Wasn't Morgana a one of Arthur's guides to Avalon after his last battle?
Also, does that mean Titania is Elaine or Morgause?
Also, does that mean Titania is Elaine or Morgause?
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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
- One should not call the Queen of Air and Darkness where there is an open window to the night wind, but down there in a basement in the middle of the day she would practically have to walk behind you to hear what you are saying... unless you can her three times with intent. Then it's a summoning and will work.
- Yes, they are
So, to make it clear - this was deliberate in-story use of her name by Bob, but the probably of her actually hearing it is very minor, unless she's very actively spying on us. Which she might be, if she knows what's good for her.
[X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
-[X] [Stunt] Reflexively Molly recoils from the thought of deliberate ignorance like she'd touched a hot stove. On her forehead a brazen sun gleams, and for a moment her shadow seems crowned by slitted eyes; a trick of the light as it shines through her hair.
—[X] Taking a breath, the light disappears as Molly pauses to think.
—[X] "You're not wrong to say that knowledge can be dangerous, but I think I'm well past the point where ignorance will help me much." She says with a serious expression. "What I need is to know, so that I can judge with certainty and act with understanding."
If she is deliberately spying on you saying her name would make little difference,
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
I'm backing Beepsmile's plan for the moment.
[x] Plan:Leave it be Leave it up to Bob. (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
-[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
-[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
[x] Plan:
-[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
-[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
[X] Yog
As much as it is now in Molly's nature to seek every scrap of knowledge that she can it is seriously worth considering listening and not knowing, this is definitely a world where knowing something can be fatal.
And Mab is definitely clever enough to be able to suss out what someone knows based on how they interact with her, if Molly at all falters Mab could absolutely figure out that Bob talked and that could put both Bob and Harry in serious danger.
Think carefully about whether the risk is worth it, does Molly NEED to know this given how much incredible information she's already acquired?
Also I must say Bob is doing gangbuster work showing why he's so very valuable, Harry is lucky Molly is his friend and won't try to take Bob from him.
And Mab is definitely clever enough to be able to suss out what someone knows based on how they interact with her, if Molly at all falters Mab could absolutely figure out that Bob talked and that could put both Bob and Harry in serious danger.
Think carefully about whether the risk is worth it, does Molly NEED to know this given how much incredible information she's already acquired?
Also I must say Bob is doing gangbuster work showing why he's so very valuable, Harry is lucky Molly is his friend and won't try to take Bob from him.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
[X] Insist, the fact that she wants it held secret makes it all the more valuable
I'm kind of inclined to go for it anyway, because it's a character consequence of her urge.
I also think it's worth noting that knowledge that it's dangerous to know comes in two categories; things it's inherently dangerous to know for Cthulhu reasons, and things it's dangerous for others to know you know about.
This is more the latter than the former, and Mab can't exactly read our mind easily. We need to pump up the social defenses to avoid being suspicious looking, but that's true in any case*.
Frankly this is a problem we need to be good at handling in general, because secret knowledge is a huge part of Molly's character concept and general build. If we can't meet dangerous people while Molly has their secrets rattling around her head then we're going to have long term issue.
* A good poker face should probably be the focus of our upcoming buy point, just as an aside.
Depends: Which of the several versions of the Arthurian tales do you want to use? Because there's the ones without the grail or Lancelot or Merlin (first ones), the ones where Lancelot's adultery with Guenievre was the best thing ever because they love each other, the ones where it is the worst thing ever because Adultery has gone out of style, the ones... there are lots of version of the Arthur's tale.
Looking it over, it's sort of ridiculous that infernals of all people have so few charms for making lying easier.
Discounting excellency boosted socials and our general difficulty reducers, WtD is the only one I see that directly boosts manipulation.
MwStW sort of fills a similar role, but it only works to change perceived value and not defend against someone playing social perception games on you directly.
Discounting excellency boosted socials and our general difficulty reducers, WtD is the only one I see that directly boosts manipulation.
MwStW sort of fills a similar role, but it only works to change perceived value and not defend against someone playing social perception games on you directly.
[x] Plan: Leave it be Leave it up to Bob. (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
-[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
-[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
-[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
-[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
Aren't there a bunch of Ebon Dragon charms for lying? I mean, many would be a terrible idea to take, but they do exist.
Anyway,
[X] BronzeTongue
I meant in the ExWoD set.
Kakuri does have social charms, but they're mostly about learning things or changing how target interacts with something.
Witness to Darkness is the only manipulation specific boost charm in that list.
That would be Subterfuge, right? Hmm... In principle, we might be able to afford maxing Empathy and Subterfuge both. No charms then, but I think we can live with that in this instance.
Pretty sure the meeting is before next do spend. And even then going up alchemy, and taking a 2 dot charisma booster potion would be just as good, if not better.
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[X] BronzeTongue
I could also see an argument for boosting manipulation, since that would likely feed into deception attempts regardless of the ability used. A bit pricy, but 12 exp for something we could use with both empathy and subterfuge is cheaper than paying 14 for an additional dot in each.
If our exp is in the low 20s then getting manipulation and subterfuge 4 could get us more bang for our buck.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I see what you did there.
As for the vote.. We need to know everything there is to know before going into that meeting. If us having that knowledge bothers Mab then too fucking bad.
[X] BronzeTongue
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[x] Plan: Leave it be Leave it up to Bob. (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
-[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
-[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
-[X] Stunt: You want to know. Awareness of that want flashes through your mind even as you start to think of an argument to why you should be told, how this information might be useful but then you realise what's behind this desire: Worr- fear. Fear that you might misstep with Mab and those you care for suffer as a result. And simple curiosity too. Looking at Bob you nod.
-[X] "Ok. I can lie well - at need - but something like this feels like it could change how I talk to her. And it's far from impossible that she might notice that. And in that case; Bob, do you think this is something that could meaningfully help me avoid more traps or pitfalls that might arise in my conversation with her?"
[x] Leave it be (Willpower Roll Required; if failed Insist will be chosen)
