Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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So, was doing a reread to search for foreshadowing, and I found some little things already:

First: right before we encounter Army in Pink, Mami says that whatever is approaching is not a witch, and reming her of us.

Second: Given all the discussion about alchemy due to the name of our EGO, here's the name of chapter 11, where we fight Blue Star:
The Alchemist and God

Yeah, it's not difficult to see what it refers to for the alchemist now.

And in relation to that: Chapter 11 is called "The Alchemist and God"

Aaaaannnnnnd, I got ninja'd.

I also was reminded of Lepidoptera mention that this was their first quest, so, congratulations on writing something that good, may you be able to continue.
 
Oh, and since there was a discussion about alkalest, one funny little anecdote is that alchemist wanted it because it was *the universal solvent*, well, turns out it exist, it's called water. :V
 
1) Nigredo here would be where we turn an Abno into a Sapling.
2) Albedo would then correlate with getting the 3 Concepts that we have to gather before the EGO can be extracted.
3) Citrinitas would then be whatever is necessary to increase the Synchronization so it gets from "Very High" to "Integrating"
4) And Rubedo would then be what is currently happening with Pinks and A Sword Sharpened With Tears, with the result of the integration being whatever would be their Philosopher's Stone equivalent.

So it seems X is attempting the 4 step process with every Sapling we gain.

And in relation to that: Chapter 11 is called "The Alchemist and God"

wherin X faced Blue Star.
As a religious Abno this would make Blue Star the "God" in this scenario.
And by process of elimination X the Alchemist.

Maybe I am stretching here, but it is interesting how the Sapling mechanics can be somewhat mapped to the steps to completing The Great Work.
And sorry if this is somewhere obviously wrong. Am currently tired, but just really found the similarities I saw worth pointing out.
I don't see anything wrong with it, and I sure as hell didn't notice The Alchemist and God being such a fuckhuge foreshadowing until you pointed it out. Also, did some more thinking and read some of the discussion between my posts and now I have more crackpot theory thoughts:

Alkahest is the universal solvent, that which consumes and reduces all things to a base state. As an Abnormality, it seems that its nature is to cause widespread rot, decay, and destruction wherever it is present. Alkahest The Abnormality rather explicitly doesn't want to do that. It wants to be able to exist in the world without destroying everything. In order to do that, Alkahest has to render itself incapable of causing decay in a most permanent fashion.

Problem: How does one render a solvent useless?
Solution: Find its saturation point, the point where it's consumed as much as it conceivably could, and can contain no more 'base essence' within itself.

Problem: Alkahest is The Universal Solvent. The Universal Solvent is by design capable of subsuming anything and everything, and might not even have a saturation point.
Solution: Preform the acts of Alchemy necessary to create the Philosopher's Stone. After all, a true Philosopher's Stone can do anything, even the impossible, like permanently filling a void which consumes all it touches...

...Right???

...Problem: Alkahest cannot preform Alchemy without interacting with the world. Alkahest will destroy the world if it attempts to do so. Alkahest's ambitions require there to be a world to live in once all is said and done.
Solution: Light is both non-toxic to the material world, and immune to the corrosive nature of Alkahest. A higher form of alchemical glass. Use it to forge a vessel that can contain that which ordinarily cannot be. A set of metaphorical gloves to wear, all in order to act without tainting the environment Alkahest will complete The Great Work in.


And that's... pretty much all I have thought-wise. Don't really have a full idea of why X isn't fully synched with her Alkahest-self but maybe that's just a side-effect of wearing the metaphorical gloves or something??? IDK. I didn't get enough sleep. Also I forgot to vote for listening to the childe. So I shall do that now.

[X] Hear out the strange child.
 
For clarification, Alkahest is not the name of Abno!X. It's the name of their EGO gear, their Abnormality name was revealed a bit ago.
 
For clarification, Alkahest is not the name of Abno!X. It's the name of their EGO gear, their Abnormality name was revealed a bit ago.
I guess its "Daughter of the Sun and Moon"?

Since thats who's EGO Gift it is, and since its us who gave it...

Edit: Not that the sun and moon aren't pretty important alchemical symbols if one wants to continue that train of thought.
 
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I have been thinking, are the Abnos Synchronizing with us, or with Alkahest? I feel that if some are synchronized with us and others with Alkahest, that is going to be important in the future.
 
Well, given that all abnos in Lobcorp use the same name for all their EGO, Gift, Armor, and Weapons, we know the names of these too now.

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Wait, you said gear, not gift, well... :oops:
:V
The name of the EGO gift may not necessarily be our name (I think). After all apocalypse birb gift is called "Through the dark twilight" while its gear is only "Twilight"
 
I was going on the assumption that the abno was Lobotomy as the ego gift is daughter of sun and moon right?
Lobotomy could be called the child of Carmen(Sun) and Ayin(Moon) or at least that's my take on it could be wrong idk
 
I guess its "Daughter of the Sun and Moon"?
The name of the EGO gift may not necessarily be our name (I think). After all apocalypse birb gift is called "Through the dark twilight" while its gear is only "Twilight"
I was going on the assumption that the abno was Lobotomy as the ego gift is daughter of sun and moon right?
Lobotomy could be called the child of Carmen(Sun) and Ayin(Moon) or at least that's my take on it could be wrong idk

Guys, we were told our name, it's... actually, @Lepidoptera, how do you type the character for ALEPH? The last time I needed it, I was able to cheat by doing a copy/paste of Der Fruity's dialogue but it's a little more difficult to do that now...

Anyway, our name is clearly ALEPH, as told by Der Fruity when he talked to us.
 
And at this point I am beginning to wonder if the *exception* thar was Blue Star was actually an exception or if we caught her right as it was digesting the witch and it couldn't stop it's gravity, it turned into a Sapling too easily.
Blue Star was indeed not an exception. I read that update again, and it doesn't understand why we're stopping it from helping.
Don't really have a full idea of why X isn't fully synched with her Alkahest-self but maybe that's just a side-effect of wearing the metaphorical gloves or something??? IDK. I didn't get enough sleep. Also I forgot to vote for listening to the childe. So I shall do that now.
Again, I think this is intentional and part of X's nature as a container/cage. If X was just like א, then they would not contained. Restrained, maybe, but going by the update restrained isn't enough to stop the decay.

From what I gathered, X is not א, X is א's E.G.O. made into a human shape and given her own thoughts based on X the manager.

Huh, that explains why we were given a choice about X's name. X is supposed to be a separate identity.
 
Well, it was... Exciting.
Also, X, it looks like you weren't as neat as you'd like, and your hair colour settings are out of whack. I am sure that the hair of ordinary people does not shimmer, showing a view of the cosmic nebulae. It's a little too much even compared to your last hairstyle.

I wonder if that would be a problem though. From what I've seen so far, this shape probably has some sort of perceptual distortion field, causing others to perceive X as normal. In particular, no one comments on her hair, and Sayaka still perceives X as a Magical Girl. She's really really pushy with the "don't ruin anything" thing, isn't she? In this regard, Kyubey probably sees the best because they have no prejudices. Though now I wonder how much they've seen...

Also, a very interesting point is the fact that X was able to reach the Material World on her own, which is an impressive display of power. And really creepy. Not to mention, she seems to have left a gap behind her, opening the way for other Anomalies.

Also, I'm quite interested in Angela's reaction to what she unintentionally did to her sister.

But back to a voting...

[X] Hear out the strange child.
-[X] Is she all right? Does she need help?
 
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א, a character meaning "king" or "ruler"

Yes, but what's the code? It's not on normal keyboards, or at least not on mine.

Blue Star was indeed not an exception. I read that update again, and it doesn't understand why we're stopping it from helping.

Thanks for the confirm. Great to have confirmation that absolutely no abnormalities have been actually hostile to us, will help going forward.

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Also, I'm quite interested in Angela's reaction to what she unintentionally did to her sister.

I really am looking forward to it too, especially her reaction to us calling her sister in the first place. Though, you reminded me, here's a song that could work for our character theme, which is funny since it's actually from Limbus company trailer....



Also, since I'm editing already, I had a thought about *revealing our full glory*, now, some are predicting some conditions for it, but I think it's far easier than that, as easy as voting *Break our self imposed cage* in fact....
 
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Wait... Is the original X the weird Abno? Well, א doesn't seem as nice as our current X I think...
א acted weird in some situations, things that X doesn't like/considers unnatural (like when it wanted to "fix more" with Homura's mind). Could this be influence of the light?
 
א acted weird in some situations, things that X doesn't like/considers unnatural (like when it wanted to "fix more" with Homura's mind). Could this be influence of the light?

It's probably just some disconnect with *our nature as an abnormality*, the part of us that is something that recreate the hell we lived in without wanting to, and *our disguise as a human*, the image we want to project to the world because we actually want happiness, for us and others.

Our greater self made us to contain itself because it knows it cannot show itself without dire consequences, in exalted parlance, I guess we are a *fetish soul*, the central part and a good indicator of quite a lot of the values of the one we represent, but not a one to one copy, there are parts we don't express, in this case, we are less zealous in our search for enlightening others, and we are not as arrogant from what the little part when we leaked a little seems to show.

I am wondering how dangerous it would be to vote for something like *Let the tiniest bit of your true self leak* to make a proper demonstration to Angela if we want to convince her that we are not human either.... I don't really want to do so in any other situation because I think the Library would probably help us stay contained. Unless the apocalypse is happening right now, I don't think we'll use our true self, at least not before we actually manage to control ourself, probably with what we're doing with the saplings.
 
There is no special way to do it, I copied an instance I found and have just been recycling the same symbol whenever I need it.

Cheating the exact same way I did I see. :V

I am pretty sure there is actually a Alt-code for it, but the ones I find don't give the correct one, I get W when I try the Alt X code (Keep alt and x pressed and type 2135) and 5 when I try the alt code (type 8501 while keeping alt pressed)... Couldn't they at least keep the codes the same over the years? *Grumbles grumbles*

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Google says it's unicode 2135

Tried, get W.....
 
I am wondering how dangerous it would be to vote for something like *Let the tiniest bit of your true self leak* to make a proper demonstration to Angela if we want to convince her that we are not human either.... I don't really want to do so in any other situation because I think the Library would probably help us stay contained. Unless the apocalypse is happening right now, I don't think we'll use our true self, at least not before we actually manage to control ourself, probably with what we're doing with the saplings.

I believe that X's true form is very cool with all those wings! Kyoko, in particular, would be really impressed with such a display. I wonder if X can make a pair of wings in her "sealed" form? Flying sounds cool. Human appearance is overrated anyway.

And looking at the image again, these scars now look like cracks in the mask. It's creepy but probably thematically appropriate.
 
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