Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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The Corpsetaker used to be a White Council wizard, and her last assistant was a ghoul with the name of Li Xian.
I think its safe to assume she can at least speak Chinese, and I suspect she can speak Japanese.
If nothing else, she's probably ripped it out of some poor victim's head.
Gard has had enough time to learn. Interest? Dunno.
Kattrin might just have done the necromancer thing and ripped it out of someone's head.
Doubt it. Well before her time. The Archive is a much more recent creation; the impression Im given is five or ten thousand years.
And if by some happenstance she came across it, its the kind of book that she is programmed to only remember for as long as she can take to confirm that she has the only copy, then erase it.
Thats what she does in the Oblivion War.
I think she soaked it.
Plus, if we're using Gard's canon feats as a baseline, she either has Ox Body equivalents or a wound penalty negator of some sort.
Possibly both.
And I would not be surprised if she has some healing shit around.
Runes, potions, a sealed life, whatever.
She's a necromancer after all; ethical considerations are not really a constraining factor for her.
Remember, Broken Winged Crane is acausal. In exalted it's a book that's going to be written at some point in the future when Yozi are triumphant and free. All actually copies are pale imitations. Reflections of future upon modern day.
Given that exaltations still exist, that Infernals exist, and at least one is free... There is a non-zero chance of the glorious and horrible Yozi future happening. This means that someone could be penning the book right now.
Broken Winged Crane is a thing long forgotten and erased from history, yes. But it is also an image of nightmares to come.
This is either not our Exaltation's original universe, or Someone(s) reshaped the universe so thoroughly that what used to be universal constants dont seem to apply any longer, and the godweapon that is an Exaltation is running on fumes.
I have strong doubts about the ability of a book, any book, to survive the changes that would have occurred.
The more powerful it is, the less likely it would have been to survive.
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Yeah but that future came and went. It happened and there were 3 more ages after it did.
The Kindred of the East exist here as the Jade Court, and the Broken Winged Crane is something that corrupted some of them, including one of their early Emperors.
This is a book that rewrites new copies of itself to corrupt people.
This is a book that rewrites new copies of itself to corrupt people.
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Distant future (for a given value of time passing) past several cosmic retcons seems more likely to me.
We still should keep an eye out. If it or something like it starts appearing, it might be a sign that great and terrible powers from our past are trying to crawl back into reality.
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She soaked some of the hit but not all as far as Molly can see, that said it does not seem to have slowed her down much.
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So it's The World... sorry I mean Za Warudo.
It's half assed because Molly doesn't actually speak Japanese past the "watches subs some times" level.
But yeah, this is a taste thing. I draw a distinction between references made around stuff and actively adopting behaviors. I don't think there's much profit to be had in going further into why and what specifically. Seems more likely to offend people who interpret it as an attack on their hobbies than anything else.
I'm more interested in the white god's potential reaction, or at least Uriel's, to the first use of Molly's Shintai. It's not clear to me how omniscient either of them can actually be, especially in the context of esoteric exalted stuff from outside fate.
There's hoping for a payoff on a long odds, and there's seeing a spark of solar glory permanently manifested in the god body of a newborn demon emperor.
It might be one of the few times they've been surprised, especially by how well things are going.
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They only erase outsider stuff mind you.
I believe that they intended to do it to the Fae as well, so they couldn't manifest outside the Nevernever, but the Grimm brothers, and Shakespeare prevented it.
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I'm excited that Bleach is back too guys, but it's not really the time or place?
So wouldn't this make Molly the anti-weeb? Because she's explicitly saying 'nah, I don't think I'll ever want to speak Japanese'
I'm excited that Bleach is back too guys, but it's not really the time or place?
Isn't the entire point of picking your spell casting language that you pick a language you never plan to need to use? Because you don't want to accidentally cast?
So wouldn't this make Molly the anti-weeb? Because she's explicitly saying 'nah, I don't think I'll ever want to speak Japanese'
Looks like vote's pretty well set, with some minor issues over the stunt.
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That was an organization not the archive also almost explicitly an outsider plot.
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1)The Kindred of the East MAY be the Jade Court. Might even be likely.
But they may not.
We dont actually know yet.
2)The Broken Winged Crane of the Kindred dates back to the fourteenth century, when the first copy was confirmed to have been found. And it deals with the Yama Kings, not the Yozi. Described as, and I quote "the prayerbook of the Sixth Age; a blueprint for ultimate spiritual degradation; a textbook for those who would embrace the Yama Kings as masters."(Thousand Hells pg 108)
There are intentional echoes of the BWC of Exalted, but they're very much not the same thing, or in anything like similar ballparks of power and significance.
To be fair to Alratan, there is a Broken Winged Crane in Ex2.
It just doesnt seem to be the same book.
Gotcha.
Its you pick a language you dont habitually speak or think in, so you have some insulation between your normal thought patterns and magic. Dresden casts in pig-Latin despite Latin being the official lingua franca of the White Council.
Elaine seems to mostly use Egyptian.
Those are the two wizards we've seen cast onscreen other than Molly.
But it might well be a training wheels style situation, where older, more adept wizards dont need the protection.
In the later books, we begin to see Dresden sometimes cast in English, most notably in that Ghost Story scene where his ghost/disembodied soul says "Be" and wills himself back to life with a body.
Outer Gods stuff. Not Outsider stuff.
They are not the same thing, at all; for one thing we know at least some of the Outer Gods are within the walls of reality
And for another, the White Council would never disseminate books about Outsiders, yet the Archive and Venators expect there is a good chance they would about Outer Gods in order to weaken them.
And yes, they did try to do the same thing with the Fae.
Mab outplayed them by using the G-Men to popularize fairytales and the printing press to disseminate them
The G-men here were the Brothers Grimm, and Gutenberg who invented the printing press.Backup said:
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I mean outer god stuff is outsider stuff. Like just cause they aren't beyond the outer gates doesn't mean their not connected.
Also the archive was never said to be part of that stuff with the fae.
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1)Outsiders are outside the Outer Gates by definition.
They hide for a reason.
Outer Gods dont hide. Some may sleep, but they dont hide.
2)The Venators dont even know that their ultimate boss is the Archive.
She sets corporate policy.
There's no way they attempted to cut off the Fae from the human world without it being her idea.
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I doubt the archive was that stupid at the time though also I mean outsider infections easily could have caused it. Not like they have instant communication or not have pockets within the organization.