Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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So, Mab isn't a member of the Winter Court? Interesting, I remember the situation was different in the DF. Well, you consistently have been voting for Mab's appeasement, I suppose, I can't change your mind about the issue.
As I understand it; demonstrating the ability to escape Hell is the test to be 'elevated' into a Wan Kuei. The testing grounds that mortals took to become Wan Xian fell into the Hells and now damned souls can go through the trials in highly modified form. Being released by the Yama King inside isn't a test of ability required to qualify for what's a lot like a very cursed Exaltation.
Not everyone qualifies to become one of the Hungry Dead, you have to be exceptional.
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FriedIce
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The option literally says 'bow', that's a bit more than nodding respectfully.
Like, I'll happily vote for a write in that specifies we're to remain polite whilst picking a greeting that makes it clear we don't work for her.
Honestly, we should probably use a formal greeting from Ursum.
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[X] Trigger Impervious Primacy Mantle and stare her down, you will not bow your head to any who have not earned it on you, offer a neutral greeting
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Pretty sure it's an obvious joke.
FriedIce
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The point about Mab not being our enemy is that Mab is worth significantly more than a single dot. That's 4-5 dot territory.
It says bow your head.
Not genuflect, or curtsey, or bow from the waist.
Thats well within the respect range without implying we are subordinate.
The staredown is not.
Remember, we came to negotiate, not to flex.
[X] Bow your head and offer a courteous greeting (Charisma+Etiquette)
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4 dot.
We would've gotten it if we'd freed or killed Slate.
It would've been great fun!
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This is sort of getting into "do you want to be right, or do you want to win?" territory in my mind.
If showing her the courtesies she expects costs us nothing but some pride in exchange for a more favorable negotiating position then it's worth the bargain.
We don't need to go crazy with it, but let's not put our self satisfaction over the lives we're negotiating for here.
Yes, it's a good point. I just think that IC Molly feels animosity to the boss of fetches, so neutral greeting is enough.
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I think killing spade would have made her an enemy sorta. But, only in the show whose boss and work for advantages angle. Instead of kill on sight which would be an even higher dot.4 dot.
We would've gotten it if we'd freed or killed Slate.
It would've been great fun!
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Both were listed as an additional 3 dot enemy background. We already chose 1 during char gen.
Ah, such a nice sentiment
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Oh BTW Molly forgot most of the meanings of the signs she drew but she can now write Perfected Principle of Consumption in some strange language. Why that precise combination of Glyphs... no reason 
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That's fair though mabs not usually the type to go straight for murder when something has value that can be used.
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Can anyone post what this does somewhere?Oh BTW forgot most of the meanings of the signs you drew but Molly can now write Perfected Principle of Consumption in some strange language. Why that precise combination of Glyphs... no reason
She feels animosity towards Fetches.
She doesnt know enough about Mab to feel more than wariness, as far as I can tell. She might think that Mab has uktimate responsibility for them, but not that she sent them to get her.
And she knows IC that Mab is both fucking powerful and has legal claims on both Harry and now Mathews.
She is here to negotiate. She has every incentive to be courteous.
Not obsequious, but courteous.
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That isn't what's going on here. We're entering social combat, which means finding the right levers to pull in order to get what you want. Etiquette and courtesy are (in this context) the stealth weapons of polite society.
This is about the mask we present to get what we want. So do we care more about having a pretty mask, or about proverbially stabbing people and taking their kidneys because we picked an effective one?
FriedIce
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@DragonParadox I mean to ask - do we still have the Michael Road Trip left in this arc or are we doing xp spend and then doing that as a mini-arc?
Funny that an elder would have that opinion.
We are spending XP before the road trip, this arc is already more than 50 updates.
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Still got social combat with mab before we leave oh and agreements and goodbyes with the others here. Also escaping the government goons eh though. God their probably gonna be a recurring thing that in my mind make me want to go tuck it then monologue to them how fucked the world is and how unprepared they are.