Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Honestly thought she was Divination or Scrying primary, not Oneiromancy.
  1. OOC Divination has the issue of being too strong in ways that are not that fun, a narrative headache
  2. IC the more I thought about her circumstances the more it made sense for her to be dreamseeing. She specifically saw Arctis Tor and Molly's Exaltation while dreaming not the future, not the past, events in the Nevernever as they happened that night. Plus it has more potential for future hooks relating to Molly's own nightmares and [REDACTED FOR SPOILERS] :V
 
Rosie has glaring parent/authority issues.
Inviting Michael along is unlikely to help, not at this stage.
Inviting Michael is helping to establish that there are parent-aged people who can be trusted. Michael is good at being trusted.

Harry is a paramilitary commander with a full caseload. He doesnt really have anything in common with Rosie.

Besides, they've already met.
During the events of Proven Guilty. He saved her life from a fetch cosplaying as not!Jason Voerhoeves, held her hand until EMTs came, and diagnosed her at the hospital as being a heroin user and affected by black magic.
came a white-and-cobalt floodlight, driving back the gloom, burning it from my path. It left the large room still coated in shadow, but it was no longer the total occlusion of the magical murk.
It was a long room, about sixty feet, maybe half that wide. At the far end of the room was a very large projection screen. Chairs faced it in two columns. At one point in the aisle between them, a projector sat, running at such a frantic speed that smoke was rising from the reels of celluloid. The projected movie still appeared clearly on the screen, in a frantic fast-motion blur of faces and images from a classic horror film from the early eighties. The soundtrack could only be heard as a single, long, piercing howl.
There were still about twenty people in the room. Immediately beside the door was an old woman, curled on her side on the ground, sobbing in pain. Nearby a wheelchair lay overturned, and a man with braces of some kind on his legs and hips had fallen into an awkward, painful-looking sprawl from which he could not arise. One of his arms was visibly broken, bone pushing at skin. Other people cringed against the walls and beneath chairs. When my wizard light flooded the place, they got up and started staggering away, still screaming in horror.
Straight ahead of me were bodies and blood.
I couldn't see much of them. Three people were down. There was a lot of blood around. A fourth person, a young woman, crawled toward the door making frantic mewling sounds.
A man stood over her. He was nearly seven feet tall and so thick with slabs of muscle that he almost seemed deformed-not pretty bodybuilder muscle, either, but the thick, dull slabs that come from endless physical labor. He wore overalls, a blue shirt, and a hockey mask, and there was a long, curved sickle in his right hand. As I watched, he took a pair of long steps forward, seized the whimpering girl by her hair, and jerked her body into a backward bow. He raised the sickle in his right hand.
Rawlins didn't bother to offer him a chance to surrender. He took a stance not ten feet away, aimed, and put three shots into the masked maniac's head.
The man jerked, twisting a bit, and released the girl's hair abruptly, tossing her aside with a terrible, casual strength. She hit a row of chairs and let out a cry of pain.

Then the maniac turned toward Rawlins and, even though the mask hid his features, the tilt of his head and the tension of his posture showed that he was furious. He went toward Rawlins. The cop shot him four more times, flashes of bright white burning the image of the maniac and the room onto my eyes.
He brought the sickle down on Rawlins. The cop managed to catch the force of it upon his long flashlight. Sparks flew from the steel case, but the light held. The maniac twisted the sickle, so that the tip plowed a furrow across Rawlins's forearm. The cop snarled. The flashlight spun to the ground. The maniac raised the sickle again.
I braced myself, raised my staff and my will, and cried, "Forzare!"
Unseen power lashed from my staff, pure kinetic energy that ripped through the air and hit the maniac like a wrecking ball. The blow drove him back down the aisle, through the air. He hit the projector on its stand. It shattered. He went through it without slowing down. He kept going, the flight of his passage tearing through the large projection screen, and hit the back wall with a thunderous impact.
I sagged in sudden exhaustion, the effort of the spell an enormous drain on me, and had to plant my staff on the ground to keep from falling over. My headache flared up with a vengeance, and the light of my amulet and staff both faded.
There were a few more screams, the quick, light sound of frightened feet, and I whirled. I saw someone flee the room from the corner of my eye, but I didn't get much of a look at them. A second later, the room returned to normal, the lights back, the broken projector still spinning one reel at reduced speed, a loose tongue of film slap-slap-slapping the broken casing.
Rawlins advanced, gun still out, his eyes very wide, down to the far end of the room. He went past the screen and looked behind it, gun in firing position. He looked around for a second, then back at me, his expression baffled.
"He's not here," Rawlins said. "Did you see him go that way?"
I just didn't have enough left in me to speak right at that moment. I shook my head.
"There's a dent in the wall," he reported. "Covered in… I dunno what. Some kind of slime."
"He's gone," I grunted. Then I started forward, toward the downed people. Two of them were young men, the third a young woman. "Help me."
Rawlins holstered his weapon and did. One of the young men was dead. There was a crescent-shaped cut in his thigh that had opened an artery. Another lay mercifully unconscious, a bruise on his head, several hideous inches of bloody innards protruding from a slash across his belly. I was afraid that if we moved him, his guts might come popping out. The girl was alive, but the sickle's tip had drawn a pair of long lines down her back along the spine, and the cuts had been vicious and deep. Bits of bone showed and she lay on her belly, her eyes open and blinking but utterly unfocused, either unwilling or unable to move.
We did what we could for them, which wasn't much more than jerking the tablecloths off the water tables in the corner and improvising soft pads out of them to apply to open wounds. The second girl lay on her side nearby, sobbing hysterically I checked on the old woman, who had just had the wind knocked out of her. I hauled the guy who'd fallen from his wheelchair into a slightly more comfortable position and he nodded thanks at me.
"See to the other victim," Rawlins said. He held the pad against the boy's opened abdomen, putting gentle pressure on it as he jerked out his radio. It squealed with feedback and static when he used it, but he managed to get emergency help headed our way.
I went to the sobbing girl, a tiny little brunette wearing much the same clothes as Molly had been. She'd been bruised up pretty well, and from the way she lay on the floor she could evidently not move without feeling agony. I went to her and felt over her left shoulder gently. "Be still," I told her quietly. "It's your collarbone, I think. I know it hurts like hell, but you're going to be all right."
"It hurts, it hurts, hurts, hurts, hurts," she panted.
I found her hand with mine and squeezed tight. She returned it with a desperate pressure. "You'll be all right," I told her.
"Don't leave me," she whimpered. Her hand was all but crushing mine. "Don't leave."
"It's all right," I said. "I'm right here."

"What the hell is this?" Rawlins said, panting. He looked around him, at the corpse, at the movie screen, at the dent in the wall beyond. "That was the Reaper, the freaking Reaper. From the Suburban Slasher films. What kind of psycho dresses up as the Reaper and starts…" His face twisted in sudden nausea. "What the hell is this?"
"Rawlins," I said, in a sharp voice, to get his attention.
His frightened eyes darted to me.
"Call Murphy," I told him.
He stared at me blankly for a second, then said, "My captain is the one who has to make the call on that one. He'll decide."
"Up to you," I said. "But Murphy and her boys might actually be able to do something with this. Your captain can't." I nodded at the corpse. "And we aren't playing for pennies here."
Rawlins looked at me. Then at the dead boy. Then he nodded once and picked up his radio again.
"Hurts," the girl whimpered, breathless with pain. "Hurts, hurts, hurts."
I held her hand. I patted it awkwardly with my gloved left hand while we heard sirens approach.

"My God," Rawlins said again. He shook his head. "My God, Dresden. What happened here?"
I stared at the enormous rip in the movie screen and at the Reaper-shaped dent in the wooden panels of the wall behind it. Clear gelatin, the physical form of ectoplasm, the matter of the spirit world, gleamed there against the broken wood. In minutes it would evaporate, and there would be nothing left behind.
"My God," Rawlins whispered again, his voice still stunned. "What happened here?"
Yeah.
Good question.


Chapter Thirteen​

The authorities arrived and replaced crisis with aftermath. The EMTs rushed the more badly injured girl and the eviscerated young man to an emergency room, while police officers who arrived on the scene did what they could to take care of the other injured attendees until more medical teams could show up. I stayed with the injured girl, holding her hand. One of the EMTs had examined her briefly, saw that though in considerable pain she was not in immediate danger, and ordered me to stay with her and keep anyone from moving her until the next team could arrive.
That suited me fine. The thought of standing up again was daunting.
I sat with the girl as more police arrived. She had become quiet and listless as her fear faded and her body produced endorphins to dull the pain. I heard a gasp and the sudden sound of pounding feet. I looked up to see Molly slip by a patrolman and fling herself down beside the girl.
"Rosie!" she cried, her face very pale. "Oh my God!"
"Easy, easy," I told her, putting a hand against Molly's shoulder to prevent her from embracing the wounded girl. "Don't jostle her."

"She's hurt," Molly protested. "Why haven't they put her in an ambulance?"
"She's not in immediate danger," I said. "Two other people were. The ambulance took them first. She goes on the next one."
"What happened?" Molly asked.
I shook my head. "I'm not sure yet. I didn't see much of it. They were attacked."
The girl on the floor suddenly stirred and opened her eyes. "Molly?" she said.
"I'm here, Rosie," Molly said. She touched the injured girl's cheek. "I'm right here."

"My God," the girl said. Tears welled from her eyes. "He killed them. He killed them." Her breathing began to come faster, building toward panic.
"Shhhhhhh," Molly said, and stroked Rosie's hair back from her forehead as one might a frightened child. "You're safe now. It's all right."
"The baby," Rosie said. She slid her hand from mine and laid it over her belly. "Is the baby all right?"
Molly bit her lip and looked at me.
"She's pregnant?" I asked.
"Three months," Molly confirmed. "She just found out."
"The baby," Rosie said. "Will the baby be all right?"
"They're going to do everything possible to make sure that you're both all right," I said immediately. "Try not to worry about it too much."
Rosie closed her eyes, tears still streaming. "All right."
"Rosie," Molly asked. "Can you tell me what happened?"
"I'm not sure," she whispered. "I was sitting with Ken and Drea. We'd already seen our favorite scene in the movie and we decided to go. I was bending over to get my purse and Drea was checking her makeup and then the lights went out and she started screaming… And then when I could see again, he was there." She shuddered. "He was there."
"Who?" Molly pressed.
Rosie's eyes opened too wide, showing white all around. Her voice dropped to a whisper. "The Reaper."
Molly frowned. "Like in the movie? Someone in a costume."
"It couldn't be," Rosie said, her trembling growing more pronounced. "It was him. It was really him."
The next medical team arrived and headed right for us. Rosie seemed to be on the verge of another panic attack when she saw them, and started thrashing around. Molly leaned in close, whispering to her and continually touching her head, until the EMTs could get to work.
I stepped back. They got Rosie loaded onto a stretcher. When they laid her arm down by her side, I could see several small, round marks, irregular bruises, and damaged capillaries just under the surface of the skin at the bend of her arm.
Molly stared at me for a second, her eyes wide. Then she helped the EMTs throw a blanket over Rosie and her track marks. The EMTs counted to three and lifted the stretcher, flicked out the wheels underneath, and rolled her toward the doors. The girl stirred and thrashed weakly as they did this, letting out whimpering little cries
Murphy gave him a brief glare, and we went down the hall to visit the first of the victims.
It was a single-bed room. Molly was there, in a chair beside the bed, where she had evidently been asleep while mostly sitting up. By the time I got in the room and shut the door, she was looking around blearily and mopping at the corner of her mouth with her sleeve. In the bed beside her was Rosie, small and pale.
Molly touched the girl's arm and gently roused her. Rosie looked up at us and blinked a few times.

Good morning," Murphy said. "I hope you were able to get some rest."
"A l-little," the girl said, her voice raspy. She looked around, but Molly was already passing her a glass of water with a straw in it. Rosie sipped and then laid her head tiredly back, then murmured a thank you to Molly. "A little," she said again, her voice stronger. "Who are you?"
"My name is Karrin Murphy. I'm a detective for the Chicago Police Department." She gestured at me, and took a pen and a small notebook from her hip pocket. "This is Harry Dresden. He's working with us on the case. Do you mind if he's here?"
Rosie licked her lips and shook her head. Her uninjured hand moved fitfully, stroking over the bandages on the opposite forearm in nervous motions. Murphy engaged the girl in quiet conversation.
"What are you doing here?" Molly asked me in a half whisper.
"Looking into things," I replied as quietly. "There's something spooky going on."
Molly chewed on her lip. "You're sure?"
"Definitely," I said. "Don't worry. I'll find whatever hurt your friend."
"Friends," Molly said, emphasizing the plural. "Have you heard anything about Ken? Rosie's boyfriend? No one will tell us anything."
"He the kid that they took from the scene?"
Molly nodded anxiously. "Yes."
I glanced at Murphy's back and didn't say anything.
Molly got it. Her face went white and she whispered, "Oh, God. She'll be so…" She folded her arms and shook her head several times. Then she said, "I've got to…" She looked around, and in a louder voice said, "I'm dying for coffee. Anyone else need some?"
Nobody did. Molly picked up her purse and turned around to walk for the door. In doing so, she brushed within a foot or two of Mouse. Instead of growling, though, Mouse leaned his head affectionately against her leg as she went by, and cadged a few ear scratches from the girl before she left.
I frowned at Mouse after Molly had gone. "Are you going bipolar on me?"
He settled down again immediately. Murphy went on asking Rosie fairly predictable questions about the attack.
The clock was running. I pushed the question about Mouse's odd behavior aside for the moment, and let Mouse watch the door while I reached for my Sight.
It was a slight effort of concentration to push away the concerns of the material world, like aches and pains and bruises and why my dog was growling at Molly, and then the mere light and shadow and color of the everyday world dissolved into the riot of flowing energy and currents of light and power that lay beneath the surface.
Murphy looked like Murphy had always looked beneath my Sight. She appeared almost as herself, but clearer, somehow, her eyes flashing, and she was garbed in a quasi angelic tunic of white, stained in places with the blood and mud of battle. A short, straight sword, its blade made of almost viciously bright white light, hung beneath her left arm, where I knew her light cotton blazer hid her gun in its shoulder rig. She looked at me and I could see her physical face as a vague shadow beneath the surface of the aspect I saw now. She smiled at me, a sunny light in it, though her body's face remained a neutral mask. I was seeing the life, the emotion behind her face, now.
I shied away from staring at her lest I make eye contact for too long- but that smile, at least, was something I wouldn't mind remembering. Rosie was another story.
The physical Rosie was a small, slight, pale young woman with thin, frail features. The Rosie my Sight revealed to me was entirely different. Pale skin became a pallid, dirty, leathery coating. Large dark eyes looked even bigger, and flicked around with darting, avian jerks. They were furtive eyes, giving her the dangerous aspect of a stray dog or maybe some kind of rat-the eyes of a craven, desperate survivor.
Winding veins of some kind of green-black energy pulsed beneath her skin, particularly around the inside bend of her left arm. The writhing strings of energy ended at the surface of her skin, in dozens of tiny, mindlessly opening and closing little mouths-the needle tracks I'd seen the night before. Her right hand kept darting back and forth over the other arm as if trying to scratch a persistent itch. But her fingers couldn't touch. There was a kind of sheath of sparkling motes around her hands, almost like mittens, and she couldn't actually touch those mindlessly hungry mouths. Worse, there were what looked almost like burn marks on her temples- small, black, neat holes, as if someone had bored a hot needle through the skin and skull beneath. There was a kind of phantom blood around the injuries, but her eyes were wide and vague, as if she didn't even notice them. What the hell? I had seen the victims of spiritual attacks before, and they'd never been pretty. Usually they looked like the victim of a shark attack, or someone who had been mauled by a bear. I hadn't ever seen someone with damage like Rosie's. It looked almost like some kind of demented surgeon had gone after her with a laser scalpel. That pushed the weirdometer a couple of clicks beyond the previous record.
My head started pounding and I pushed the Sight away. I leaned my hip against the wall for a second and rubbed at my temples until the throbbing subsided and I was sure that my normal vision had returned.
"Rosie," I said, cutting into the middle of one of Murphy's questions. "When was your last fix?"
Murphy glanced over her shoulder at me, frowning. Behind her, the girl gave me a guilty look, her eyes shifting to one side. "What do you mean?" Rosie asked.
"I figure it's heroin," I said. I kept my voice pitched to the barest level needed to be audible. "I saw the tracks on you last night."
"I'm diab-" she began.
"Oh please," I said, and let the annoyance show in my voice. "You think I'm that stupid?"
"Harry," Murphy began. There was a warning note in her voice, but my head hurt too much to let it stop me.
"Miss Marcella, I'm trying to help you. Just answer the question."
She was silent for a long moment. Then she said, "Two weeks."
Murphy arched a brow, and her gaze went back to the girl.
"I quit," she said. "Really. I mean, once I heard that I was pregnant… I can't do that anymore."
"Really?" I asked.
She looked up and her eyes were direct, though nothing like confident. "Yes. I'm done with it. I don't even miss it. The baby's more important than that."
I pursed my lips and then nodded. "All right."
"Miss Marcella," Murphy said, "thank you for your time."
"Wait," she said, as Murphy turned away. "Please. No one will tell us anything about Ken. Do you know how he's doing? What room he's in?"
"Ken's your boyfriend?" Murphy asked in a careful tone.
"Yes. I saw them load him in the ambulance last night. I know he's here…" Rosie stared at Murphy for a second, and then her face grew even more pale. "Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no."
I was glad I'd gotten a gotten a look at her before she found out about her boyfriend. My imagination provided me with a nice image of watching the emotional wounds open up as though an invisible sword had begun slicing into her, but at least I didn't have to see it with my Sight, too.
"I'm very sorry," Murphy said quietly. Her voice was steady, her eyes compassionate.
Molly picked that moment to return with a cup of coffee. She took one look at Rosie, put the coffee down, and then hurried to her. Rosie broke down in choking sobs. Molly immediately sat on the bed beside her, and hugged her while she wept.
"We'll be in touch," Murphy said quietly. "Come on, Harry."
Mouse stared at Rosie with a mournful expression, and I had to tug on his leash a couple of times to get him moving. We departed and headed for the nearest stairwell. Murphy headed for ICU, which was in the neighboring building.
"I didn't see the track marks on her last night," she said after a minute. "You pushed her pretty hard."
"Yes."
"Why?"
"Because it might mean something. I don't know what, yet. But we didn't have time to waste listening to her denial."
"She wasn't straight with you," Murphy said. "No one kicks heroin that fast. Two weeks. She should still be feeling some of the withdrawal."
Molly was there both times. Mouse was there the second time.
She'll remember. Dresden is memorable.
Rosie wasn't a practitioner then. She wants to meet practitioners, and Harry is one, a sure one a at that. A better, more experienced one, but, and this is important, with different talents than Rosie. He would be both cool to talk with, and not completely overshadowing her successes with his casual mastery.

Lydia is the only other safe supernatural we know, but Lydia can just as easily visit her at home with us.
Lydia is a terrible choice. She not a mortal magic user. You could as well invite Maeve or something. As far as meeting other practitioners, Lydia should not be the first choice at all.

We own the Mercedes outright, legally.
We bought it publicly at auction in our name, and its registered in our name at the DMV.
No reason not to use it at times like this
"Young lady, where did you get the money for this car?" Is not a question we want to answer right now to noisy muggle parents.
 
[X] Refuse, you do not want to risk her getting into trouble with her mother because of something you did. Their relationship feels like it si fragile enough as it is
 
At the very lest I am going to have to take a serious nerf bat to it before I hand it to you guys. I do not like retroactive nerfs, I feel it cheapens the experience for the players so I want to be sure it is reasonably balanced before I let divination out of the bag.
At the first look, quick and dirty solution would be capping the effects at three dots - things don't get really silly until 4+ dots "I know everything about anything at will."

At three dots you still know A Lot, About Many Things, but mostly about things that aren't hidden and aren't terribly removed, chronologically, from the current point.

Lydia is a terrible choice. She not a mortal magic user. You could as well invite Maeve or something. As far as meeting other practitioners, Lydia should not be the first choice at all.
Eh. Newborn terrestrial is not too far removed from human. She also doesn't have any obvious inhuman tells, unlike, say, Molly and her freezing aura.
 
You know, rereading how Rosie described how she quit heroin to save/keep her unborn baby when we actually know that Molly mind controlled her to do it, I have to wonder if she would actually originally have wanted to have the child and raise it afterwards, or whether Molly accidentally imposed the pro-life views she was brought up with and that 'you must keep/protect your child' logic also made Rosie believe that mother should raise her child as a sub-part of the mind control to protect the child…

I could easily see it if that was part of the command that Molly gave to make her quit heroin 'You must quit heroin so you can keep your child' could easily mandate both halves of the statement without Molly realising it.

That could also be why it's impossible for Rosie to talk to her mother and step-father. If they keep trying to persuade her to give up the child for adoption and she has an imperative implanted in her brain that makes that literally unthinkable, then it could produce very challenging behaviour when they try. Particularly if she would otherwise be tempted to and then keeps running into the Mind control.
 
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[X] Refuse, you do not want to risk her getting into trouble with her mother because of something you did. Their relationship feels like it si fragile enough as it is

That went okay. I meant to have a write in for that last vote, but couldn't get something worth posting together before I had to handle other stuff. Sorry about that.

On the current one, it seems like a pretty clear cut case to me.

She wants to go out and explore stuff, but we both lack actual places to take her and even trying would make her situation worse. Bringing in Lydia for a visit seems like a good middle ground; she's been in the supernatural all her life, so she's probably got all kinds of interesting stuff to share.

Unrelated to that, oneiromancy looks pretty neat. Not really a good combat path, but Rosie doesn't need to be able to murder vampires.

Unlike a lot of options, it has some really interesting story potential at dot one. Touching another's dreams usually wouldn't be that impactful on its own but I'd give it good odds Rosie's first target will be her kid, supposing they're a valid target.
 
We are all teenage girls here.
Indulging in some minor rebellion is good for heart and soul, no matter the rational arguments against it.
Fucking up a person's relationship with their family for the lols is not some minor rebellion.
Especially since our PC does not get to bear the brunt of any consequences.

Rosie has chosen to be a mother. And Molly is a nascent Demon Empress with minions whose welfare depends on her.
We arent all carefree teenage girls now.
Our actions have consequences for others.
  1. OOC Divination has the issue of being too strong in ways that are not that fun, a narrative headache
  2. IC the more I thought about her circumstances the more it made sense for her to be dreamseeing. She specifically saw Arctis Tor and Molly's Exaltation while dreaming not the future, not the past, events in the Nevernever as they happened that night. Plus it has more potential for future hooks relating to Molly's own nightmares and [REDACTED FOR SPOILERS] :V
1)Fair.

2)Looking up stuff reminded me we still have unfinished business from the Fetch attack
-Drea Becton(psychic injury, derangement after fetch attack, committed to hospital)
-Nelson Lenhardt(derangement after Molly's black macgic)
-Ken's family

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
-Rosie is ~4months pregnant now. Due date should be January-ish.
OOC, is the child Nelson or Ken's? Because I remember the reason Molly and Nelson broke up was because he and Rosie had sex while under the influence of drugs. Both stoned out of their minds.

-Does Ken have siblings? Or was he an only child?
Because if Rosie is carrying his kid, his mother probably has a right to know.
At the first look, quick and dirty solution would be capping the effects at three dots - things don't get really silly until 4+ dots "I know everything about anything at will." At three dots you still know A Lot, but mostly about things that aren't hidden and aren't terribly removed, chronologically, from the current point.
I can see the QM's point about high level Divination.
And I'm of the opinion that Scrying is a lot more useful to Molly anyway.
 
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Rose of Autumn seems like a reasonably safe option to take Rosie with us.

Not like a minor practicioner would be a serious threat to her or us and if things do seem to get more involved we can bring our friend home before trying to solve problems the Exalted way.
 
Fucking up a person's relationship with their family for the lols is not some minor rebellion.
Especially since our PC does not get to bear the brunt of any consequences.

Rosie has chosen to be a mother. And Molly is a nascent Demon Empress with minions whose welfare depends on her.
We arent all carefree teenage girls now.
Our actions have consequences for others.

1)Fair.

2)Looking up stuff reminded me we still have unfinished business from the Fetch attack
-Drea Becton(psychic injury, derangement after fetch attack, committed to hospital)
-Nelson Lenhardt(derangement after Molly's black macgic)
-Ken's family

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
-Rosie is ~4months pregnant now.
OOC, is the child Nelson or Ken's? Because I remember the reason Molly and Nelson broke up was because he and Rosie had sex while under the influence of drugs. Both stoned out of their minds.

-Does Ken have siblings? Or was he an only child?
Because if Rosie is carrying his kid, his mother probably has a right to know.

I can see the QM's point about high level Divination.
And I'm of the opinion that Scrying is a lot more useful to Molly anyway.

The child is Nelson's, Rosie is sure because it is the only way the date of conception lines up. She told Molly this previously, in tears. That is when she asked 'how' Rosie answered, more or less, 'heroin' and the rest was black magic.
 
I can see the QM's point about high level Divination.
It is hard not to; one could argue that 5 dots outperforms the crown. At 6, it definitively does. In a game where Crown is supposed to be a Big Deal, that's not great.
The child is Nelson's, Rosie is sure because it is the only way the date of conception lines up. She told Molly this previously, in tears. That is when she asked 'how' Rosie answered, more or less, 'heroin' and the rest was black magic.
I am starting to suspect that child is gonna need either VEE or someone with a bunch of healing dots to look over it after it is born. That really doesn't sounds good.
 
Rose of Autumn seems like a reasonably safe option to take Rosie with us.
Not like a minor practicioner would be a serious threat to her or us and if things do seem to get more involved we can bring our friend home before trying to solve problems the Exalted way.
You dont take a squishy to a meet with someone you dont know.
And you are making assumptions about Rose of Autumn being a minor practitioner. She might be as minor a practitioner as Mortimer Lindqvist or Binder.

Or not a practitioner at all; there's a nonzero chance they are a Whampire, or several Whampires using the same internet ID, who were assigned the job of lurking online and quietly sabotaging Pathfinder attempts at recruitment.
Fomor are competition, after all.

We arent the only person who can lurk online under a pseudonym.
The child is Nelson's, Rosie is sure because it is the only way the date of conception lines up. She told Molly this previously, in tears. That is when she asked 'how' Rosie answered, more or less, 'heroin' and the rest was black magic.
Thank you.
 
Fucking up a person's relationship with their family for the lols is not some minor rebellion.
Especially since our PC does not get to bear the brunt of any consequences.

Rosie has chosen to be a mother. And Molly is a nascent Demon Empress with minions whose welfare depends on her.
We arent all carefree teenage girls now.
Our actions have consequences for others.
We can cover for most of the consequences.

Mostly I just disagree with the idea that we can't be carefree teenage girls just because we are a nascent demon empress.

This is harmless enough, no matter how things fall out. If her parents are halfway decent people then a bit of teenage rebellion ( with absolutly no drugs involved) won't hurt their relationship.
And if not she's better off with some distance to them anyway, which we can easily provide.
 
You dont take a squishy to a meet with someone you dont know.
And you are making assumptions about Rose of Autumn being a minor practitioner. She might be as minor a practitioner as Mortimer Lindqvist or Binder.

Or not a practitioner at all; there's a nonzero chance they are a Whampire, or several Whampires using the same internet ID, who were assigned the job of lurking online and quietly sabotaging Pathfinder attempts at recruitment.
Fomor are competition, after all.

We arent the only person who can lurk online under a pseudonym.
She seemed harmless enough over the internet.

And if not, we sre almost certainly the bigger fish anyway. A Whampire or moderatly powerful minor practicioner would need some pretty extreme rolls to attack someone under our protection, in our presence, without good reason or provocation.
We have gotten quite good at deathglaring.
 
Rose of Autumn seems like a reasonably safe option to take Rosie with us.

Not like a minor practicioner would be a serious threat to her or us and if things do seem to get more involved we can bring our friend home before trying to solve problems the Exalted way.
We don't even know her real name, and will basically be scaring the shit out of her by tracking her down at all,

Really not the sort of situation we want to introduce more complications to.

We are all teenage girls here.
Indulging in some minor rebellion is good for heart and soul, no matter the rational arguments against it.
This isn't a situation that has a lot of give in it for stuff like this.

Given all the shit she had to deal with, Rosie is better served acting more like the adult she has to start being now rather than the teenager she is.

We cannot and should not tell her what to do, but enabling things that will clearly cause her trouble isn't really what a good friend should be doing.

We should instead counter offer texting Lydia to see if she's willing to get involved by coming for a visit, so that Rosie can get what she wants without any (or at least as many) of the consequences.
 
I am starting to suspect that child is gonna need either VEE or someone with a bunch of healing dots to look over it after it is born. That really doesn't sounds good.
Eh
Heroin use doesnt seem to have any associated birth defects, unlike alcohol.
And she's actually stopped.

We'll see I guess.
We can cover for most of the consequences.
Mostly I just disagree with the idea that we can't be carefree teenage girls just because we are a nascent demon empress.

This is harmless enough, no matter how things fall out. If her parents are halfway decent people then a bit of teenage rebellion ( with absolutly no drugs involved) won't hurt their relationship.
And if not she's better off with some distance to them anyway, which we can easily provide.
We really cant.Especially because we are the source of some of those consequences.
Those Enemy ratings on our character sheet arent there for show, and they deal splash damage. Our mudane friends dont get angel details for when the Fallen and their agents show up.

It isnt harmless.
An eighteen year old recovering addict and black magic victim with a fraught relationship with her parents does not need further exacerbating factors to damage one of the few relationships she still has; drug use and the fetches destroyed most of the rest.

And they would have genuine reason to be mad if Rosie abandoned her minor siblings to go out while no other adults were around.
You want to be a parent? Fine. Act like it.
Goes some way to convincing other people you are ready to shoulder the responsibilities you say you want.
She seemed harmless enough over the internet.

And if not, we sre almost certainly the bigger fish anyway. A Whampire or moderatly powerful minor practicioner would need some pretty extreme rolls to attack someone under our protection, in our presence, without good reason or provocation.
We have gotten quite good at deathglaring.
"Welcome to the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents."
Molly seemed harmless over the Internet. :V

Our being the bigger fish just means we'll survive. Nothing more.
It makes no guarantees about friends and family and property damage or reputation.
I thought we learned that lesson about underestimating people we dont have a good look at with the malks a few updates ago.
 
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Though I admit I would have felt better about the situation with a proper AoE option like Sandstrike Blast.
Spattering Grease Reprisal is prolly better, tbh. We soak good, therefore its godly.

That said, it might be a bit too big of a power jump. IDK, we have been purposefully avoiding making Molly effectively invincible to street-level DF shenanigans, and SGR is one of those 4 dot combat charms that really change things.

@fictionfan if you are still looking for decent signature charms, SGR signature is also decent, if only because it makes a good temporary charm "always-on".
 
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@fictionfan if you are still looking for decent signature charms, SGR signature is also decent, if only because it makes a good temporary charm "always-on".
But it also makes it aoe instead of just punishing the attacker which can be a problem in group battles. Also we just generally want more from a sig then just saving us 2 motes occasionally.
 
[X] Refuse, you do not want to risk her getting into trouble with her mother because of something you did. Their relationship feels like it si fragile enough as it is
 
But it also makes it aoe instead of just punishing the attacker which can be a problem in group battles. Also we just generally want more from a sig then just saving us 2 motes occasionally.
No, it does nothing else aside from making it cost nothing in Shintai form. There are no AoE effects, just reflexive counter-attacks every time something hits us. 40 malks hit us, we hit back every single one of them.

It is a signature carried purely by the strength of the primary charm. If your primary combat style is reliant on refreshing SPR every [essence+1] turns, it becomes a major essence guzzler.

That said, if DP actually approves Mana Control:Essence Version, silly and wonderful things are going to happen to our essence pool, so idk.
 
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[X] Refuse, you do not want to risk her getting into trouble with her mother because of something you did. Their relationship feels like it is fragile enough as it is
-[x] Molly sighed. "Aren't you babysitting the little ones? " She asked, sitting on the bed.
-[x] "Look, you need to take care of them, but as soon as I can figure something out, I'll introduce you to Harry and show you around."
 
[X] Refuse, you do not want to risk her getting into trouble with her mother because of something you did. Their relationship feels like it si fragile enough as it is
 
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