Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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"You will be invited of course, as well as your Lady," Bian ya said, smiling impishly. "Perhaps you can bring a plus one. Was it the Bao, the Meng, or perhaps Sir Xuan?"
Ling Qi laughed aloud. "Who knows. I've barely had time to think about it."
Ruan Shen blinked and glanced at Bian Ya, whose startled look passed even faster.
And all it took for Ling Qi to lighten up about romance talk was the Prism Nightmare of the Emerald Seas trying to kill her ass.
 
[X] Some notes on the Beast Kings art and the play its attached too, and the way it has changed over the centuries. (Will allow two Beast King projects to be taken in one slot.)

Because two projects at once is amazing. Also because it finally allow BKSD to be developed. Summons are cool.

Also, if we take Primacy of Beast, will it change Wolf God's Cunning too? Because it change the prerequisite technique to something else.
 
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I think that propping up Ling Yu Nuan would be the best thing, like it's part of our familial obligations. It would show we actually value Yu Nuan and aren't just paying lip service. Also isn't the Cathedral of Winds like the site on our lands? Cultivating for everyone, even if the Saline Grotto is more Qi's speed overall. And it has the supernatural Aerogel.
 
I think that propping up Ling Yu Nuan would be the best thing, like it's part of our familial obligations. It would show we actually value Yu Nuan and aren't just paying lip service. Also isn't the Cathedral of Winds like the site on our lands? Cultivating for everyone, even if the Saline Grotto is more Qi's speed overall. And it has the supernatural Aerogel.
In this case "in universe" there's not an actual choice, whichever wins the vote is instead just retroactively what Ruan Shen's dad's only offer always was, so it's not like Ling Qi is picking whether or not to prop up Yu Nuan and going "nah." But it is also true that there's benefits to propping up Yu Nuan.
 
This is perhaps our first sight at an AP boost and I like it. Limited, but really powerful given how much our base cultivation is based on project progress. I will be voting for it.

(Subliminal messaging activate)
VOTE TREE
(This concludes this subliminal messaging)
 
Neither of these choices is super immediate, honestly. Both are post-summit. Since we don't have space to cultivate BKSD before then, even with the action compression, though it's a longer post than I have time for to explain why.

Leaning towards the wood simply because I think a construction project will have more story presence/continuity.
 
I think that propping up Ling Yu Nuan would be the best thing, like it's part of our familial obligations. It would show we actually value Yu Nuan and aren't just paying lip service.

That option just gives her talisman components rather than helping her cultivation directly. I'd be a lot more tempting if it was actually making Yu Nuan herself more powerful, but it's just giving her better equipment, which isn't nothing but isn't worth giving up us being made permanently more powerful personally and directly.

As I mention, BKSD insights can also potentially help her if she chooses to learn the Art. It's probably our only notable Art that is actually suited to Yu Nuan, but it is decently well suited to her.
 
Mmm, in many ways what makes 2 more interesting is not the AP gain - however appealing it is to help cut into our backlog - but rather the political and thematic ideas. It raises more engagement with history and the things we played with in our heretical opera, but also signals others engaging with that as well.
 
Mmm, in many ways what makes 2 more interesting is not the AP gain - however appealing it is to help cut into our backlog - but rather the political and thematic ideas. It raises more engagement with history and the things we played with in our heretical opera, but also signals others engaging with that as well.
That's very true, it opens up the door and signals that others are interested in exploring the ancient past of the Emerald Seas which is really interesting.
 
I think it would be interesting to reflect on the next turn with the other projects we want to do. The themes of these together should make for some interesting writing/topics

Primacy of Beasts: Learn the song of nature, the melody of tooth and claw. Where lies the line between beasts and men, which brings us to war? Mere greed and pride, or something more? Alters the primal War Calling into the Vermin God's Legion technique. +1 XP to Want and Power. Unlocks one Project(0/3)
Xiangmen, Fortress of Tsu Pt. 2: Yet man could not cower among the roots for all eternity, and the companions Tsu had gathered to cast down the Gods. One victory alone was not enough to break humanities shackles. Alters the Wolf God's Cunning technique. +1 XP to Motion and Home.(0/5)
 
Okay, so looking at our current BKSD projects, we have at least 4 confirmed projects.

Beast King's Savage Dirge: Yang, Wood, Darkness, Music, Beasts, Conquest, Power

Bear God's Fury: The Bear God, avatar of wrath, whose crushing paws sundered trees and reshaped hills, Learn the stanzas of the great ballad which spoke of his coming and the ruin of the wolf gods plans. Learn the Bear God's Fury technique, which summons the phantom limbs of the titan to crush and pin down foes, and breaks the chains of power in his fall. Unlocks One Project. (0/3)
Primacy of Beasts: Learn the song of nature, the melody of tooth and claw. Where lies the line between beasts and men, which brings us to war? Mere greed and pride, or something more? Alters the primal War Calling into the Vermin God's Legion technique. +1 XP to Want and Power. Unlocks one Project(0/3)
Xiangmen, Fortress of Tsu Pt. 2: Yet man could not cower among the roots for all eternity, and the companions Tsu had gathered to cast down the Gods. One victory alone was not enough to break humanities shackles. Alters the Wolf God's Cunning technique. +1 XP to Motion and Home.(0/5)

Bear God's Fury and its follow up and Primacy of Beasts and its follow up. Assuming that there's Fortress of Tsu project for each beast god, then that's at least 3 more (with the ones we know of rn): the Wolf god, the Vermin god, and the Bear god.

So that's 6-7 projects or so.

Plus, since they're history notes, we can pass them down to people in our clan too.

Now, for Cathedral of Winds. I'm assuming that the bonus would add the Music keyword bonus to the site when we're exploring. Either that or an interaction with the Piper, the spirit there. Building up Cathedral of Winds would help all our future clan members, especially if it helps decrease the costs of cultivation for Music like it does for Sun/Water/Wind.

Plus, most of our arts are Music arts. Having a aite which gives a Music keyword bonus would be a great replacement for greater Argent Vent. Plus, it means that we may bring Yu Nuan along with us when we explore, and that'll be fun since she has to explore the fief too
 
[ ] Some notes on the Beast Kings art and the play its attached too, and the way it has changed over the centuries. (Will allow two Beast King projects to be taken in one slot.)

We need this. Desperately. Even if it's only a one time thing (which I would assume is the case), extra projects are exactly what we need to get our arts completed. The other option is tempting, but it's a cool bonus rather than a desperate need. This is the latter.

It can even theoretically benefit Yu Nuan if she wants to take advantage...BKSD is one of our few arts she could probably actually make good use of if she chose to.

I agree. The lumber stuff sounds cool, but getting a double dip on projects is just too good to pass up.
 
Okay, so looking at our current BKSD projects, we have at least 4 confirmed projects.



Bear God's Fury and its follow up and Primacy of Beasts and its follow up. Assuming that there's Fortress of Tsu project for each beast god, then that's at least 3 more (with the ones we know of rn): the Wolf god, the Vermin god, and the Bear god.

So that's 6-7 projects or so.

This is an assumption, but not an unwarranted one, I think that's probably right-ish in terms of number of projects.

Plus, since they're history notes, we can pass them down to people in our clan too.

Yeah, BKSD is a good art for a lot of people, being able to pass it down easily seems good to me even aside from the benefits to ourselves.

Now, for Cathedral of Winds. I'm assuming that the bonus would add the Music keyword bonus to the site when we're exploring. Either that or an interaction with the Piper, the spirit there. Building up Cathedral of Winds would help all our future clan members, especially if it helps decrease the costs of cultivation for Music like it does for Sun/Water/Wind.

Plus, most of our arts are Music arts. Having a aite which gives a Music keyword bonus would be a great replacement for greater Argent Vent. Plus, it means that we may bring Yu Nuan along with us when we explore, and that'll be fun since she has to explore the fief too

I feel like the big assumption here is that it provides bonuses rather than options. Like, from wording, the Cathedral of Winds choice gives us additional options when we complete that quest...not additional benefits, additional options. To me, that indicates that it expands our list of choices rather than expanding how many things we get from the list.

One of them might be music...but it might not, too, and one of the options might even already be music given the Piper. Like, there's a lot of assumptions that do seem unwarranted in this analysis of how things will work with this option
 
This is an assumption, but not an unwarranted one, I think that's probably right-ish in terms of number of projects.



Yeah, BKSD is a good art for a lot of people, being able to pass it down easily seems good to me even aside from the benefits to ourselves.



I feel like the big assumption here is that it provides bonuses rather than options. Like, from wording, the Cathedral of Winds choice gives us additional options when we complete that quest...not additional benefits, additional options. To me, that indicates that it expands our list of choices rather than expanding how many things we get from the list.

One of them might be music...but it might not, too, and one of the options might even already be music given the Piper. Like, there's a lot of assumptions that do seem unwarranted in this analysis of how things will work with this option

The keyword bonuses that sites give can change based on how we develop them. Having building materials that are both Wind and Music can give the site add a project that gives it a Music bonus.

It's already built by a musical spirit and has a horde of music spirits (syrens) inside. Maybe the wood is what we need to focus the energies to provide a Music keyword bonus. It's a reasonable assumption, imo.

We've not fully explored it, yeah, bur I'm using the limited info we have right now. Plus like, geomancy and site development are the only ways I can see the wood affecting the Cathedral.

Edit: Well, not really. Since it can be used to give Yu Nuan talismans and with her adoption after the summit, I can see her working with us when we clear it out, and her presence can also help give additional value, just like how Suyin's presence gives additional value.
 
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The keyword bonuses that sites give can change based on how we develop them. Having building materials that are both Wind and Music can give the site add a project that gives it a Music bonus.

It's already built by a musical spirit and has a horde of music spirits (syrens) inside. Maybe the wood is what we need to focus the energies to provide a Music keyword bonus. It's a reasonable assumption, imo.

Really, all that makes me think is that music is an option either way. This might let us get, say, Wind + Music as a single option rather than two, or something...but Music seems likely to be available either way.

We've not fully explored it, yeah, bur I'm using the limited info we have right now. Plus like, geomancy and site development are the only ways I can see the wood affecting the Cathedral.

Assuming this is a necessary prerequisite to get Music seems really premature. It could be true, but I don't think that's a sure thing by any means.
 
"You will be invited of course, as well as your Lady," Bian ya said, smiling impishly. "Perhaps you can bring a plus one. Was it the Bao, the Meng, or perhaps Sir Xuan?"

Ling Qi laughed aloud. "Who knows. I've barely had time to think about it."

Ruan Shen blinked and glanced at Bian Ya, whose startled look passed even faster. "Well, its hardly urgent for you," Bian Ya said. "With talent like yours."

"Its something I should think about though," Ling Qi said. "I… don't really know how though."

Bian ya considered her, and pursed her lips. "Should you need it, you have my ear or writing desk. I will offer whatever small advice I can."
Love the character development! That tribulation still doing wonders, making that path of teasing Qi much less effective for now :V
"Distilled Moonsilver, a product of my family lands, from the wells that form among the root hills in Xiangmen. I could regale you with the technical details, but, I fear it might be lost on you."
Awesome! That is our second ingredient we've collected for our flute after Grydja's petrified sacrifice for the wood. We have materials that are attuned to our dark and cold affinities and now our lunar affinity as well. Not sure if we'll need another ingredient for wind or dream or something but we'd definitely need a crafter. And since we want this flute to last well into the highest realms and we have what is likely prism grade wood from Grydja we are gonna need a sovereign to craft it.

The moon may do it on our music quest, maybe Jiao or Xin. That Meng crafter would be perfect if we could get another favor from the Meng. And then perhaps the craziest option is getting shenhua to craft it as a reward for a job well done :V
 
Her hair was spiked out and stiff with some product, dyed to an actinic blue shot through with white. She rearranged her piercings a little, dangling iron spikes etched with the symbols of the thunder court crackling with lightning in her ears, a set of three silver rings through her lip, and a stud of blue-white jade pushed through her brow.

I'd completely forgotten that Yu Nuan is a punk rocker lmao.
 
[X] A delivery of their highest quality lumber, infused with wind and music qi(Benefits Yu Nuan via Talisman mats, Cathedral of Winds Quest gains additional options)

Keeping in mind that Music is an advanced element, we want Music Sites if possible, for Qi, for Yu Nuan, for initiating Qingge and (much later) Biyu into Music Qi without breaking the bank on Music Pills, we want a Music Site.

Also Yu Nuan doesn't really have an offensive talisman worth her tier that we know of, so it's great value.
 
Keeping in mind that Music is an advanced element, we want Music Sites if possible, for Qi, for Yu Nuan, for initiating Qingge and (much later) Biyu into Music Qi without breaking the bank on Music Pills, we want a Music Site.

[ ] A delivery of their highest quality lumber, infused with wind and music qi(Benefits Yu Nuan via Talisman mats, Cathedral of Winds Quest gains additional options)

Note that it says Quest, not the cultivation site itself.
 
[X] A delivery of their highest quality lumber, infused with wind and music qi(Benefits Yu Nuan via Talisman mats, Cathedral of Winds Quest gains additional options)

I rolled a dice
 
[X] A delivery of their highest quality lumber, infused with wind and music qi(Benefits Yu Nuan via Talisman mats, Cathedral of Winds Quest gains additional options)
 
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