Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Thats the thing: They could.
But they generally arent, because most people recognize the risk of escalation.
Those that do nibble around the edges and dont do anything big.

Consider Mab being able to throw 20 dice at convincing Molly, without any backup or preparation.
If she bothered to pull in Sidhe experts and preparation for an actual social campaign, consider how it would turn out for her.
Or just bestowed blessings on a bunch of advertising firms to do the social campaign for her.

We are not a Big Fish yet, and a lot of people underestimate the rest of the setting.
That is missing half the point. Whatever we are writing or producing shouldn't be getting Mab to pull out all her resources to try to crush because we aren't going to pick a propaganda fight with her anymore then we are going to pick a sword fight.

Instead we use it as another weapon to work on the goals we already have. If we are fighting the red court we go after them not just with our weapons, but also our words.

More so I would like to start things early. Reputations take time to cultivate. Grab a few dots in Expression soon and then use our difficulty reducers to write books that are merely very good, by mortal scale. Enough that our name (or pen name) is known and when we do start throwing out the big social attacks people will be seeded to listen.

And it's a great way to make money too. More then we could make from a lottery in the long term.

The key word is "Yet".

Eventually we can be doing big things. World peace. Preparing the world for the release of exaltations. Etc. Just like eventually we can be fighting gods and dragons.
 
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I dont agree.

Just by existing as a force in being, they change the supernatural power balance, and Molly's place in it. That has second- and third- order effects on the mortal world, just indirectly. Not to mention that they provide IC justification for the Backup Background, a Resources 10(My Personal Hell) and a secondary internment site for prisoners and HVTs that isnt Demonreach.

There's a whole group of plots that would need reworking just because they came into being.

I fully expect them to establish a presence in the mortal world, along the lines of the embassies the svartalfar have.
In Chicago, and elsewhere.
Kinda like a Technocracy construct from Mage, actually.

But its one thing to have immediate ramifications on the supernatural just by existing.
Quite another to actively attempt to change mortal society in defiance of the status quo and all the other Powers out there, mortal amd otherwise, within a handful of years of showing up.

I mean, our Realm/Hell will have officially existed for less than half a decade by the timeline of Battlegrounds.
Young nations usually dont have particularly aggressive foreign policy outreach.
Too busy settling shit at home. But other people have to consider that they could.
So the charm that constitutes the main focal point of the type needs us to pay to get it, then pay to use it for almost anything, and still mostly exists as a trick played on everyone else? You don't exist as a force in being if you never interact with anything.

I'm not saying it should be totally unrestricted, but that the nerds on the implications of having it shouldn't be so profound that we can't tell the difference between having a hell and having a charm that takes us on vision quest through a dream of one.
 
It kinda does mean that. Urban fantasy setting, not epic fantasy. And in modern society at that.
The issue is that this breaks down as we improve and increase in power. A lot of stuff in our charmset is designed to change the setting, break the masquerade (or at least facilitate such breaking), etc. And that's very much the intent of how exalts were designed. Especially in ExvsWoD. The exalts aren't meant to be another new faction that mucks around in the shadows. They are designed to break the setting over their knee, flip over the table, drag conspiracies into the light and stop the apocalypse.

Yes, this isn't WoD (though which setting has higher power levels, at least outside of the arbitrarily high numbers on Uriel's damage output sheet, is arguable). Yes, we are only one exalt, and the black vault is closed still. But the point remains. If the exalt can't affect large scale change, and is only preserving the status quo, they are doing it wrong.

Or just bestowed blessings on a bunch of advertising firms to do the social campaign for her.
Remember, we only have one bureaucratic charm. But with that charm, we can hit the entire Winter court. Multiple times at that. We shouldn't, but we could.

Mab came at us with everything she had per QM. Yes, with prep, she could do more. But, overall, if we specialize in social actions, I would put money on us, not on her (or her whole court) in a social conflict.

You said it yourself:
We are not a Big Fish yet, and a lot of people underestimate the rest of the setting.
The keyword here is yet.
I dont consider the juice to be worth the squeeze.
My opinion.
Fair enough, but I'd like to point out that in canon Dresden Files, large scale changes are happening in the background. Starting from Paranet, which essentially created a new faction of low powered practioners, and then from Changes on, where in the background South America is going through regime changes and social upheaval. And, if I recall correctly, the setting is moving towards masquerade breaking.
Eventually we can be doing big things. World peace. Preparing the world for the release of exaltations. Etc. Just like eventually we can be fighting gods and dragons.
This. Very much this. We aren't going global any time soon, but let's just consider our plans right now:

1) Rebuild the spirit's home in the Underground of Chicago, and claim the Dragon's Nest. This is urban renovation and it creates a new place of power in a city that is hotbed for global powers. At the very least local community will be affected

2) Using Mercy in Servitude, Lord of Flies, and Demonic Primacy of Essence, take over local Underground around the Dragon's Nest. Recruit Whamps there, affect changes in their lives. This is quite literally us becoming a mayor of shanty town. Or at least a mafia boss. Or a cult leader. Or whatever. The point is - this is bringing change to local community. Change that will spread, as people from out of town will learn of it. Some will try to muscle in. Some will want what we are offering - Mercy in Servitude is going to affect certain factions a lot, really.

3) Getting our kingdom. If we are talking Fiverfold Courts of Fate, that's a billion+ nation with technology in advance of what the world has. Yes, it's not exactly open to the world. Yes, there won't be trains running in and out of our soul with trade goods. But simply by exporting stuff like computer software, magic knowledge, etc., we'll be affecting change on the global scale, both in the mundane and magical world. We'd be a faction then, standing on equal-ish grounds with White Council. With fewer representatives in the "real" world, yes, but still.

And let's not forget that we already provided Mab with a new necromancer hunter she didn't have in canon, thus changing the course of history.
 
That is missing half the point. Whatever we are writing or producing shouldn't be getting Mab to pull out all her resources to try to crush because we aren't going to pick a propaganda fight with her anymore then we are going to pick a sword fight.

Instead we use it as another weapon to work on the goals we already have. If we are fighting the red court we go after them not just with our weapons, but also our words.

More so I would like to start things early. Reputations take time to cultivate. Grab a few dots in Expression soon and then use our difficulty reducers to write books that are merely very good, by mortal scale. Enough that our name (or pen name) is known and when we do start throwing out the big social attacks people will be seeded to listen.
1)Mab alone would not need to spend more than a fraction of her available resources.
She has had a thousand years to build connections.

And Mab is far from the only supernatural party who might have interests in preventing a new player from destabilizing a relatively stable situation in the middle of a Nemesis offensive, from Titania and Summer to the White and Jade Courts to whatever factions are original or imports from WoD. Even the US govt's occult aware factions and the Archive have interests in information control.

Hell, Nemesis could well weigh in on either side just to stir suspicion and chaos.

2)You dont fight the Red Court with words. They have no obvious special vulnerabilities that can be spread about, like the Blampires. The heart of their power is in Latin America, where they are pretty well entrenched. Digging them out and breaking their power is primarily a hard power problem, not a soft power one.

And it's a great way to make money too. More then we could make from a lottery in the long term.
Published author royalties range from 10-20% per book after the publisher has recouped their costs, including the advance.
If you are a very successful author and sell 200,000 copies of a hardback in a year at an average fifteen dollars apiece, and get 10% of the list price after publisher costs, that comes around to a gross take of $300,000 that year.

There's movie and TV right options, but very few of those actually go through.

By comparison.
3% returns on an invested lottery win of 30 million is a yearly return of a million dollars, and the stock market has averaged closer to 7-8% yearly over the last couple decades, which would be around two point seven million dollars per. And it compounds on itself.

Very few books or book series will see anything like the money a lottery winner makes.
Mr Butcher is accounted a very successful author, and according to the NYT as of 2011 he had sold 6.5 million copies as of the publication of Changes, which was the 12th book in the series.

Phenomena like the Harry Potter series, Twilight and the Katniss books are rare for a reason.
And because they are rare, their authors and the authors lives draw inordinate attention.
Which is....inconvenient. Just ask GRRM.

Nevertheless, you dont go into writing because you expect to get rich.
The key word is "Yet".
Eventually we can be doing big things. World peace. Preparing the world for the release of exaltations. Etc. Just like eventually we can be fighting gods and dragons.
Uh.
Thats getting way ahead of ourselves. The first is never going to happen because People.
The second assumes facts not currently in evidence, to wit, the existence of other Exaltations here.

So the charm that constitutes the main focal point of the type needs us to pay to get it, then pay to use it for almost anything, and still mostly exists as a trick played on everyone else? You don't exist as a force in being if you never interact with anything.

I'm not saying it should be totally unrestricted, but that the nerds on the implications of having it shouldn't be so profound that we can't tell the difference between having a hell and having a charm that takes us on vision quest through a dream of one.
The Darkhallow wouldnt have been considered if there was a Hell adjacent to Chicago to put a rapid reaction force in the city at half an hour's notice. Ditto the murders of White Night.

The entire plot of Turncoat would have taken a very different turn if Dresden could ask us to stash Morgan away somewhere he couldnt be reached, and if the skinwalker had walked into a demon blade dealing Agg.
Let alone the Denarians showing up in Chicago for Small Favor.

Changes would have started with Molly dropping into Mexico for a rescue mission a couple hours after Susan showed up, and ended with a scorched earth punitive strike on Chitchen Itza with a brigade of troops, not just the Grey Council and the kenku that McCoy brought with him.

And having an actual qualified hospital and trauma center available to Molly 24/7 that will take in her allies on her personal cognizance makes a significant change.
There are multiple canon plots that get hard derailed just by the presence of Molly's personal Hell.

And that doesnt count things like having an option for dealing with things other than shooting warlocks in the face, or a population that might be equipped for accomodating ghouls. Or a safe place for ritual magics or to store sensitive stuff away from the eyes of the Feds and Mab and Titania and random wyldfae.

Just by existing it pays for itself.
 
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2)You dont fight the Red Court with words. They have no obvious special vulnerabilities that can be spread about, like the Blampires. The heart of their power is in Latin America, where they are pretty well entrenched. Digging them out and breaking their power is primarily a hard power problem, not a soft power one.
The issue is "what comes next". Let's say we destroy Red Court. If we didn't make preparations prior to that, then the social instability afterwards would be bad. If we aren't in position to either take over ourselves, or make it so the nations of the area can stand up for themselves. This takes laying the groundwork beforehand.
Thats getting way ahead of ourselves. The first is never going to happen because People.
"Uniting against common enemy" is like the first social rule to exist. And there are a lot of common enemies that can be used to glue nations of the world together.
Phenomena like the Harry Potter series, Twilight and the Katniss books are rare for a reason.
I think it's fair to say that we'll be writing with an excellency on. Two points in expression is 5 XP. I assume that writing is either intelligence, or manipulation. This gives us 10 or 12 dice with an excellency total. Tack on WHWH. That's 12 to 14 dice. Tack on BSM and CCC. That's what, difficulty 2? 3? Let's say 3. That would mean we would be rolling 10+ successes. And then there's a question of whether DPE affects creatures of darkness who read our books ( @DragonParadox would DPE affect creatures of darkness watching recordings of our speeches, reading books we write, or otherwise engaging with us socially remotely?).

Also, I think we should start writing not with fiction. We should start with textbooks. Possibly with a primer to supernatural. We have occult 5. And Bob. And Harry. I am fairly sure that we could write an "entry into the supernatural" book that would be very good. Also slanted towards whatever we think is good.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Nov 12, 2022 at 2:31 PM, finished with 92 posts and 12 votes.

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    --[X]Reflexive activation: Viridian Legend Exoskeleton + Melee Excellency : -2 Essence
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    --[X]Attack: Shield bash and pommelstrike gunman 1 into gunman 2 into the wall and floor
    --[X]STUNT:"....." Lydia's voice catches in her throat as she enters the room behind you.You feel...light, on your feet as your shield unfolds itself silently, while behind you Amoracchius comes to life in response to the badwrongforbidden aura in the room, a white counterpoint to your viridian green. As the alarms blare your eyes catalog the room's contents. The six victims in restraints silently screaming in their nightmares. The moving manipulator arm. The central tank.
 
Arc 3 Interlude 2: In Sight of Elder Things
In Sight of Elder Things

25st of July 2006 A.D.

Michael Carpenter has borne witness to horrors and wonders, he has seen with his own eyes some of the worst and the best of mankind, the work of hell and the grace of heaven, a piece of which he bore in his heart, and another in his hand, the Sword of Love. But not in all his days had he seen a sight like this.

Water was streaming down, from shattered pipes, from the fire extinguishers set off by some unseen hand and in the water fire danced, synthetic green that burned the eye to look upon and seared the mind and in the midst of that Molly leapt forward, no flew he realized a moment later, carried on the wings of her own rage as pieces of broken masonry fathered around her, caught in inescapable gravity.

Something was chanting, something old and dark and infinitely cruel, but it was not uttering curses but benedictions, writ in likes of fire as masonry and concrete, copper wiring and broken pipes became frescoes of broken glories, shattered idols set palm to head and eye to foot, a jigsaw by chance or mischance completed.

Lost 2 Essence -> Now at 6/12

Shots ring out muzzle flash orange against the unearthly green, the first go wild smashing into one of the lights, the second caught upon the face of a shield... an instant before that same shield strikes the man in the head with bone crushing force. Blood mingles with the water, staining the sterile floors as the other man gives a muffled groan. Molly's pummel had caught him in the throat. an ordinary man, perhaps even just a mortal man might have drawn back at the pain.

This was neither.

Even as the first guard's blood lapped around his ankles the man laughed and thew away his gun black metal claws exploding from his knuckles and he ranted: "I'm fucking Wolverine bitch!"

The claws ripped into Molly's shoulder, though the armor or stone, drawing blood.

Molly takes 2 Wounds (Now at 9/11)

At that moment Michael Carpenter could not have cared less what was written upon the stone nor what the words echoing from it meant. If it had not been for that armor she would have been a lot more hurt.

As he charged the knight felt the earth shake under his feet and out of the corner of his eye he caught the wave of concrete and earth that passed under the already unconscious guard to smash into the lab-coated fellow in the back. That'll give him something to worry about.

Working with Harry aside Michael was not used to fighting with quite this much magic on his side, but he could certainly adapt, taking advantage of the confusion and likely of being counted the least threat he hit 'fucking Wolverine' in the side of the head with the flat of Amoracchius. He knew that wouldn't kill him, a knowing of the hands as much as the mind.

Somehow the guard still didn't fall... and there were more of them coming from the back, three more men with guns an maybe other powers.

Lydia was by his side, the girl moving with the surety of one who had seen a thousand fights, her expression an eerie calm. "I can deal with the shots, you just keep going Mr Carpenter."

The fact that he was about to do just that, that he was going to allow a fifteen year old girl to jump in front a a bullet went against every instinct Michael had, every instinct except one which he had learned to trust the most when dark things were abroad in the world.

"Watch out!" Molly had turned, she was looking over his shoulder... at the tank in the middle of the room. One of the stray bullets had hit it leaving a single point of leprous silvery light like a pockmark on the face of the glass. Cracks raced across it circling the tank and then it shattered.

There was no sound of glass striking the floor, only the water still pouring down from on high, the pieces seem to twist sideways mid-air and fall elsewhere as from among them a ichthyic creature rose or perhaps unfolded The eye slid off it in revulsion seeing only disparate pieces, scaled flank and fleshy fur covered tail, the grasping tentacles of an octopus exploding from the center of its ponderous body, a walrus tusks set as a crown upon its hideously humanlike head

"It's trying to squeeze through! We need to beat it back!" Molly called out as the thing lunged towards them.

Threads of silver light twisted and cascaded along the water and the flames silver and green.

What do you do?

[] Write in.

OOC: And done, finally. Sorry for the wait guys, but between all the rolling and Michael being hard to get in the head of I could not finish last night.
 
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The issue is that this breaks down as we improve and increase in power. A lot of stuff in our charmset is designed to change the setting, break the masquerade (or at least facilitate such breaking), etc. And that's very much the intent of how exalts were designed. Especially in ExvsWoD. The exalts aren't meant to be another new faction that mucks around in the shadows. They are designed to break the setting over their knee, flip over the table, drag conspiracies into the light and stop the apocalypse.

Yes, this isn't WoD (though which setting has higher power levels, at least outside of the arbitrarily high numbers on Uriel's damage output sheet, is arguable). Yes, we are only one exalt, and the black vault is closed still. But the point remains. If the exalt can't affect large scale change, and is only preserving the status quo, they are doing it wrong.
1)Sure. But this is not WoD. The Fifth Age is not ending.
There is no current evidence there is a Black Vault here. No suggestion of Abyssals, thank God. No indication there are Dragonblooded clans or Solars, Lunars or other Infernals. There isnt an incipient Apocalypse here, thankfully, for all Nemesis efforts at making it so.

2)WoD is probably higher power. See the Week of Nightmares and the devastation of the Indian subcontinent for why. A vampire ancestor eats his way across half the subcontinent before fighting an entire sept of werewolves and three kuei-jin bodditsavas in the middle of a summoned typhoon, tanking multiple boosted nuclear bombs and finally ended by orbital solar laser satellites.

Millions dead. Bangladesh and large swathes of India wrecked. Coverup executed.
Remember, we only have one bureaucratic charm. But with that charm, we can hit the entire Winter court. Multiple times at that. We shouldn't, but we could.

Mab came at us with everything she had per QM. Yes, with prep, she could do more. But, overall, if we specialize in social actions, I would put money on us, not on her (or her whole court) in a social conflict.
You said it yourself:
1) Unfortunately, it does not say stackable in any part of the charm text. I say unfortunately, because we'd have bought it and started using on the Reds from our house and phone. So I dont think we can activate it multiple times on an ememy operation. We could use Curse when we get the Path, but no fiat backing, and I expect Sodhe sorcerers can deal with that.

2)According to Battlegrounds?
Mab has War charms. At least, whatever the Sidhe equivalent is. That we dont see Bureaucracy charm-equivalents doesnt mean they dont exist; the woman has been fighting a war for centuries, after all.


Fair enough, but I'd like to point out that in canon Dresden Files, large scale changes are happening in the background. Starting from Paranet, which essentially created a new faction of low powered practioners, and then from Changes on, where in the background South America is going through regime changes and social upheaval. And, if I recall correctly, the setting is moving towards masquerade breaking.
Low level changes whose full implications will only come clear in decades hence.

The Paranet does not exist yet. It was a significant change, but basically US only, which is like a twentieth of the human population.
South America unfortunately was already in turmoil because the Reds liked it that way; its more so as of the end of Changes, but we havent had an update since.

The masquerade doesnt really exist in Chicago any longer as of the end of Battlegrounds.
Outside it, yes.
 
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1)Sure. But this is not WoD. The Fifth Age is not ending.

There is no current evidence there is a Black Vault here. No suggestion of Abyssals, thank God. No indication there are Dragonblooded clans or Solars, Lunars or other Infernals. There isnt an incipient Apocalypse here, thankfully, for all Nemesis efforts at making it so.
That's not even true for canon Dresdenverse and you know it. Apocalypse is coming, the world will change. We could work to stop it from changing, yes, or we could seize the opportunity and direct the changes to the betterment of humanity.

Also, hard disagree that there are no indications. There is no direct proof yet, but there's plenty of evidence and indirect hints.
2)WoD is probably higher power. See the Week of Nightmares and the devastation of the Indian subcontinent for why. A vampire ancestor eats his way across half the subcontinent before fighting an entire sept of werewolves and three kuei-jin bodditsavas in the middle of a summoned typhoon, tanking multiple boosted nuclear bombs and finally ended by orbital solar laser satellites.

Millions dead. Bangladesh and large swathes of India wrecked. Coverup executed.
Yes. And the very clear intent in ExvsWoD design is for exalts to avert the dreary fate of the world, and make the next age a blessed one.
1) Unfortunately, it does not say stackable in any part of the charm text. I say unfortunately, because we'd have bought it and started using on the Reds from our house and phone. So I dont think we can activate it multiple times on an ememy operation. We could use Curse when we get the Path, but no fiat backing, and I expect Sodhe sorcerers can deal with that.
Even if they can't be stacked on the same organization, note that there's distinction between "office" and project. We can apply separate charms to "Red Court", "Chicago's nests of Red Court", "project: waging war on White Council" and "project: killing Harry Dresden".
The Paranet does not exist yet. It was a significant change, but basically US only, which is like a twentieth of the human population.
And if we do it, exalted style with beyond-legendary guide books for all ages, cyber devil admins and social networking tools, it would be more.
 
Okay, this is definitely a shintai fight.
Didnt realize they'd actually freed the Raksha from its prison and were fattening it up.
Even as the first guard's blood lapped around his ankles the man laughed and thew away his gun black metal claws exploding from his knuckles and he ranted: "I'm fucking Wolverine bitch!"
The claws ripped into Molly's shoulder, though the armor or stone, drawing blood.
Molly takes 2 Wounds (Now at 9/11)
Wait, wnat?

Molly was rolling an 18 dice on defence: Dex 4 + Melee 5 + Excellency 9.
And carrying a DC 4 shield for Parry.
How did he get through that? Is he actually Wolverine? :V

If these guys are rolling Exalted dice pools on the attack, it would be good to know.
Water was streaming down, from shattered pipes, from the fire extinguishers set off by some unseen hand and in the water fire danced, synthetic green that burned the eye to look upon and seared the mind and in the midst of that Molly leapt forward, no flew he realized a moment later, carried on the wings of her own rage as pieces of broken masonry fathered around her, caught in inescapable gravity.
Something was chanting, something old and dark and infinitely cruel, but it was not uttering curses but benedictions, writ in likes of fire as masonry and concrete, copper wiring and broken pipes became frescoes of broken glories, shattered idols set palm to head and eye to foot, a jigsaw by chance or mischance completed.
Gonna note:
VLE fluff said:
The Infernal calls forth the shattered masonry and brazen decorations of Lanka and forges them into armor which adorns her flesh like a second skin. Ancient demonic script glows faintly upon this shell, incoherently attempting to speak of the glories of the Demon City.
System: Reflexively spend 1 Essence to activate this Charm. The Infernal adds the highest of her Strength, Stamina, or Charisma to her soak rolls for the rest of the scene, but raises the difficulty of all Stealth attempts by +1 due to the glowing script that adorns her armor.
To wit:
Like I said, Asura's Wrath armor.
 
Okay, this is definitely a shintai fight.
Didnt realize they'd actually freed the Raksha from its prison and were fattening it up.

Wait, wnat?

Molly was rolling an 18 dice on defence: Dex 4 + Melee 5 + Excellency 9.
And carrying a DC 4 shield for Parry.
How did he get through that? Is he actually Wolverine? :V

With the way WoD works if you parry after your turn you are taking parries from the next turn at which point all you can do is parry because you are declaring 'I am fully reactive this turn.' With the number of soak dice she had that seemed unnecessary, but then she rolled low and he rolled high.
 
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I'm honestly impressed that that attack got through not just our ridiculously large Parry dice pool, but our 8 dice of difficulty 5 soak. Our expected average successes on a soak roll with VLE active is closer to 5 than 4. I thought that that would be enough for most things.

Ah well, Shintai brings our soak pool up to 14, and our expected soak successes up to 8 and change. That should be plenty for our needs for this fight.

Edit: and ninja'd by QM.
 
1)Mab alone would not need to spend more than a fraction of her available resources.
She has had a thousand years to build connections.

And Mab is far from the only supernatural party who might have interests in preventing a new player from destabilizing a relatively stable situation in the middle of a Nemesis offensive, from Titania and Summer to the White and Jade Courts to whatever factions are original or imports from WoD. Even the US govt's occult aware factions and the Archive have interests in information control.

Hell, Nemesis could well weigh in on either side just to stir suspicion and chaos.

2)You dont fight the Red Court with words. They have no obvious special vulnerabilities that can be spread about, like the Blampires. The heart of their power is in Latin America, where they are pretty well entrenched. Digging them out and breaking their power is primarily a hard power problem, not a soft power one.

Mab has just as many other concerns to occupy them though. And I don't think it would be so trivial even if she did put in the effort. Which she has little reason to do.
We don't need to De-stabilize things. We can stabilize things. Or just generally push them in the direction we want. As long as we can make it more effort to oppose us then go along with us.

You can very well fight the Red Court with words. Or rather you can fight their resource base, influence and control network. The point isn't to make it so vampire hunters are kicking down their doors. The point is to make it more inconvenient and difficult for them to operate. Stifle them and make society more resistant to them.

Published author royalties range from 10-20% per book after the publisher has recouped their costs, including the advance.
If you are a very successful author and sell 200,000 copies of a hardback in a year at an average fifteen dollars apiece, and get 10% of the list price after publisher costs, that comes around to a gross take of $300,000 that year.

There's movie and TV right options, but very few of those actually go through.

By comparison.
3% returns on an invested lottery win of 30 million is a yearly return of a million dollars, and the stock market has averaged closer to 7-8% yearly over the last couple decades, which would be around two point seven million dollars per. And it compounds on itself.

Very few books or book series will see anything like the money a lottery winner makes.
Mr Butcher is accounted a very successful author, and according to the NYT as of 2011 he had sold 6.5 million copies as of the publication of Changes, which was the 12th book in the series.

Phenomena like the Harry Potter series, Twilight and the Katniss books are rare for a reason.
And because they are rare, their authors and the authors lives draw inordinate attention.
Which is....inconvenient. Just ask GRRM.

Nevertheless, you dont go into writing because you expect to get rich.

Maybe you (or I) don't go into writing because you expect to get rich. But Molly the Exalted who can drop a bestseller tier book as an appetizer very well can. If we self publish or manage to get a better contract we can get significantly more then 10% too.

And well, unlike most people our skills are omni-discipline. Expression lends itself equally well to writing a movie script as a book.

We are going to be limited in how big a lottery we can win so it isn't completely obvious what we are doing. After all the taxes and other things that get cut out of lottery winnings I would be surprised if we had 30m.

We can only win a lottery once. We can keep writing books.

Uh.
Thats getting way ahead of ourselves. The first is never going to happen because People.
The second assumes facts not currently in evidence, to wit, the existence of other Exaltations here.
"Never going to happen" is an issue for someone who doesn't have an Exaltation.

Really though what I want is to just start taking some smaller steps in that direction. Expression 2 and an excellency would be cheap and would give us a powerful and useful tool.

And for a first book, maybe something which will teach (In principle not literal wording) the laws of magic? Even a small reduction in uninformed talents going warlock would have beneficial knock on effects. And a general moral of not abusing power would be good.

And oh update! Oh dear the tank is leaking. Maybe we can fix it? With Tool Constructs?
 
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Wait, wnat?

Molly was rolling an 18 dice on defence: Dex 4 + Melee 5 + Excellency 9.
And carrying a DC 4 shield for Parry.
How did he get through that? Is he actually Wolverine? :V

If these guys are rolling Exalted dice pools on the attack, it would be good to know.
We can't parry every attack against multiple foes, or we'll never get any attacking of our own done.
The penalties are harsh.
 
Anyway:

[X] Assume Shintai form
-[X] Focus on the raksha
--[X] Use the crown of eyes to learn raksha's biology and vulnerable spots
--[X] Use Green Sun Nimbus Flare when you hit it
-[X] Stunt: as everything goes to hell around you, and the horror before you is leaping towards your father and companion, you... pause. The breath escapes you, as you deny the possiblity of loss, the engine of cruel hate within your chest and soul switching gears and the world once again shatters, as your armor forms around you. With supernatural grace you move towards the monster, the... raksha, even as the eyes of your soul focus upon it, an image of its dissected body with major blood-analog vessels, tendons and the brain equivalent highlighted. As you strike, your sword ignites in green, poisonous and inescapable fire.

Raksha anatomy should be a magical secret. Replenish essence to make Green Sun Nimbus Flare essence neutral and to increase efficiency of targeting.

Okay, this is definitely a shintai fight.
Didnt realize they'd actually freed the Raksha from its prison and were fattening it up.
It might not be the raksha itself but some sort of its spawn. Or the tank might be a life support system (for now).
And for a first book, maybe something which will teach (In principle not literal wording) the laws of magic ? Even a small reduction in uninformed talents going warlock would have beneficial knock on effects. And a general moral of not abusing power would be good.
A guide to the supernatural book (two versions - one for those in the know, i.e. making a book for Rosie, and one for those not in the know - ie making something disguised as a novel) is a good idea, yes.
 
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As much as it would suck narrativly, we might want to leave the Raksha to Michael and Lydia.

We are by far the toughest member of our group, we can hold off the armed Formori for as long as it takes.

Meanwhile Micheal has a sword that is certain to work against the thing and Lydia can cover him with some defence and additional damage.

This whole situation is a complete failure if we manage to kill the Raksha only to look back and see that they gunned down our father.
 
A guide to the supernatural book (two versions - one for those in the know, i.e. making a book for Rosie, and one for those not in the know - ie making something disguised as a novel) is a good idea, yes.
I was thinking less a general guide and more something more specific. A generalized guide seems like it would be quite provocative. Maybe something for when we plan a big to change the world, but not as a first book.

Like, think of it this way. If someone who has read Harry Potter learns magic exists they are going to go in with certain assumptions. Even though they know Harry Potter is fiction.
So if we write a book or series or whatever, and bake into it's foundation "Do not abuse magic/powers by doing ___" . Then when anyone who has read our book learns about magic (or discovers their own) then they will be much more cautious about using it in ways that would break the laws of magic.

Like how someone who has watched or heard of PMMM would be much more skeptical and cautious about a cute little creature offering them a wish.
 
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[X] Hold the Line
-[X] Molly remains at the door, stopping the reinforcements from getting into the room where the big fight happens. Play it calm, if too many of them shoot at once take a step back and force them to come closer to the door where you can engage in melee. Do not hold back with the lethal damage.
-[X] Michael and Lydia take on the ancient monster.
-[X] Stunt: Everything inside you screams to fight the beast, wether to purge this thing that does not belong here from the world, or to claim the head of a unique monster as a trophy, all your instincts are in agreement that it should taste your blade. But you are nearly bulletproof and your dad is not. And it seems like most of the staff at this place was carrying, judging be the reinforcements coming down. So you stand your ground and parry the bullets, even as behind you the lights of Amorrachius and Lydia's silver aura overwhelm the tainted green light.

It sucks, I want to have a head crowned with a thousand horns on our mantlepiece, but I think this is the best plan to make sure we all live through this.
 
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