Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Did she just try to deathcurse us?
[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
Someone invoking a rune to deny death, us going full Shonen to deny fate, and the amazing artwork back-to-back honestly made me tear up a little."I have seen my death and this is not the way!"
A white hot rune explodes in the center of her chest, like the symbol of infinity carved in splintered edges, a mark you know without knowing means 'day', the bright time, the coming of the sun and you feel sheer fury to see it so defiled, knitting back together that which you had broken, giving a traitor back her wretched life to work more evil upon the world, more children screaming, more hapless bystanders hung by their entrails like macabre puppets and all for what.... for what?
Because she had been promised by some evil even greater than her? Because fate?
"Be damned all fates!" you think it, you say it... something at the core of your power, something old and vicious, something sublime and perfect answers.
The world feels light and fluttering, as though all were made of gossamer and you the only solid thing as you whisper under your breath:"Shin.Tai."
Your heart beats faster and faster like some brass engine of extinction pumping out not blood but all consuming flame within as it is without. In blazing brass and pitch-black basalt you are garbed, upon your brow a crown of Ruin and Glory, in semblance and in mockery both of a thousand profane idols.
Not a tactic I actually want to do or think we have time for but the hilarious option would be using Molly's spectacular lying to convince Dresden that she's used her weird powers to render him incapable of summoning Mab.
On the other hand I think a much better option might be just yelling "Run from mab" and trying to get Ankou to abscond
No, she is not a wizard, she tried to use her time freeze power on you, which might have allowed her to escape or regroup on the submarine
JayTar
Idea briefcase
[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
Arawn takes out Capricorpus, we stop Harry, which leaves Lydia and Gard to deal with the sub. Seems like it would work fine?
Unless well, our movement speed is super high right now correct? Could we blitz past the sub and hit it before stopping Harry in the same turn?
Arawn takes out Capricorpus, we stop Harry, which leaves Lydia and Gard to deal with the sub. Seems like it would work fine?
Unless well, our movement speed is super high right now correct? Could we blitz past the sub and hit it before stopping Harry in the same turn?
Your dexterity is inhuman and you have an inherent doubling of your movement speed, you could certainly get to the sub and do a few actions there before getting back to try to stop Harry, though it is an open question how you stop a possessed Uboat (I'd do an occult lore) and then Molly would have to judge if she can do them in time.
Yes he would be more vulnerable unconscious.
Can we use Tool Transcending Constructs or dynamically stunt having brought some duct tape along for the eventuality, and tape his mouth shut?
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[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
I'll allow the ducktape, trouble is as long as he has his hands free Mab would expect him to use all means at his disposal to get his mouth free and do the summoning. Realistically he would probably just play along and get in trouble.
Also I should clarify, just because Harry would be more vulnerable to possession unconscious does not mean he would he that vulnerable in absolute terms. Lash is still in there and unlikely to take kindly to Capricorpus muscling in on her turf.
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- He/Him/His
[X] Focus on finishing off that sub
-[X] Afterwards, call Michael. If Mab wants to try and make a deal with Lydia, we can't stop her forever, but I'll be damned before I let her go into this alone.
Pleeease let's not piss off one of the supernatural heavyweights of the setting any more than we have to.
Also, there's so many ways trying to knock him out could go wrong. He could quite easily end up crippled, or in a coma, or dead, or possessed if we attempt this. With the possible exception of #4, we don't have any way at this time to fix any of these. Also, if any of those happen, Mab might become even more pissed off with us, given that IIRC she does have some responsibilities with respect to him, and crippling him while trying to get around her deal with him? Not going to be happy. Furthermore, it'll look to our allies like we're turning traitor.
We may well still be able to negotiate with her, particularly if we can offer her a plausible alternative such as the transferral ritual that I recall being discussed. I doubt that she is wholly beyond reason. From what I know, she certainly isn't stupid.
-[X] Afterwards, call Michael. If Mab wants to try and make a deal with Lydia, we can't stop her forever, but I'll be damned before I let her go into this alone.
Pleeease let's not piss off one of the supernatural heavyweights of the setting any more than we have to.
Also, there's so many ways trying to knock him out could go wrong. He could quite easily end up crippled, or in a coma, or dead, or possessed if we attempt this. With the possible exception of #4, we don't have any way at this time to fix any of these. Also, if any of those happen, Mab might become even more pissed off with us, given that IIRC she does have some responsibilities with respect to him, and crippling him while trying to get around her deal with him? Not going to be happy. Furthermore, it'll look to our allies like we're turning traitor.
We may well still be able to negotiate with her, particularly if we can offer her a plausible alternative such as the transferral ritual that I recall being discussed. I doubt that she is wholly beyond reason. From what I know, she certainly isn't stupid.
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[X] Focus on finishing off that sub
-Molly's first human kill. Stole Gard's kill too.
-Pointing out that Holt's time/precog mojo gave her enough oomph to momentarily match an Infernal Exalt using a full Excellency-boosted 20 dice pool.
-Called it that Holt/Sigfridsdottir would have more stuff up her sleeve, as befitting an Arc boss.
First Temporis, and then a 1-Up that actually rewound time to negate Aggravated damage.
-Im not sure I grok what happened there with Arawn.
Did Kattrin bind and turn him into a table, and killing her released him? Or is he just showing up at the fight and coincidentally ending up between the Uboat and Dresden?
-How is Corpsetaker even going to try and run with Arawn right there and Gard in front of her?
-Enough secrets revealed in this fight for +2 Essence, I think.
Eh. She probably shouldnt survive this.@uju32 , it seems we still can meet Capricorpus with a proper selection of charms
Attempting to dip with Gard behind her and Arawn flanking her should just get her murdered out of hand.
Then we duct tape his mouth and then duct tape his hands together, palm to palm, so he can't pull it off, and do it so quicky he doesn't have a chance to resist or not.
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- Germany
To be clear here, this is not the choice between pissing off Mab or not.
Dresden is already in Damsel-saving mode and will try to get out of the deal either way.
This is just us taking the majority of the blame, rather than letting him do it.
And we are the relativly harder target.
Its magic.
All it requires is intent and Will, especially when the Winter Queen already has you on speed dial.
Dresden summoned Mab in his head while sitting strapped to a backboard with a broken back.
JayTar
Idea briefcase
Does this really apply to us though? Trying to knock someone out is a really terrible idea that can go very wrong... in real life. We have rather passed that point.
We can also deal with possession via the classic tactic of brutally shedding any spirit that tries to approach Harry.
The other big reason for knocking Harry out here is not to prevent him from summoning Mab, but to make it so that he is not responsible for not summoning Mab. Given his character he may very well not do what he is supposed to here. So we are knocking him out to protect him from himself.
Then once he is down we talk to Arawn and hopefully come up with a solution that make everyone least unhappy. Then wake Harry up, have him summon Mab and present the solution as a fait accompli.
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I would guess the former:
The fact that the altar is gone and he is there makes it pretty clear that this is not a coincidence.
Though I'm not sure if it was Kattrin's death or Capricorpus' flight or the combination of both that broke the binding.
So your plan is to give Arawn back either to slavery or quite possibly eternal torture on a cross of ice? Or to have her murder him and then hold his life hostage to enslave Lydia for eternity?
There is no such solution. Either Mab wins and Arawn and Lydia lose, or Mab wins and they lose.
The way everyone we care about wins is for Arawn and Lydia to get away and for Harry to keep the letter of his agreement with Mab. Trying to play silly games just gives Mab an opportunity to win, and us to lose. If she misses her shot this time she's not lost anything, she can always try again next time, and she's had some enemies of hers killed by us without needing to pay us.
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[X] Focus on finishing off that sub
REASONS
1)We had a plan. We discussed a plan before coming here, about negotiating things with Mab.
Everybody in our strike party was on board with the plan.
Stick to the plan.
2)Abruptly attacking one of your own allies after activating a demon shintai is the sort of thing that makes your other allies think that you are either possessed or betraying them.
I am not risking getting into a fight with Gard because people arent rational about Mab.
3)The fight is not actually over yet. Finish the fight.
4)An unconscious Dresden means we have zero trustworthy means of getting past the FBI agents at the entrance
And we just killed a woman
And there are multiple mutilated bodies around the premises.
[X] Focus on finishing off that sub
REASONS
1)We had a plan. We discussed a plan before coming here, about negotiating things with Mab.
Everybody in our strike party was on board with the plan.
Stick to the plan.
2)Abruptly attacking one of your own allies after activating a demon shintai is the sort of thing that makes your other allies think that you are either possessed or betraying them.
I am not risking getting into a fight with Gard because people arent rational about Mab.
3)The fight is not actually over yet. Finish the fight.
4)An unconscious Dresden means we have zero trustworthy means of getting past the FBI agents at the entrance
And we just killed a woman
And there are multiple mutilated bodies around the premises.