Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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We don't have it yet, but it doesn't matter. Once we have the name we can then call and bind the Capricorpus whenever we get it.
And knowing the Capricorpus' name makes it very much worth it to learn the spell, as doing that would allow us to blow huge amounts of secrets pen and really reverse a lot of the bad guys' advantages.
Edit: How long does it take to use Crown of Eyes, can we simultaneously knock Harry out and as we do so use the Crown, or would it make snese to knock him out first and after we punch him use the Crown?
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OctarineShrike
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Crown of Eyes does not give you anybody's name in a metaphysically significant manner last I checked.
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It also takes times, of which we have precious little in the middle of combat.
The crown give the name not the True name from their own mouths which is what matters all you do is waste a question for nothing.
Sucks that it has to happen, but it's still 2 on 2. We can take Evil Bob with our nuclear demon princess form.
[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files) Crossover - Fantasy
Asking for a beings true name will not work, because you would not hear it in its own voice you would just know it in full as the universe bows to your dread mandate. A True Name is an intimate thing and the Crown of Eyes is all encompassing and objective.
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You would get their full true name, for any information gathering purposes that would be all you need to identify them, but you would not be able to bind by it since you did not hear it from them, you read it in Ye Old Legacy Cosmic Phone Book that almost no one even knows is there.
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You guys can still research a spirit's name to summon and bind it as a normal ritualist like with Harry and the Earlking, I just do not think it would be a very fun game is you could go down an arbitrary list of spirits and make an army with just Crown of Eyes from the comfort of your couch. The...
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Irrelevant. We don't need their True Name for Iron Shade Binding, just the name they had in their mortal life. This isn't Dresdenverse magic, this is Exalted Ancient Sorcery, which is better:
Iron Shade Binding
Standing within a circle of blood and bone-dust, the sorcerer performs an hour-long incantation to summon a ghost and bind it into her service. This ritual may only be performed at night or in the Underworld, and requires either the utterance of the ghost's living name, possession of a piece of the shade's body or of one of their Fetters.
System: Spend 5 Essence and make an extended Intelligence + Occult roll (difficulty 8). Once the player accumulates ten successes, the ghost appears at the edge of the summoning circle, whisked to the sorcerer's side through a Nihil. The sorcerer and wraith then make contested Willpower rolls at difficulty 6. The first to gain three more successes wins the contest. Should the wraith win, he may depart, and is immune to this spell for a year and a day. Should the sorcerer win, the wraith must obey her commands to the best of its ability for a year and a day.
Standing within a circle of blood and bone-dust, the sorcerer performs an hour-long incantation to summon a ghost and bind it into her service. This ritual may only be performed at night or in the Underworld, and requires either the utterance of the ghost's living name, possession of a piece of the shade's body or of one of their Fetters.
System: Spend 5 Essence and make an extended Intelligence + Occult roll (difficulty 8). Once the player accumulates ten successes, the ghost appears at the edge of the summoning circle, whisked to the sorcerer's side through a Nihil. The sorcerer and wraith then make contested Willpower rolls at difficulty 6. The first to gain three more successes wins the contest. Should the wraith win, he may depart, and is immune to this spell for a year and a day. Should the sorcerer win, the wraith must obey her commands to the best of its ability for a year and a day.
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Harry doesn't have to summon Mab mid-battle, y'all. Knocking him out now not only removes an ally from the field, it also makes Harry vulnerable both physically and magically. Capricorpus is still a threat and Evil Bob hasn't even really taken the field yet, since he's been puppeting the u-boat this whole time.
[X] Focus on finishing off that sub
EDIT: Also, rendering someone unconscious via bludgeoning is a stupidly dangerous and ill-advised method of subduing a person whose continued well being we actually care about. This is the first time Molly has used her Shintai form, and though the strength enhancements is relatively minor, it still puts her at the absolute peak of Human ability, IIRC. A misjudged hit could seriously injure Harry.
[X] Focus on finishing off that sub
EDIT: Also, rendering someone unconscious via bludgeoning is a stupidly dangerous and ill-advised method of subduing a person whose continued well being we actually care about. This is the first time Molly has used her Shintai form, and though the strength enhancements is relatively minor, it still puts her at the absolute peak of Human ability, IIRC. A misjudged hit could seriously injure Harry.
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This will in fact work, it is more limited than Dresdenverse true naming is and it requires you to pull out the big guns of Ancient Sorcery. Also it's 5 essence, that is VED equivalent in price.
Unfortunately Harry can speak her name three times even in the middle of battle, she is listening, and Mab might take him not doing it as evidence of foul play.
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Especially since she likely can compel the truth out of him what he intended to do.
Since he does owe her.
And he failed his "Damsel in Distress" willpower check.
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"I am that I am"?
Very subtle...
[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
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Does Arawn still have a chance of getting the Corpsetaker(if he isn't distracted by Mab appearing) or is she gone for good?
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That is unfortunate.
I would be more willing to try to safely knock him out if the battle was actually done. Hopefully Arawn doesn't suffer too badly if Mab makes an appearance, or he is prepared to flee really quickly.
He certainly looks like he's going to try.
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The problem never was Arawn suffering, it is Lydia suffering.
And fuck that.
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[X] Knock Harry out, he cannot call Mab if he's unconscious and she cannot even blame him for planning it if you do it now
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If not for Lydia, then for this:
I know a finished-off enemy is something you enjoy.
Trying to make sure that one of the most dangerous ghosts in this world is going to come after us again must be in your area of interest.
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Can we use the Crown on Mathews for her name, in case she gets away?
Like asking for the name of the one who possessed him?
We once did get a name for who tried bugging our car, iirc.
Yep that is close enough I'd say.
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If problem is in that, can we simply shut his mouth?
Forcefully.
Gently.
You can, but it would be rather hard to fight with one hand keeping his mouth closed.