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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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[X] Try to intimidate the demon of Kakuri Wan out of the girl
-[X] Use your crown to find out what the demon's greatest fear is, and leverage it.
-[X] I see you are afraid of X. That is very reasonable. That will change. I am what you should be most afraid of. Because if you do not leave this girl unharmed, the exorcism will not end here. Because I will return to the night realm. And I will find you there, and I will kill you. Slowly. I will shred the tattered remains of what you call a soul into oblivion in a way that would make even the lords of the thousand hells flinch.

probably don't go with this, but The possibility amused me -w-
 
[X] Observe the exorcism

This is going to be horrifically mentally scarring enough already, we don't need to add to it by going full Demon Lord. While the demon releasing the kid would result in less spiritual damage, being on the receiving end of infernal intimidation would probably have additional mental effects.
 
This might be the RPGer in me, but we invested in being super scary to the things that go bump in the night. So we should use that ability, right?!

Semi-related: what is the girl's experience of being possessed feel like? Is she a helpless passenger? Or is she in a dream like state? Completely unaware?
 
[X] Try to intimidate the demon of Kakuri Wan out of the girl
-[x] Stunt: The last demon of Kakuri I faced was the "The will of Kakuri" He is dead forever more. Unless you with to see the your final night leave now.
 
Madsamurai said:
This might be the RPGer in me, but we invested in being super scary to the things that go bump in the night. So we should use that ability, right?!

Semi-related: what is the girl's experience of being possessed feel like? Is she a helpless passenger? Or is she in a dream like state? Completely unaware?
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It depends on the strategy, skills etc... Though in this case given that the demon refers to itself as 'us' Molly suspects she is in a state where she identifies with the demon and internalizes its reasoning and actions. This is one of the ways to get around that perky free will, convince the human that they are more than human and they instead become less.
 
[X] Try to intimidate the demon of Kakuri Wan out of the girl
-[X]Use Naked Wicked Souls first. Maybe we will find some blackmail to use.
Might as well we already have ATB up.
 
I'll just go back to the fact that the devil that possessed the girl no longer has an independent existence. The merger of bane and human to produce a fomori creates something new.

You can amputate the bane parts from the merged chimera to separate them, like you can do with a gangrenous, but the Bane can't, as I understand it, voluntarily leave, as it doesn't exist as a seperate entity anymore.
 
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Carrnage said:
Can we make the girl a CoD?
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If she isn't already then no. None of the charms for us to make CoD have been accepted by the voters.
zxzx24 said:
[X] Try to intimidate the demon of Kakuri Wan out of the girl

-[X] Use your crown to find out what the demon's greatest fear is, and leverage it.

-[X] I see you are afraid of X. That is very reasonable. That will change. I am what you should be most afraid of. Because if you do not leave this girl unharmed, the exorcism will not end here. Because I will return to the night realm. And I will find you there, and I will kill you. Slowly. I will shred the tattered remains of what you call a soul into oblivion in a way that would make even the lords of the thousand hells flinch.



probably don't go with this, but The possibility amused me -w-
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We have a charm to find out what the demon is most ashamed of which is about as good. Maybe better if we can use it as blackmail.
 
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Alratan said:
I'll just go back to the fact that the devil that possessed the girl no longer has an independent existence. The merger of bane and human to produce a fomori creates something new.

You can amputate the bane parts from the merged chimera to separate them, like you can do with a gangrenous, but the Bane can't, as I understand it, voluntarily leave, as it doesn't exist as a seperate entity anymore.
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I think you could make that case in WoD, but this is a less grim universe. The demon can leave, it just really really does not want to do so.
 
[X] Write in - Compassion
-[X] If it wouldn't hurt the exorcism, kneel down in front of the girl and hold her hand. If it would, simply kneel down and stay in line of sight. The demon is less important here than the child. Your goal, desire, and hope is to make it so that the child has less screaming nightmares than she inevitably will. Be there and willing to should some of her inevitable terror, if nothing else.
 
Artemis1992 said:
If the Denarians can't truly merge with the possessed, I don't see why lesser demons should be able to do so...
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Because they're not lesser demons.

DragonParadox said:
I think you could make that case in WoD, but this is a less grim universe. The demon can leave, it just really really does not want to do so.
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Thing is; that means that fomor/bakemono aren't really a distinct type of creature, they're just temporarily spirit ridden humans. That undermines the reason why Mercy on Servitude works.

It's not about being grim or not; it's about that a fomor isn't just a possessed person, but a new type of creature, like a much lesser type of thing like an Exalt, or a vampire, which is why Celestial Exalts can't become fomori. It's a spiritual transformation not a temporary inhabitation.

You can change that; but it fundamentally changes what a bakemono is. Changing t he back to a human should, in my mind, like a not much lesser version of changing a vampire back into a human. Yes, Exalted charms/spells and high end Magic can do so, but it's an extraordinary feat of power that demonstrates how big deal they are, not something that anyone charming enough can do.
 
Alratan said:
Because they're not lesser demons.



Thing is; that means that fomor/bakemono aren't really a distinct type of creature, they're just temporarily spirit ridden humans. That undermines the reason why Mercy on Servitude works.

It's not about being grim or not; it's about that a fomor isn't just a possessed person, but a new type of creature, like a much lesser type of thing like an Exalt, or a vampire, which is why Celestial Exalts can't become fomori. It's a spiritual transformation not a temporary inhabitation.

You can change that; but it fundamentally changes what a bakemono is. Changing t he back to a human should, in my mind, like a not much lesser version of changing a vampire back into a human. Yes, Exalted charms/spells and high end Magic can do so, but it's an extraordinary feat of power that demonstrates how big deal they are, not something that anyone charming enough can do.
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I mean the same thing could be said for the white court in lore. They too are a type of creature that is made up of a mortal/spirit symbiosis. Their Hunger is not going to rip itself free on its own but if an actual saint (of which we know exist in this universe) put their all into persuading them... well that is in theme for the feats of saints.

On the matter of charm, the only difficulty modifiers that apply to this are great holy or unholy power and knowledge. If this were not specifically a demon of Kakuri for which she has the demonic guide as well as DPE and BSM to help this would not work.
 
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