Well, we could've been worse, as said earlier, we could have decided to use Angela as inspiration for our body, or worse, Carmen, that one would've been very awkward, especially since we don't know the shady things she does nowadays, only the image of a saint Ayin had of her.
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Well, we could've been worse, as said earlier, we could have decided to use Angela as inspiration for our body, or worse, Carmen, that one would've been very awkward, especially since we don't know the shady things she does nowadays, only the image of a saint Ayin had of her.
ObservadorCha
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[X] The Truth
Dragonmaster150
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-[X] "Are you sure you want to know?"
-[X] "Are you sure you want to know?"
Lurker183839
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Wasn't it the Script, considering it's implied that it's Ayin telling X to fade away without a trace?
Anyway, regarding the vote:
1a: If it's OOC, the option wouldn't be offered, we've already seen an example of that previously
1b: It being a IC choice does not necessarily mean that we will like the consequences OOC
1c: However, no matter how it goes, we will have a Distortion shaped problem to bury the immediate reactions (that of telling, or of the thought process leading not to say anything) under once we go back
1d: Owing to this, do we want to speak (and deal with the impact of Angela's reaction) or not (and deal with the possible awkwardness and the potential second-guessing in the future)? The next opportunity is in an indeterminate time in the future, after all
2: On one hand, we've told the girls, who we consider to be our family, why not Angela too?
On the other, a not-insignificant part of that decision was because they objectively needed to know, even if they can't fully understand; that does not apply to Angela.
(However, in the long term this WILL have to come out eventually anyway, can't have a Patron Librarian without settling the full details of this I imagine)
3: It's fairly likely Angela will understand if we tell her or if we say we don't want to talk about it either way, but deflecting will have costs (not that anyone is voting for that).
However. Trust has to start from somewhere, does it not? Might we use this as the springboard?
I personally think that if we tell her the spaghetti quota in the next update is going to be entirely filled by X
, so we won't need to worry about Angela putting her foot in her mouth there (as mentioned, it's likely she already knows, but the fine details like X being incomplete and being able to draw out EGO does have implications as to what to do next on Angela's side).
Lurker183839
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Like, if you think about it, these few updates are basically this on loop:
Maybe with this we could ensure this loop no longer remains true afterwards for X and Angela? It's entertaining* to read and all, but very much not so for them...
questioningmeme
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Aka. We'll be fineeeeeeee.
This will definitely only benefit us, and we won't be blindsided by a left and right hook from an opponent we have basically no idea about.
This will definitely only benefit us, and we won't be blindsided by a left and right hook from an opponent we have basically no idea about.
Lurker183839
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Pretty sure QB didn't join us (although he may or may not be interested in Dimensional Travel now); and we can't do anything about Carmen yet?
If anything, speaking further is the way to get clues about what we can do to Carmen (opens up future discussions on X's current state and all)
Or are we going to get Furioso'd next update?
Nottheunmaker
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Because discussing why an action is or isn't being taken matters. It gives insight to other people's thoughts and views. It can generate new information, and new information can change votes.
Besides, I've seen bigger turn arounds.
I despise the idea that trust can bought with secrets. It's cynical and manipulative. Trust is earned with actions that show you care, or are trustworthy.
questioningmeme
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I dunno man. Sounds like secrets can also be included in that very wide, broad and general description.
Lurker183839
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Sometimes a requirement to be trusted is to trust first, though? Especially with a relationship as strained as this
questioningmeme
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Not exactly strained. More...awkward.
Lurker183839
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Step 1: Agonize about what to say next, or perhaps stick with empty words?
Step 2: Actually Say Something (change steps depending on response)
Step 3a: Oh, things haven't exploded yet, great
Step 3b: *The sound of shattered expectations rings out"
Step 4: Unless time's up, go back to step 1
Nottheunmaker
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True, but it's how it's used that matters. Admittedly this is a very I Know It When I See It matter. And I doubt this vote is cynically intentioned. Just grinds my gears when I see it talked about like this.
Doesn't help that i feel a strong disconnect between X and the player base here. Angela made a leading statement and we're now picking X's reaction. Out Of Character, the greater majority of the thread already trusts Angela. They don't have sense of vulnerability. Sure, they can see it as a step forward for X, but since the people behind the decision see it as a forgone conclusion or a way to win Angela's trust, while giving very little thought to X's feelings? Bah. Rubs me the wrong way.
questioningmeme
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It is not out of character if it is a decision given to us.
As for caring very little about X's feelings...
That is also true. But X herself cares very little about her own feelings too. IC, the decision could easily be X gathering the courage and pushing past her uncomfortableness regarding this topic.
Again. Nyarky is right.
We aren't forcing X to do anything. This is a vote for her decision.
Kalibrius
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Admittedly I am viewing Xs perspective as much as I can from what I can gather and see from it, it admittedly keeps coming up to one thing
Worry and "She likely already has an idea of the truth, best give her full context so no misconceptions can form even if its uncomfortable. She's my sibling, if I can't trust her.... who can I?"
Worry and "She likely already has an idea of the truth, best give her full context so no misconceptions can form even if its uncomfortable. She's my sibling, if I can't trust her.... who can I?"
So you think that showing someone you trust them is not good? Because that's a pretty valid reason to tell one of your secrets to someone, and I don't see how it is cynical to tell someone you trust them enough to be emotionally vulnerable in front of them.
I don't see that disconnect, X trusts Angela too, it was clear in this update and it is easy to infer from their old relation anyway, plus, our very first vote was about this, and we chose to be hopeful about her stealing the light, I don't see why X wouldn't want to gain Angela's trust.
And the only way you'd have to see if all the voters weren't thinking of X's feelings would be to be in all their heads, which you aren't.
questioningmeme
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Very awkward. Verryy~ awkward.
But she'd be super cool with her after a short time.
We should make absolutely sure to tell Gebura that she was also Nothing There's go to for *who I want to be*, just to make sure to get the maximum awkwardness, actually, we should try to get a way to use negative enkephalin and hook it to ourself before doing that, should give us a lot of it.
questioningmeme
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I think Gebura probably already knows NT's obsession with her. I mean, she has to work with the damn thing 24/7.We should make absolutely sure to tell Gebura that she was also Nothing There's go to for *who I want to be*, just to make sure to get the maximum awkwardness, actually, we should try to get a way to use negative enkephalin and hook it to ourself before doing that, should give us a lot of it.
What we should tell her, is that NT sees her as it's great dommy mommy.
Lurker183839
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Execution bullets: MG edition?
I mean, we are his companion's sibling of indeterminate gender. It's understandable that he would worry, considering how that sort of relationship turned out last time...Or are we going to get Furioso'd next update?