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yes I am aware that the healthcare crisis is still ongoing but I just had a brain fart over it

which makes me more reluctance to put more actions into foreign policy than necessary for a while until we fixed that issues

I mean, the immediate future is pretty packed, but we do have some slack towards the second half of the 5YP:


edit: disregard that SupCom in white, those should have been erased.

CyPac: "This is a peaceful economic alliance for fostering economic growth in an anti-imperialist fashion." 😌
Also CyPac:
 
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Ok, I'm on the edge of doing a complete 180, supporting Treaty Organization. Cementing leftism and empowering those countries otherwise left to hang is enough to create a lasting positive impact on the world. Rather than burn years of turns herding cats, we could just make sure they can stand on their own and keep focusing on the domestic front. Is this what you're pushing for, @CyberEnby ?
 
Ok, I'm on the edge of doing a complete 180, supporting Treaty Organization. Cementing leftism and empowering those countries otherwise left to hang is enough to create a lasting positive impact on the world. Rather than burn years of turns herding cats, we could just make sure they can stand on their own and keep focusing on the domestic front. Is this what you're pushing for, @CyberEnby ?

I think it's a missed opportunity. We're already going to be dedicating two 5YPs worth of effort to the Treaty Org, and if we double that we get to straight up do a World Communism. The geometrical growth in the number of CyPac actions trades well for bigger projects like Federation.
 
I'm leaning Treaty Organization but might compromise and vote for Confederation but pretty against Federation just because I'm not super interested in spending the rest of the quest watching us bash our heads against a wall trying to force the unification of a bunch of cultures that have nearly no similarities between them.
 
I'm leaning Treaty Organization but might compromise and vote for Confederation but pretty against Federation just because I'm not super interested in spending the rest of the quest watching us bash our heads against a wall trying to force the unification of a bunch of cultures that have nearly no similarities between them.

I think we might have different ideas of what a federation entails. Pretty sure it's definitionally a shared foreign policy and internal autotomy.
 
I think we might have different ideas of what a federation entails. Pretty sure it's definitionally a shared foreign policy and internal autotomy.
"[] Federation
The Long Dream of many a people to unite a vast region underneath a singular polity. The longest path by far, yet the one that yields the most when taken into the future. (12 Advancements are required before Federation Advancements are unlocked.)"

Compared to

"[] Confederation
A union of states working closely together under a united directive, without giving up autonomy and independence, they do not wish to surrender. Though each nation remains distinct, they all work closely together to present a united front against those who wish them harm. (8 Advancements are required before Confederation Advancements are unlocked.)"

The confederation vote is closer to what you are talking about from my reading.
 
[X] Confederation
I just like the narrative of this more then federation

[X] Treaty Organization
Very specifically states
and any further cohesive or federative actions are left for the future to figure out
So im going to believe that in the future we can grab either the confid/federation it might take more total actions, but this would get the the treaty on its own feet faster and have more of its specific actions quicker + more advancements done.
 
[X] Treaty Organization
[X] Confederation


We've got several members that are already joining with conditions, and I'm pretty sure at least one is very serious about backing out if their country's autonomy is threatened. I think a confederation is the farthest we can push for the time being, and having a treaty org is already going to be a pretty big deal.
 
[X] Treaty Organization
[X] Confederation


Do you really think more things aren't going to catch fire and need actions and effort?

More to the point, 4 5YPs is a win condition and considering the generally escalating difficulty adding CyPac as global communism feels like creating our own win condition.
 
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