Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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[X] Offer to buy him a car as soon as he gets his license, you have the money and you can make more
-[X]Empathy Excellency
-[X]STUNT: You hiss melodramatically at him, clawed hands outstretched. "Its my precious. Mine! Nasty hobbitses cant have it. Gollum, Gollum." You hold the pose and a straight face for almost five seconds, then Olivia bounces an empty beer can off your head, and all of you simultaneously crack up. In a more normal voice, you continue. "Yeah well, I can drive, and according to the Illnois Secretary of State's office, you can't. Yet." Daniel makes a face at you, and you stick your tongue back out at him before continuing. "Get your license, and I'll see about buying you wheels."
-[X]Empathy Excellency
-[X]STUNT: You hiss melodramatically at him, clawed hands outstretched. "Its my precious. Mine! Nasty hobbitses cant have it. Gollum, Gollum." You hold the pose and a straight face for almost five seconds, then Olivia bounces an empty beer can off your head, and all of you simultaneously crack up. In a more normal voice, you continue. "Yeah well, I can drive, and according to the Illnois Secretary of State's office, you can't. Yet." Daniel makes a face at you, and you stick your tongue back out at him before continuing. "Get your license, and I'll see about buying you wheels."
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Don't much care about this vote. But, since you said please sure.
[X] Offer to buy him a car as soon as he gets his license, you have the money and you can make more
-[X]Empathy Excellency
-[X]STUNT: You hiss melodramatically at him, clawed hands outstretched. "Its my precious. Mine! Nasty hobbitses cant have it. Gollum, Gollum." You hold the pose and a straight face for almost five seconds, then Olivia bounces an empty beer can off your head, and all of you simultaneously crack up. In a more normal voice, you continue. "Yeah well, I can drive, and according to the Illnois Secretary of State's office, you can't. Yet." Daniel makes a face at you, and you stick your tongue back out at him before continuing. "Get your license, and I'll see about buying you wheels."
- Location
- washington
Also I'll note I'd buy him a turret if we could a cars nothing.
- Location
- Germany
[X] In the time honored tradition of younger siblings getting the hand me downs of their elders, once Daniel gets his driver's license you will give him the Beige Wagon, with the understanding that he will care for it properly and eventually pass it down to a younger sibling himself once he has the means to acquire his own vehicle.
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- Germany
I really don't see Olivia of all people throw something at us over a bad joke. Not at all.
We barely know each other and most of that time together we were glowing with hellfire and crafting a minor deity.
And she doesn't seem like the most outgoing person.
Soooo, could you change the stunt?
1)Normally, no. But the previous update explicitly says they just got done splitting a sixpack of beer.
While it might have no effect on Molly, and probably Lydia, both Olivia and Daniel are mortals without Exalted immunities.
So I wrote the stunt with the expectation that she's a little loosened up.
2)We do know Olivia. She was the one we were talking Power Rangers lore with, remember?
She wasnt at the first Order meeting where we raised the household god, we met her later.
Molly isnt her bosom buddyy, but they are at some degree of friendliness. And she's apparently even closer to Lydia.
3)Also?
Two people have already copied that version of stunt. I dont think its currently worthwhile to change it
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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[X] Offer to buy him a car as soon as he gets his license, you have the money and you can make more
-[X]Empathy Excellency
-[X]STUNT: You hiss melodramatically at him, clawed hands outstretched. "Its my precious. Mine! Nasty hobbitses cant have it. Gollum, Gollum." You hold the pose and a straight face for almost five seconds, then Olivia bounces an empty beer can off your head, and all of you simultaneously crack up. In a more normal voice, you continue. "Yeah well, I can drive, and according to the Illnois Secretary of State's office, you can't. Yet." Daniel makes a face at you, and you stick your tongue back out at him before continuing. "Get your license, and I'll see about buying you wheels."
-[X]Empathy Excellency
-[X]STUNT: You hiss melodramatically at him, clawed hands outstretched. "Its my precious. Mine! Nasty hobbitses cant have it. Gollum, Gollum." You hold the pose and a straight face for almost five seconds, then Olivia bounces an empty beer can off your head, and all of you simultaneously crack up. In a more normal voice, you continue. "Yeah well, I can drive, and according to the Illnois Secretary of State's office, you can't. Yet." Daniel makes a face at you, and you stick your tongue back out at him before continuing. "Get your license, and I'll see about buying you wheels."
Why though?
Molly made 450k from diamonds this month, after taxes and expenses, including Thomas' cut.
Thats a net income of 2.7 million dollars every year if she only does it every other month, 5.4 million a year if she does it monthly. And its not the only income avenue open to Molly.
Molly herself is driving a sports car that went for around 130k new iirc, and would still be worth around 80-100k on the open market for a low mileage example.
The Toyota Echo subcompact was around 11k new.
Toyota Platz - Wikipedia
Its small, its barebones, its driver safety measures are pretty minimal, with a used car rater putting it at 2/5 in the event of an accident. Its associated with Molly, so people may well target it thinking Molly is inside it.
What is the justification for handing this down?
Its not that we lack the money to pay for something modern.
Its not that we value a low profile over personal or family safety.
Its not even that we are trying to lord shit over him.
So why?
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
If we do replace the beetle for harry we should melt down the old one to make parts for his new vehicle, it's bound to have picked up some sort of mythic narrative from everything he's put it through.Lol.
God, a classic Beetle as a daily driver is essentially a death trap.
I have no idea how Dresden survived driving that car for more than a decade with everyone who tried to kill him inside it.
Especially given that he's six feet nine inches tall.
Once we get enough cash in 2007, Im voting for stuffing him into a warded Lexus or a Yukon as a daily driver.
At least that should have legroom. And poor Mouse will actually be able to ride.
Could I see your math? Because I don't agree.
We get sleep reduction at 6 XP spent, i.e. right here. That's +7 waking hours per day, assuming Molly slept 8 hours per day normally. We got 6 AP with 16 hours awake previously. That's 2.7 hours per AP. This means that we should reasonably expect to get 7/2.7=2.6 = 2 (rounding down) bonus AP. Assume 1 AP is spent on actually making the potions. That's still 1 AP increase overall. Even if this AP is specialized, because it'd be at night, that's a big plus.
Now, XP calculations:
We spent 6 XP already. To get to alchemy 5 we'll need:
6 XP to alchemy 3 9/2=4.5=4 XP to alchemy 4
12 XP to alchemy 5
22 XP total left to spend, 28 XP total.
We get 3 free recipes per dot. This is much more versatile than most 5 dot charms, except Kingdom one. And by getting the kingdom charm we essentially negate the issue of alchemical recipes, if we take advanced technology, and fluff the realm to have alchemists loyal to us in large numbers, who will share their recipes with us. Why is this much more versatile? Well, here's the quote from QM about what we get at 5 dots:
It's not one person, though? It's her entire social circle. There are enough skavis and other types of whamps running around for them to have peer groups in Chicago, in which the type of awakening you have (i.e. "how you murder someone") are discussed, planned and determine one's social standing. MMP and a bit of social engineering ("I got to have a meal with the new and ultra-cool celestial demon queen! She personally made me dinner! And I got my powers out of it, and my hunger is super easy to control now!" talk writes itself) can totally solve the whole issue.
White whamps don't. Fledgelings do become something else:
Here:
So, let's actually brainstorm what we can do about it with our toolset. What do we want? To feed her hunger, in a way that is at least somewhat moral, and ideally leads to her being loyal to us. We definitely want to avoid mortal deaths.
What tools do we have that are at least somewhat related to the task? We have alchemy 2. We know that in canon Dresden potions to "make yourself fall in love with someone" are possible and are within Dresden's repertoire. We could probably kitbash a potion to make someone feel temporary despair with Bob's help, and/or with a Crown's question. Whether this would be Alchemy 2 or 3 is a question, but definitely not higher. I would argue that this is alchemy 2. Perfect hangover cure is alchemy 1, so some sort of addiction remover is probably alchemy 1/2. So we could, in principle, engineer something where we give a volunteer with a lot of life force (ourselves?) a potion to feel despair with no lasting consequences, and let the girl feed on them. That would be at least an AP worth of action, however, I feel. Might still be worth it - we are kinda obligated to do it, as per taking her into our service.
Alternatively, we need to work out how to string her along until we get both the Kingdom and MMP for synergy, or at least MMP. So at least a month, likely 3 (until christmas). Occult research could be utilized for this, probably. As in "research occult elder lore, and we'll do a grand ritual with you later" something like this. We'll need to keep her occupied, at least.
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- Germany
Usual procedure.
First-time drivers get an older/cheaper car, because they are more likely to damage it.
Not necessarily in serious accidents, but often enough in minor stuff like parking in and out or some other miscalculation.
I don't think I know anybody who didn't scratch up their car in the first few years at least once or twice.
So you drive something unspectacular until you actually have a few years worth of experience on the road.
Thank you for the reply.However, that isnt accurate for the US.
Chicago has better public transport options than most of the US, and regardless of that, cars arent a luxury here like in much of Europe, but a necessity.
Teenagers customarily start out driving with their parents vehicles, regardless of how expensive they are, and get older/cheaper cars only because their families/their finances generally cant afford anything better. Those teenagers and young adults who can get new cars typically some of the most car-proud people around.
This is also true for first-time drivers; nobody buys an older/cheaper car as a daily driver to get experience.
Not here.
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If he manages to scratch it up even with a cyberdevil giving him driver assist, he saves his allowance and gets it fixed. Or drives it as is. Its a learning opportunity. Or we make a sibling bonding occasion of it and both of us work to fix it at home with Tool Constructs.
Money at this level is not a concern for Molly any more.
I dont know if Rosie can even drive yet, and she certainly hasnt been doing it recently. And yet we certainly arent going to stick her and her newborn in an old, cheap car because she might scratch it. Thats what car insurance is for. Shit, if that was a major concern of ours, we'd be looking for a used car to rebuild if our time wasnt literally worth more than the money right now.
Nah.
You buy a mid-high end, reliable car in the 60-70k range off the shelf and enchant it; with any luck it and its electronics will last him ten to twenty years before the electronics become so outdated that we have to convince him to get a replacement.
Its going to be difficult enough to convince him to take it; convincing him to melt down his old car is just adding extra steps of difficulty to the process.
Thank you.
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Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
My idea is to have her feed on Molly while Molly is in a vat of Bleach.
This would heal Molly and provide her with power. The mental effect would be taken care of via IPM.
Ofc feeding on an Infernal is dicy at best. Feeding on one while while it is plugged into a spiritual center of the cosmos is....yeah.
Especially since Molly's Essence is a mix of Nuclear Hate Fire and Spitefully Cursed Ice.
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- Germany
IPM prevents her from Feeding on us, we have already seen that when we first met her.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Actually @DragonParadox what damage does a WVamp do when feeding? Bashing or lethal? Would being submerged help heal faster than she can eat?
Also would the plan work? Can they feed on Infernal Essence? Would IPM stop her from feeding?
There are two ways described in the books.
Hungry Dead.
Also would the plan work? Can they feed on Infernal Essence? Would IPM stop her from feeding?
There are two ways described in the books.
Hungry Dead.
Vampires
It was established that she can't feed on Molly:
Our chi is too harsh for her. Whether this is because of infernal flavor, or because she's a lowly demonblood trying to feed on the celestial exalted grade essence is a separate issue. Lydia, as a terrestrial-grade exalt and conceptually aligned with despair (because death is connected to despair) might be swingable, but I certainly won't even ask her to subject herself to soul-crushing despair for some random girl. Molly would probably need to create some sort of filtering and dilluting ritual to be able to feed the girl. If we collaborate with Harry we could probably make something.
They do temp willpower damage at first, then once they really get going they start doing permanent willpower damage and when that hits zero you are dead. They also cannot feed from Molly because her Essence is made of endless darkness and radioactive hate. Not in the least compatible with the phage. It would be like a human trying to eat a radioactive core for the energy inside.
Lots of social for her to hold off until we get MMP? Or we could probably use our stores of gossamer to make something that would feed her. I mean, gossamer can be made into impossible materials, so "materialized willpower" should be doable.