1 XP
  15. Discovered the secret of Olivia's heritage and the broader origin of many mortal talents 1 XP
  16. Helped Maria reveal magic to her fiancee 1 XP
  17. Lydia got emancipated 1 XP
  18. The Amazing Margret Carver does Carrier Day 1 XP
  19. Last Station Improved beyond expectation 1 XP
  20. Getting through to Murphy 1 XP
  21. Seeing through Mac's Disguise 3 XP
  22. Read and gained insight into the Accords 1 XP
  23. Persuading Harry you can hear the last secret 1 XP

Total XP: 1 (Unspent) + 31 (Earned this Arc) -10 (Ancient Sorcery Spell learned) = 22

How do you spent your Essence?

Special
[] Alchemy: The Art of transmutation, not merely of matter, but mind and spirit. To all you have learned from Bob, all you have read in Harry's books the insights of an elder age are added, as steel is alloyed from charcoal and iron (Cost 3XP/Dot)

Constructive Convergence of Principles costs -2XP due to the feat of God-crafting

[] New Ability 3xp


[] Ancient sorcery spell 10xp (Spent for the Arc)

[] Attribute current rating *4xp

[] Ability current rating *2xp

[] Caste Ability current rating *1xp

[] Caste or Favored Charm Charm rating *3xp

[] Other Charm Charm rating *4xp

[] Willpower current rating

[] First dot of a Sorcerer Path 4xp

[] Follow-up dots in a Sorcerer Path current rating *3xp

[]Merit current rating *4xp

[] Buy down Touch of Frost
-[] 2 XP to remove

[] Buy down Nightmares (4 XP)

[] Write in


OOC: You guys still have a bit of time to poke Meave or Sarissa and try to use the secret you have just gained before you talk to Mab if you want.
 
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