Just something I decided a while ago, for all relevant discussions, air combat in this quest works like Ace Combat with sensible munition counts.
To elaborate on this, this means that CRAM, SAM and even Laser point defenses are nearly worthless against a, side-character- or protagonist-level ace pilot. Right now we are still in the backstory-creation arc of pilots, but they might pop up sooner or later.
 
To elaborate on this, this means that CRAM, SAM and even Laser point defenses are nearly worthless against a, side-character- or protagonist-level ace pilot. Right now we are still in the backstory-creation arc of pilots, but they might pop up sooner or later.
...Ace pilots from that are pure BS. I mean, the sheer capabilities caused that verse to be behind on military strategy and tactics because wars typically boiled down to conflict between the aces. At least the sane ammunition counts limits stuff like traumatizing a whole nation to the point whole armies could break and rout on seeing one of the veteran aces...
Now one question is if there might be potential for similar notables in other fields, since it seems to be something tied to the comeback of magic...
We might want to see about making a synthetic alternative to human blood for the Vamps, if anything, that would let us gain a supernatural ally of sorts and get our foot in the door. Of course, that's going to be a pain in the ass, even more so as they don't seem to want to tell us just what they need from human blood to nourish them- :V
The vampires might not even quite know why. 🤷‍♂️
they needed human blood from the source due to something they might not even know for sure. I mean, while it may be unusual circumstances, the first vampire we encountered seems to have experimented to see if blood bank sourced blood might work as a substitute, which simply wasn't potent enough to work.
Chika Kuroki, a Japanese administrator, had transferred large, regular amounts of money to a local blood bank. Further careful investigations revealed the existence of a burner phone, with which she frequently communicated with the blood bank and, more alarming, six blood bags of varying types in her fridge and a number of empty ones in her trash.
Kuroki: "I will never be reduced to my mindless self again, without emotion, without thought. Blood in packs is no substitute for taking it directly from the source, but I tried."
So the vampire negaverse probably is highly frustrated by the situation, both by the incoming threats, and the fact that they may not even know where exactly to start trying to deal with the big problem that is currently preventing any form of cooperation beyond happenstance or them nudging us through infiltrated agents...
 
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Vampyre Negaverse I [Semi-canon]
Vampire house on Modern Earth Negaverse​
"Yuu", Sokolov asked over his inter phone, desperately rummaging through the countless files on his desk. He really needed to bring order to his work space one of these days, but today would not be that day. "Do you know where the contract proposal with Lafarge is?"

Sokolov could almost hear his aide roll her eyes. Looking up, he could see her get up from her own desk and walk to the armored glass door separating his office from hers. He sighed, trying to establish basic order on his large desk before his aide could come save him.

His office was on one of the higher floors of the UNDC Tower and offered a good view on Tokyo bay, which was currently grey and tumultuous due to the ongoing storm. Rain fell against the large glass windows behind him, the only sound in his shielded office aside from the rustling of papers.

Wondering why his aide had not entered his office, he looked up, watching Yuu repeatedly swiping her key card in front of the scanner. With a groan he walked over, quickly holding up his ID bracelet to the scanner to unlock the door.

"Another malfunction?"

"I hope so", she looked at her card with annoyance. "Better call CSec about this."

"Can this wait until after we found the Lafarge file", he pleaded. "I have a conference in 30 minutes with their representative and I need to look over the cement delivery proposals one last time."

"I know", she offered him a file in an UNDC blue folder. "You forgot it on my desk."

"What would I do without you?" Sokolov took it and sighed with relief. Yuu just wanted to turn around when something outside catched her interest. He frowned and followed her gaze, catching Ospreys in UNDC colors descending to land on the landing spots below.

"Ospreys?"

"ASR Ospreys", she corrected him, a hint of worry in her voice. Yuu walked closer towards the window to look down, Sokolov followed her. 400 meters below them, ASR units stepped outside APCs and VTOLs and hurried towards the tower together with DCSec units.

"I don't like this", Sokolov admitted, thoughts hurrying back to the recent Security review. The visit of the Japan Bio-verification unit was still in his mind, mostly for how much they had hindered work that day. "Why hasn't the alarm been raised?"

"Maybe they wanted to surprise whoever the verificators caught?"

"Could be", Sokolov hurried towards his desk and picked up the phone, dialing the in-house number for the DCSec chief.

"Yes, Sir, what can I do for you?" Chief Lee sounded too relaxed for the amount of force that was gathering outside in the awful Tokyo weather.

"Lee, what is going on?"

"I can't say, Secretary", she replied, before adding a quick. "Director's orders."

"Great", he added. "Can you tell me anything else?"

"One second..."

Yuu meanwhile had moved to the front of his desk, tilting her head as if she was listening.

"...please evacuate to the-'' Chief Lee was cut off when Yuu ripped out the intercom. Sokolov stumbled backwards in shock, but was caught by Yuu hand gripping his collar before he could fall. He looked into her eyes, finding frustration, anger and...desperation in them.

"Your ID has emergency override privileges. I'm gonna need you alive if I want to get out of here in one piece."

He could only grunt confusedly before Yuu dragged him over the table over to the office door. "Open it!"

Sokolov hesitated, his mind racing. "What did you do to Yuu Itou?"

"Nothing happened to me. Now open the door. I'd rather not be torn to shreds by Hardtmanns gorillas." He could feel something very sharp stab into his back.

Shakingly Sokolov held up his wrist to the ID-lock, which unlocked with a satisfying click and the door swung open.

"Thank you for making this simple"; she murmured and pushed him forward, one hand on his neck the other one pushing against his back. The second door was opened up fast and she half dragged, half pushed him through the filled office space. UNDC administrators still sitting in their cubicles watching the scene baffled.

"If anyone here tries something I will gut him out.", She screamed, but Sokolov could hear her voice starting to crack. Nevertheless she pushed him forward, up to the elevators, under the fearful gaze of his subordinates. Sokolov prayed noone would try something stupid. Arriving at the elevators, Yuu stopped, anxiously looking between the doors.

"Get me an elevator here, now!" She shouted at a security camera in a corner.

"I don't think that's…" The pressure in his back increased and he felt a stabbing pain that made him shut up.

"Just, be quiet." She looked into the camera again, holding up a hand with sharp, claw-like fingers, blood dripping off the index one. "I am serious."

Moments later an elevator arrived at shaft number 2 and Yuu dragged both of them inside, throwing Sokolov into a corner while she leaned against the wall; exhausted. Yuu took out her phone and dialed a number, her claws transforming back into a human hand.

"Come on, come on.", she muttered nervously while walking up and down the small elevator space. "No reception, how?"

She looked at Sokolov. "Give me your phone!"

He obliged, fiddling his mobile phone out of his pocket and handing it the Vampyre with shaking hands. But when she tried using it, she got the same result. Yuu turned towards the elevator's control panel, pressing the button for the highest floor before defeatedly sinking towards the ground.

"Do you have a plan?" Sokolov grunted as he sat upright.

"There was a plan." She answered, stressing the past tense. "But I doubt even a squad of demonhosts could get me out of here with the army assembled here on site."

"Great" Sokolov sighed. "So you were the leak."

"I was responsible for some leaks, but we are not the only faction trying to get a foot into the UNDC."

"Who is we?"

For a moment Yuu looked conflicted at her former boss, before her face hardened again. Feeling he was losing her, Sokolov quickly followed up. "Why this shadow war? The UNDC is not unwilling to do peace negotiations."

She snorted in amusement. "Would the UNDC and the Security Council permit me the twelve humans a year I need to stay myself?"

"Twelve?"

"I thought so."

Sokolov got up and straightened out his suit. "You can always try."

"It is too late." She shook her head. "It was too late the moment you learned of our existence. The moment you found the thrall, the moment one of ours took a little too much essence and revealed herself."

"Essence?"

But Yuu did not answer, instead she got up, faster than Sokolov could perceive.

"We have company." She picked up Sokolov by the collar again and pressed a rapidly expanding claw against his neck. "There are ASR above us. How did they get there? Tell them to drop their weapons."

He swallowed, a drop of blood was running down the long claw at his throat. "Look, what is your plan here?"

"I said, order them to go away."

"Why do you want to go to the top?"

"So I can fly out of here." She turned them around, reacting to a sound Sokolov could not hear. Quickly Yuu stepped forward and punched the emergency stop button. Just for a moment, she had taken her hand of Sokolovs throat.

This was all the ASR needed.

Sokolov was instantly blinded and deafened by flash and gas grenades. Yuu released him, and Sokolov fell forward, blind and helpless. As if underwater he could hear the faint sound of heavy gunshots and screams. Rough, gloved hands grabbed him and dragged him away from the fighting, away from the person he believed to be a friend. He was still coughing, irritant gas in his lungs and airways making breathing difficult There was a loud bang and an inhuman screech that rattled his bones and paralysed him. The hands grabbing him hesitated for a moment before continuing onwards. Slowly his hearing returned, soldiers screaming orders and far away weapons fire. An explosion rocked the floor.

"Weapons free, light the floor on fire. We cannot allow it to escape."

"Wait", Sokolov muttered before another set of explosions shook the floor. Someone threw him over their shoulder.

"We have the Secretary."

They rapidly descended the stairs. Military gear clattered around him. Black and white spots danced across his field of vision.

"He is bleeding."

"Tell someone to get a medical team up here."


Then he drifted off into unconsciousness.
WELP. There goes our in. really hope our agent survived escaping from that fortress.
I guess the time we bailed out that other group came with quite a cost. I mean, she threaded everything, up until we gave the order which revealed the existence of the mole.
She was a good agent, very helpful navigating around the surprisingly competent UN response. I mean, they held their ground during the super moon over in the middle-east, and they are already deploying significant teams around the world to respond to the rising encounters around the globe.
Still am impressed by the fact they fielded enough forces to possibly threaten a whole squad of demonhosts and they didn't even field any of their actual military.
Moments later an elevator arrived at shaft number 2 and Yuu dragged both of them inside, throwing Sokolov into a corner while she leaned against the wall; exhausted. Yuu took out her phone and dialed a number, her claws transforming back into a human hand.

"Come on, come on.", she muttered nervously while walking up and down the small elevator space. "No reception, how?"

She looked at Sokolov. "Give me your phone!"

He obliged, fiddling his mobile phone out of his pocket and handing it the Vampyre with shaking hands. But when she tried using it, she got the same result. Yuu turned towards the elevator's control panel, pressing the button for the highest floor before defeatedly sinking towards the ground.
Moments like this reminds me how technologically unaware our people are, and it's PAINFUL!
OF COURSE THEY ARE GONNA JAM THE PHONES!
Seriously, this quest is essentially us carefully tip-toeing around this organization while desperately trying to build things up to handle the dragons, gods, and other incoming threats. And... We are gonna eat a big hit because so many assets use her family name, and they aren't gonna ignore them.
Ever since the first vampire got busted, things have been getting quite rough. The UNDC have shown to be very adaptable, and annoying with their roving ASR teams and constant vigilance.
While their air force are pretty scary, they are certainly catching up in other departments, considering stuff like THAT SHOTGUN they rolled out to everyone. That thing was a very scary thing to see in action. The sheer amount of metal that thing throws around is certainly worthy of being an anti-werewolf weapon!
Sokolov Survived, and I have no clue if that is good or bad for us...
Which, pretty much describes anything with those guys.

A/N: Tried to do a bit of a vampire negaverse with the cover blown bit being an interlude. A group that might have been allies if it weren't for the 12 people per vampire per year thing needed to maintain Sapience. And well, went with them not really being that tech literate considering I really don't think an agent would have not anticipated the jamming of communications. Honestly, thinking back, we have invested a lot into security, and we throw a LOT of resources picking over our organization looking for infiltrators, since we use it as a dice sink, throwing in dice that otherwise wouldn't be used. Anyone have anything to add to this?
 
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That got me thinking and I have to admit that there is a problem that needs to be solved. I mean there will be vampires who drink more blood than they have to, but it is difficult even for the others and I have sympathy with them. It would be the same as if people, e.g. Could only feed on chickens and then the chickens find out about it and say stop. What should the vampires do? Starve?

So I'm against genocide. We have to find a way to feed the vampires without sacrificing people. Synthetic blood that is nourishing for vampires maybe?
I think the vamps don't drink Blood like food but as a medium to get someone's "essence" which i believe to be a Soul of a human

[X] Plan Logistics, Research & Outsourcing
 
Out of curiosity if we developed the gene editing would it be possible to use it on the Wereolfs to cure them down the line if we pursued that research path? Same with vampires as well to be honest though I hold out less hope for that and it's likely to be harder considering they're actively resisting all the time.

Also short term solution to the problem with the werewolf containment, is it possible to let the infected intermingle and have community housing for them outside of full moon times. So they're still in isolation from the uninfected but get proper human contact.
 
Werewolves appear to be infected with a protein/prion. It's unlikely that gene editing can cure them.

But with the right treatments it is likely able to help, and there are so, so many things unknown about the way magic works that anything might happen. UNDC simply has no idea. We're firmly in the 'throw stuff at the wall and study what sticks' area of magic sciencing.
 
[X] Plan Slight Diversion
-[X] Ushaia Air Base (+log/maint, plan goal), 4OD, 120R, 4 cap (+log, +maint, plan goal)
-[X] Rail and Road Expansion, 2OD, 40R, 2 cap (+log, +cs)
-[X] Logistical Port Construction
--[X] Vitoria (Brazil) 1D, 20R, 2 cap
--[X] Montevideo (Argentina) 1D, 20R, 2 cap
--[X] Port Elizabeth (South Africa) 1D, 20R, 2 cap
--[X] Chennai (India) 1D, 20R, 2 cap
--[X] Wenzhou (China) 1MilD, 20R, 2 cap
-[X] UNDC Auxiliary Ship Fleet (Phase 3), 4 OD, 260R, 4 cap
-[X] Fuel Extraction and Refining Expansion (Phase 6), 2 OD, 40R, 2 cap
-[X] Utility Vehicle Production Complexes
--[X] Glasgow, 1OD, 30R, 1 cap (plan goal)
-[X] Medical Support Ships, 2OD, 50R, 2 cap (+med, +log)
-[X] Human Magical Sensitivity Research, 1D, 20R, 1 cap (+CS, plan goal?)
-[X] Magic Geometry Research Program, 1D, 25R, 1 cap (+CS, plan goal?)
-[X] Antarctica Anomaly Research Expedition, 2D, 70R, 4 cap (plan goal)
-[X] Psychological Health Service, 3OD, 45R, 3 cap (plan goal)
-[X] Lycain Inhibitor Protein Development, 2 DARPA dice
-[X] HE Shell Factory Plants, 3OD, 90R, 3 cap (+ammo)
-[X] Hail Missile Plant, 1OD, 30R, 1 cap (+ammo)
-[X] ASM/AGM Missile Factories (Phase 1), 4 OD, 120R, 5 cap (+ammo)
-[X] Frigate Yard Construction
--[X] Ullapool, 1IndD, 2D, 75R, 6 cap (plan goal)
-[X] Convene with Cairngorms Spirits for assistance, 1D, 2 cap
--[X] Is there an alternate way for vampires to derive sustenance other than killing and eating people? (I swear, if you just say "yes" or "no", I'm going to burn the whole goddamn forest down, "lol jk")
-[X] Seek National Space Program Assistance, 1D, 2 cap (towards plan goal)
-[X] Plan UNDC Space Lift Capabilities, 2D, 4 cap (towards plan goal)

I count 55 dice cap, and a whopping 1135 resources. Good lord.

I was originally going to go "all in" on naval stuff, but two problems have emerged that need to be addressed. First, we have an issue with our logistics; second, our military forces apparently don't have any ammo to shoot at the bad guys. So, I kind of had to scale our naval ambitions back a little bit.

Infrastructure-wise, this plan goes "all in" on logistics. Five logistics ports get started, along with building roads and rails to get to them; Ushaia gets a good number of dice so we can fly supplies over to Antarctica for the upcoming expedition. We also, crank out another round of auxiliary fleet ships.

Industry wise, we put one die into the Glasgow utility vehicle plant to hopefully finish it off (or put it into 100% guaranteed with a die territory next quarter), then get some more fuel lined up so we don't have to keep buying the overpriced and watered down Saudi and American crap once all our new ships come online.

Service-wise, we continue some magical research we've started, hopefully finish off the medical fleet, start working on Antarctica, and start working on the psychological services, so that when the guys come back from Antarctica, our options for mental health aren't limited to "take a week off, go get drunk". We throw DARPA dice towards Lycain Inhibitor so we can hopefully stop keeping werewolf-infected individuals on ice forever.

In military terms, we address our ammo problems by building a bunch of ammo that's useful against our current opposition - artillery and air-to-ground ordnance. We still get started on frigate construction yards, though.

Our Admin guys will be busy talking to people and try to get our orbital launch capabilities going.
 
That got me thinking and I have to admit that there is a problem that needs to be solved. I mean there will be vampires who drink more blood than they have to, but it is difficult even for the others and I have sympathy with them. It would be the same as if people, e.g. Could only feed on chickens and then the chickens find out about it and say stop. What should the vampires do? Starve?

So I'm against genocide. We have to find a way to feed the vampires without sacrificing people. Synthetic blood that is nourishing for vampires maybe?
I'm pretty sure vampires who don't feed on actual people become nonsentient.

There may just legitimately be no way to "fix" this that doesn't, at a minimum, involve every vampire killing dozens of people while we research a cure.

I don't think that an obligate cannibal (that is, someone who has to eat people, not just meat or blood but people) to live really has much of a claim to a right to life of their own. Even if it'd arguably be "genocide" to make them stop killing and eating people.

I figure that we should do one at time. Do werewolves this turn and then vampires next turn as doing both at the same time feels like trying to game the system since we are trying to ask two questions when we are only supposed to be asking one.
Maybe we should be asking "how can we simplify communications" first. It'd be kind of awkward, when we are bottlenecked by the number of questions we can ask, to realize that we could have been asking 2/turn for several turns.
 
...Ace pilots from that are pure BS. I mean, the sheer capabilities caused that verse to be behind on military strategy and tactics because wars typically boiled down to conflict between the aces. At least the sane ammunition counts limits stuff like traumatizing a whole nation to the point whole armies could break and rout on seeing one of the veteran aces...
Now one question is if there might be potential for similar notables in other fields, since it seems to be something tied to the comeback of magic...
Nah, there is a much simpler reason for this. You see, I respect people who play DCS and like realistic air combat, but I find it to be excruciatingly unfun when air engagements are decided by which side has a few seconds advantage in the combined system made up of radar, jamming, stealth, tracking, missile-speed and countermeasures. Nothing puts me to sleep more than people microanalysing the performance and stats of real aircraft. So as the QM I am upfront about it and declare that while these factors are all important, one side wont win because their theater wide radar network has a 1% better target acquisition or something. Experience, grit and strength of will of pilots remains a larger factor overall, which I think makes for a better "fun" story.
 
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Maybe we should be asking "how can we simplify communications" first. It'd be kind of awkward, when we are bottlenecked by the number of questions we can ask, to realize that we could have been asking 2/turn for several turns.
Probably, but I want to do something to help the people infected with lycain. I'll stick with asking about a werewolf cure for now and then next turn ask them about better methods of communications rather than vampires.
 
[X] Plan Logistics, Research & Outsourcing

Finally caught up. The opportunity of being able to vote for current legislation is great.
 
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