Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] [SWORD] Keep the sword only long enough to extract what useful information we can from it, then destroy it. If possible, attempt to savage and purify any materials that survive the sword's destruction.

[X] [BODY] Keep the body only long enough to extract what useful information we can from it, then destroy it.
 
If we get the right Hell we won't be a Freeholding Lord, we'll be able to make a strong case to be a full signatory.

That's if we want to be bound by their rules. If our Hell is powerful enough there may be a good reason not to.
we aren't getting our hell soon and being honest even when we get it the projection power won't be high at least until an arc after we get it. Cause no way mollys gonna project the forces of hell right after getting said hell outside of said hell.
 
[X] [SWORD] Claim it, maybe you can reforge it
[X] [BODY] Claim it, it might be a little creepy, but having eaten his soul it would be a bit silly to be squeamish about the body
 
we aren't getting our hell soon and being honest even when we get it the projection power won't be high at least until an arc after we get it. Cause no way mollys gonna project the forces of hell right after getting said hell outside of said hell.
Realistically, we might be getting it by Christmas. It would even be symbolic that our world is born on Christmas.
 
[x] [SWORD] Claim it, maybe you can reforge it
Cool

[] [SWORD] Let Harry destroy it
A waste

[] [SWORD] Gift it to Monoc for Gard's help in the fight
Only if it counts for paying back our deal.

[X] [BODY] Claim it, it might be a little creepy, but having eaten his soul it would be a bit silly to be squeamish about the body

I don't actually know any uses for the body. Zombie for Lydia?

[] [BODY] Let Harry destroy it
If there is any use them I want to use it.

Realistically, we might be getting it by Christmas. It would even be symbolic that our world is born on Christmas.

It would be even better if it was born on Halloween.
 
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I'd rather build up our faction a little before getting our hell. Become a free holding lord and recruit more in Undertown. Let this minor faction building and management act as training wheels for our future hell of millions.
 
[X] [SWORD] Keep the sword only long enough to extract what useful information we can from it, then destroy it. If possible, attempt to savage and purify any materials that survive the sword's destruction.
[X] [BODY] Keep the body only long enough to extract what useful information we can from it, then destroy it.


Using a dead body as a magical focus is one thing; making clothes or potions or whatnot out of it is another thing entirely. We're not an Abyssal, folks! We have better taste than that.
 
That's if we want to be bound by their rules. If our Hell is powerful enough there may be a good reason not to.
Not so sure about that. The Accords are essentially the international norms among pretty much every supernatural power coherent enough to speak and negotiate. It doesn't make them all trustworthy, but it does in a vast majority of cases help keep things civilized.

It signals to people that we matter, that they should probably take us seriously, and introduces a known factor to guide engagement.

There's also the difference it makes to our people while out in the world.

At the end of the day power is the cornerstone, but being part of a member state of the accords is in a lot of ways the difference between being a citizen of a recognized nation and being a stateless drifter.

We can just beat people up till they take us seriously, but that takes time and has costs beyond immediate material loss.

It's worth looking the whole thing over carefully, but it's better to think of the Accords and being international norms that actually have teeth than subordination.
I don't actually know any uses for the body. Zombie for Lydia?
crown focus for one. Also crafting material. We can probably do some alchemy with it.
Technically it's exactly what Holden's weird crafting system is supposed to run on, so if we're engaging with anything based on that it's probably worth saving it for that.
 
COMMENTARY
-Going to note that the boss akuma had to have felt Molly noshing on his shadow, but it apparently didnt change his fighting strategy at all. Looks like IC confirmation that instructions override survival instincts.
The naagloshii, for example, would have bailed, or tried to bail once it took Agg damage to the soul.


-Lydia successfully broke the Wall? Now thats worth bonus XP in its own right for her.
It was a longshot that Im happy to see worked out.
We need to get her a lot more Occult, though.


-Three akuma dead in the sniper hide that got shelled by the heavy weapons squad.
Three akuma that Molly crippled, who are currently on the floor. Two akuma and two bakemono still unaccounted for. Probably guarding the Jade Dogs.

Unless those akuma crossed over into the NeverNever to keep Harry, Michael and their mercenary escort occupied.
And got shanked.


-Speaking of Harry and Michael, judging from their state, looks like the summoned reinforcements I expected the akuma to have ended up on their side of the Wall, and ran into Amoracchius.
Hail the Fist of God.


-The public cover story for this is going to be interesting. As will the ramifications.
Recovered hostages, yes; between J and the girl bakemono, there's missing people to show to the rest of law enforcement, even if we manage to keep most of our people out of it.

But what of the perps?
For one thing, akuma bodies rot in sunlight, so the only person whose body is going to be left is the bakemono who tried to shoot Deborah and got shot.

Maybe we're going to have to drop explosive charges on the bodies and make it look like they had suicide charges
Or just leave the akuma bodies and have it assumed they were using some sort of suicide drug/carrying some sort of chemical that made their bodies rot on death. Hydroflouric acid, maybe?


-Then there's the larger reputational issues for us.
We're certainly getting a visibility increase on the human side of the supernatural; anyone who is anyone, and a lot of the smaller talents are going to be aware that we were part ot a warparty against "vampires and demons".

Daedalus is probably going to get word that something spooky happened here. Might even get some Talents here to look at the site. And given that this site links to Undertown, where the boss akuma claimed territory, the local supernatural world are going to know of the goings on here pretty quickly. The Little Folk, ghosts and malks will probably know the akuma are gone.

Marcone will certainly get his hands on the official report as soon as Murphy files it.
Gard and the Einherjar wont disseminate details on clients as a matter of policy, but he'll get the broad outlines of what happened as soon as, if not faster than the rest of the supernatural community.


-We certainly want the sword.
Because we might be able to reforge it, and because we might get XP discounts for Enchantment and Exalted Crafting from studying the magical techniques used to make equipment that was assigned to a greater akuma.

At worst, its a crafting component, or we can gift it to Monoc after studying it, or as part of our obligation to make them weapons.
Or just give it to the Jade Dogs.


-The body is harder to explain.
We dont need it as a Crown focus, since we've seen the man's face, but we might be able to use it as a Divination focus.

Plus, IC, we can study the body for insight into the magics that helped boost the akuma, as well as any additional vulnerabilities, for the next time Emma-O or one of his rivals sends another greater akuma to town. And IC our Exaltation can probably take pointers on how to make bakemono.

The problem really is storing it safely and securely.
Like @Goldfish said, this isnt exactly stuff we can leave outside or stash under the bed,
We dont have any Summoning/Warding.
I think we need to use the exp of this adventure and use to max our crafting, get the solar crafting charm and craft ourselves city god.
Empathy 5: 4 xp
Hellscry Chakra: 8xp
Ancient Sorcery: Sapphire Circle Exorcism: 10xp

Total 22xp.
My opinion, anyway.
 
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For safe storage of the body, you can just bury it, Molly has the tools to break concrete and put it back together seamlessly. You can then cart it off whenever things cool down.
 
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crown focus for one. Also crafting material. We can probably do some alchemy with it.
Technically it's exactly what Holden's weird crafting system is supposed to run on, so if we're engaging with anything based on that it's probably worth saving it for that.
Whatever else the akuma became, it was human, and this is a human body.
There's probably reputational issues from using the bodyparts of a sapient for crafting in this setting, regardless of any other ethical or magical issues. And those issues are probably magnified when said sapient is human.

I'd probably study it, then dispose of it.

Its IC justification for a lot of things, from making bakemono to a combat specialty against akuma to increased Occult(Molly's Occult is maxed, but Lydia's is not) to learning to ward against Yomi Wan agents to improving Last Station's defenses to designing specifically anti-akuma weapons and enchantments.
For safe storage of the body, you can just bury it, Molly has the tools to break concrete and put it back together seamlessly. You can then cart it off whenever things cool down.
Fair enough.
Maybe get Harry or Bob to draw up a warding circle for Molly to put around wherever she stashes the body.

VOTE
[X] [SWORD] Claim it, maybe you can reforge it
[X] [BODY] Claim it, it might be a little creepy, but having eaten his soul it would be a bit silly to be squeamish about the body
 
If we get up to Crafting 5 and get Constructive Convergence of Principles, I'll vote for making a nuclear fusion reactor and crafting a god of human nuclear fusion :V (Make our own Ignis Divine!)

Or just make a god based on the examples of human nuclear fusion already existing (hydrogen bombs), though I imagine the themes of such gods would, ah, differ greatly.
 
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So 20xp. Here is my idea.

[] Plan Doolittle
-[] Inner Devils Unchained - 12xp
-[] Crowned With Fury - 9xp

This is to give us a horde of Demonic animals that we can command. Inner Devils Unchained turns them into Formi and Crowned with Fury turns them into willing helpers and allows us to bypass having to use Animal Ken, which we have 0 in.
We are committed to getting Inner Devils Unchained before Christmas. Not as sure about Crowned With Fury even though it is a great charm. But we might have a few followers with animal ken. Also Lydia has a charm bonus when dealing with dogs or crows.
 
-The body is harder to explain.
We dont need it as a Crown focus, since we've seen the man's face, but we might be able to use it as a Divination focus.
The body is a better focus - stronger arcane links and all. Plus, it's a good exalted crafting material.
Ancient Sorcery: Sapphire Circle Exorcism: 10xp
Leaving everything else aside, why? It's not a combat-applicable magic. It's an hour long ritual requiring the target to be bound in place. The only targets I can see for it would be Leanansidhe and Maeve, and we have zero reason to know about them. And I think it's way too early to put ourselves directly onto Nemesis's "destroy immediately" list.

If we want ancient sorcery, awakened Eye of the Dragon is much more useful.
 
The barrels in undertown are full of radioactive waste. How you guys feel about making Odin a nuclear powered vehicle? Only problem is that I don't think that we could make it pass emissions testing.
 
-Going to note that the boss akuma had to have felt Molly noshing on his shadow, but it apparently didnt change his fighting strategy at all. Looks like IC confirmation that instructions override survival instincts.
The naagloshii, for example, would have bailed, or tried to bail once it took Agg damage to the soul.
It's also possible that it didn't get the implications or didn't have the time to try anything else likely to be effective.

I mean eating a shard of its soul is scary, but it's not the first time someone like that had encountered soul fuckery. He could have been banking on the idea that we'd have to arm wrestle Emma-O to get his primary soul and that his boss would win.

Three akuma that Molly crippled, who are currently on the floor.
Our Malvora are hangry, might want to write these guys off as MREs/emergency medical supplies.
Or just leave the akuma bodies and have it assumed they were using some sort of suicide drug/carrying some sort of chemical that made their bodies rot on death. Hydroflouric acid, maybe?
Personally I'm hoping Odin's guys are self cleaning. It's not like he hasn't had decades to house train them.
Marcone will certainly get his hands on the official report as soon as Murphy files it.
Marcone is good, but he isn't "penetrate a federal office he didn't even know he needed to care about till just now" good. Unless someone from the spooky side offers to sell it to him same day he's probably not going to be able to read the Library's mail for a while yet.
Empathy 5: 4 xp
Hellscry Chakra: 8xp
Ancient Sorcery: Sapphire Circle Exorcism: 10xp

Total 22xp.
My opinion, anyway.
Essence dissecting stare seems broader in a lot of ways. Just being able to look into the nevernever before crossing is hugely useful, and the fluff in general implies some more interesting things about what we could see.

That said, I think we should consider buying the premium perfect defense this time around. Not having perfects around is asking for trouble past a certain point.
We are committed to getting Inner Devils Unchained before Christmas. Not as sure about Crowned With Fury even though it is a great charm. But we might have a few followers with animal ken. Also Lydia has a charm bonus when dealing with dogs or crows.
Committed by what?

Helping that kid get strong enough to matter is better done through VED, so I at least am reluctant to waste the exp on IDU just cause it's immediate.

Not for nothing, but we don't have hordes of manpower reserves waiting for enhancements and pushing to get them is the sort of thing that backfires easy.

Not that the charm is without value, but it doesn't solve a problem we actually have right now.
Whatever else the akuma became, it was human, and this is a human body.
There's probably reputational issues from using the bodyparts of a sapient for crafting in this setting, regardless of any other ethical or magical issues. And those issues are probably magnified when said sapient is human.
I thought his crafting rules were more of the sacrifice a totem of victory to get X related effect than making leather jackets out of vampire skin. I don't think it'd really be a problem if we went that way.
Leaving everything else aside, why?
For the purposes of screwing with Denarians would be my guess. They'll be around eventually, and we can't easily buy things mid operation when they show up.
 
[X] [SWORD] Claim it, maybe you can reforge it
[X] [BODY] Claim it, it might be a little creepy, but having eaten his soul it would be a bit silly to be squeamish about the body
 
It just occurred to me that Lydia is injured. Agg damage at that, which needs several days to heal.
Lydia isnt escaping Charity this time.
Lol.
The body is a better focus - stronger arcane links and all. Plus, it's a good exalted crafting materia
The Crown does not appear to care very much.

Like I said, human body. There are reputational issues to using sapients as crafting materials.
This isnt First Age Exalted 2E where the Chosen could do as they pleased.
Leaving everything else aside, why? It's not a combat-applicable magic. It's an hour long ritual requiring the target to be bound in place. The only targets I can see for it would be Leanansidhe and Maeve, and we have zero reason to know about them. And I think it's way too early to put ourselves directly onto Nemesis's "destroy immediately" list.

If we want ancient sorcery, awakened Eye of the Dragon is much more useful.
*points at 9-10 year old child bakemono*
Emma-O, and his greater servants have just demonstrated IC the ability to put Yomi Wan demons as instigators and spies inside of humans (and probably animals) as ride alongs. Its an ability we can assume is common to all Yama Kings.

Its also something we've seen powerful ghosts do to humans, like when Corpsetaker did it to Lydia.
There's also the Denarians; we dont want to fuck with Harry/Lash, but its a useful trump to have in our back pocket. And finally Nemesis; note that we havent met Justine, Thomas' girlfriend yet, and she was canonically infected by Nemesis at some point.

Having an option for dealing with all that short of cutting the person's head off? Kinda useful.

IMO, the most useful spells to us right now are, in order,
1)Sapphire Circle Exorcism
2)Blessing of the Wood Dragon: Anti-techbane, crafting and construction
3)Blessing of the Earth Dragon: +1 soak to any mundane armor, Exalted Crafting

Others as necessary.
Awakened Eye of the Dragon is contingent on finishing initial work on Last Station, and clarifying with the QM how thats supposed to work. I doubt its going to simply add dice to dice pools. Might allow Essence regen instead, but thats more useful to Lydia.

The barrels in undertown are full of radioactive waste. How you guys feel about making Odin a nuclear powered vehicle? Only problem is that I don't think that we could make it pass emissions testing.
Armored EV SUVs, then use Blessing of the Wood Dragon on the vehicle to give the vehicles techbane immunity, ensure the batteries dont run down and that the vehicles self-repair.
Much more lowkey, much more useful.
 
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