I don't think we should start refurbishing our logistics lines before we restructure the logistics office, nor should we address the oil situation before our security forces are 100% established.
We're going to need 3-4 dice to fix the logistics office in one go. The other logistics stuff can be started before that's done without impacting it because those dice count against different dice caps.
 
Allright and after sleeping on it for a night I am going to make a soft retcon, as in I am keeping the numbers as they are, but Sokolov did not Really provide 150 Resources of Desaster Relief. I am keeping vague how much money one resource is for Gameplay purposes, but 150 would be somewhere in the realm of 75 to 15 billion dollars, which is ludicrous and would have definitely cost you CS, but alas I did not think long enough about it. In the future I will try and do a better job taking such details into account, but for now how about it was 15-30 Resources instead, unless someone has objections.

I gotta say, the development list looks a little odd for the threat we're facing. I see options for Strategic Air Defense and developing IFVs and APCs, but our main problem right now seems to be errant werewolves and so on?

Maybe we'll be fighting an onslaught of dragons or something, but right now I'd be more interested in an Occult division than anything else.
[]Set Up Supernatural Tracking Bureau would be the first step towards getting that, but I might make []Supernatural Investigation Bureau an option anyways if you are too slow, the RnD Division might help too. The other thing is that nothing observed so far could not be faced with copius amounts of violence, the more spooky(TM) stuff will show up at some point, but until then General Merin and the other two COs I have not revealed yet are mostly interested in getting new toys that make big boom and more precise boom.
 
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Scheduled vote count started by BOTcommander on Aug 6, 2021 at 4:08 PM, finished with 41 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Plan Getting Ready
    -[X] Headquarters Construction (Stage 2), 3 Dice (45R & 83.33%)
    -[X] Source Design Licenses, 2 Dice (60R & 51.49%)
    -[X] ABC Deconstruction Operations (Phase 1), 2 Dice (50R & 51.49%)
    -[X] Restructure Staff Office, 2 Dice (10R & 51.49%)
    -[X] Restructure Logistical Office, 2 Dice (15R & 13.26%)
    -[X] Review Security Forces, 1 Die
    -[X] Suez Base Expansion (Phase 1), 2 Dice (50R & 51.49%)
    -[X] Organisational Cooperation Initiatives, 3 Die (99.63%/98.16%/94.76%/88.64%)
    [X]Plan: Boots on the Ground
    - [X]Headquarters Construction (Stage 2) (2 Dice, 30 resources)
    - [X]Rail and Road Connection Refurbishment (1 Die, 10 resources)
    - [X]ABC Deconstruction Operations (Phase 1) (2 Dice, 50 resources)
    - [X]Restructure Staff Office (2 Dice, 10 resources)
    - [X]Set Up Supernatural Tracking Bureau (2 Dice, 30 resources)
    -[X] Review Security Forces, 1 Die
    - [X]Establish Internal Security Division (2 Dice, 30 resources)
    - [X]Military Headquarters Construction (Stage 1) (2 Dice, 50 resources)
    - [X]Utility Vehicle Procurement Program (1 Die, 20 resources)
    - [X]Infantry Rifle Procurement Program (1 Die, 20 resources)
    - [X]Address the Oil Situation (1 Die)
 
Afk, I saw this too late to argue for the tracking bureau being ducking important considering we have NO good intel about the threat yet.
 
Afk, I saw this too late to argue for the tracking bureau being ducking important considering we have NO good intel about the threat yet.
Nobody is arguing that the magical tracking isn't important. What is being argued is how important it is and if it is more important than literally finding how many people work for us or figuring out what basic equipment we are using.
 
Were it not for the video evidence I would have called such violence cruel, but the subject was able to fight even after a direct hit with a fragmentation grenade. The wounds have shown signs of healing, but all cellular activity ceased two hours after death. The regenerative factor is remarkable, there are signs of heavy bone fractures and even teeth having regenerated.
I think we are gonna need bigger guns, so we might wanna start the R&D branch soon. Or at least whatever occult action that would test if silver bullets would be a substitute for overwhelming power.
[]Military Grade Gear Deployment (Stage 1)
The werewolf incident has shown that some of the creatures are capable of decimating trained military personnel. If we wish to provide enough security UNDC has to increase the capabilities of their security forces.
(0/200 15 Resources per Die)
And well, we probably want to eventually upgrade our security forces considering some supernatural beings may eventually decide to infiltrate our facilities.
 
I'm gonna fucking roll and you cant stop me :p

[X] Plan Getting Ready
-[X] Headquarters Construction (Stage 2), 3 Dice (45R & 83.33%)
-[X] Source Design Licenses, 2 Dice (60R & 51.49%)
-[X] ABC Deconstruction Operations (Phase 1), 2 Dice (50R & 51.49%)
-[X] Restructure Staff Office, 2 Dice (10R & 51.49%)
-[X] Restructure Logistical Office, 2 Dice (15R & 13.26%)
-[X] Review Security Forces, 1 Die
-[X] Suez Base Expansion (Phase 1), 2 Dice (50R & 51.49%)
-[X] Organisational Cooperation Initiatives, 3 Die (99.63%/98.16%/94.76%/88.64%)

Edit: I fucked up the first time with the HQ and Licence rolls, ignore those.
BOTcommander threw 3 6-faced dice. Reason: Headquarters Construction Total: 10
4 4 1 1 5 5
BOTcommander threw 2 6-faced dice. Reason: Source Design Licenses Total: 7
4 4 3 3
BOTcommander threw 3 100-faced dice. Reason: Headquarters Construction II Total: 169
94 94 61 61 14 14
BOTcommander threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Source Design Licenses Total: 75
42 42 33 33
BOTcommander threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: ABC Deconstruction Operations Total: 83
54 54 29 29
BOTcommander threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Restructure Staff Office Total: 96
63 63 33 33
BOTcommander threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Restructure Logistical Office Total: 108
25 25 83 83
BOTcommander threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Review Security Forces Total: 46
46 46
BOTcommander threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Suez Base Expansion (Phase 1) Total: 74
20 20 54 54
BOTcommander threw 3 100-faced dice. Reason: Organisational Cooperation Ini Total: 75
12 12 34 34 29 29
 
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Mathpost
Headquarters Construction (Stage 2) 267/200; (Stage 3) 67/300
Source Design Licenses 75/100
ABC Deconstruction Operations (Phase 1) 83/100
Restructure Staff Office 96/100
Restructure Logistical Office 109/150
Review Security Forces 46, not too bad, not too good
Suez Base Expansion (Phase 1) 74/100
Organisational Cooperation Initiatives 75
 
Mathpost
Headquarters Construction (Stage 2) 267/200; (Stage 3) 67/300
Source Design Licenses 75/100
ABC Deconstruction Operations (Phase 1) 83/100
Restructure Staff Office 96/100
Restructure Logistical Office 109/150
Review Security Forces 46, not too bad, not too good
Suez Base Expansion (Phase 1) 74/100
Organisational Cooperation Initiatives 75
The dice were not kind. Outside of our HQ and logistics office, we rolled lower than average and even those two were barely above average. So we will have 18 Dice Capacity and 53 Council Support next turn alongside several mostly finished projects.

Source Design and ABC Deconstruction Operations will both get another die because I'm not sure those projects are ones we want to risk pausing and the latter is certainly not. Another die on staff office and also one on logistical office to hopefully get those finished, which leaves 3 Service Dice spare. With those, I am leaning towards putting two on magic tracking and the final one on internal R&D. Beyond that, one or two security dice on our internal security division, another die on Suez to hopefully get it done. Finally, at least one more military review and a die on the disaster relief limit, possible another on the oil situation.

That will use up 11 to 13 Dice, leaving the plan with another 5 to 7 to make use of in addition to costing 5 CS and 155 to 170 Resources.
 
Q2 2010 Results
Q2 2010 Results

Unicorn Dissection
"Doctor Natalie Libert here, doing a final report on the unicorn cadaver. After Doctor Bernard finished his examination with some difficulties, he was confused to find the unicorn's anatomy to be mostly congruent with that of a normal horse and send the rest to me for more detailed analyses. He is right, the subject is a horse, anatomically and genetically, safe for some microscopic differences that caused his problems. First is the unicorn's skin. Bernard found it difficult to cut, that is because the outer membrane of the skin cells is covered by a natural occuring form of graphene, that gives its skin great resistance towards slashing and piercing damage. The hunter was not actually able to pierce its skin, the bullet caused a brain fracture, you will understand later, when it hit the head. The muscles and tendons are similarly reinforced with carbon fibres. The most anomalous thing I found are the unicorn nervous systems and bones. The bones are mostly made up from chemically pure elemental diamond, around 60% by volume. The nerves are coated in what I can only describe as microscopic diamond rings, up into the brain, which, most surprisingly, is a pure diamond mass filling out the skull cavity, with a piece of it growing out the unicorn's forehead as its "horn". The bullet was able to hit the unicorn at exactly the right angle to cause a fracture in the diamond, explaining the death, but I am not sure I can explain how such a creature can "live" exactly."


Headquarters Construction (Stage 2) 267/200; (Stage 3) 67/300
Underground construction of the UNDC tower has been completed with the general public unaware of the extent of the cellar facilities. Beyond parking lots, storage and maintenance is another 50 levels of what will be administrative facilities complete with emergency life support and power generation for the whole tower under meters of protective concrete and steel plating. With the site now proved against attacks and natural disasters that are common in the region, construction of the main tower has fully commenced, the skeletal metal and concrete frame growing a dozen meters every day.


Source Design Licenses 75/100
The process of sourcing design licenses has into the problem that is the aftermath of the great financial crisis. With some companies becoming bankrupt, being sold and/or nationalised some of the patents have been difficult to find the owner of. Another hurdle has been the expanding tree of sublicenses being used in some designs, with something like a battle tank or a fighter jet sourcing parts from more than a dozen different subcontractors.


ABC Deconstruction Operations (Phase 1) 83/100
Destruction of the hundreds of tons of chemical agents has begun. Too dangerous to be transported far, the barrels are stored and burned in the facilities that made them, where destruction furnaces have been hastily erected. The process requires absolute caution, as the facilities are substandard and many of the agents are highly volatile.

Restructure Staff Office 96/100
The restructuring of the Staff Office is nearly completed. With most of the files digitized, they have been compiled into a single data archive that is moved to HQ in armored transports. With the amount of classified data already stored on computers, talks have begun on the topics of secure backups, but so far no project has been proposed.


Restructure Logistical Office 109/150
In a similar vein the Logistics Office has benefitted from the access to computers, with shipments now easily manageable from a single interface. While many have welcomed the use of modern administrative tools, some have not. Director Nobuo was quick to point out how the tools are reliant on easily-disrupted systems. He has made the creation of both the internal security division and a dedicated cybersecurity division a priority


Review Security Forces 46
The Security Forces are less sophisticated than expected. Aside from the few well trained and equipped units guarding important military locations, the rest are mostly civilians, usually equipped with non-lethal weapons and a simple sidearm. With talks of heavily militarizingthe security forces, Merin has made the proposal to put the current forces under the UNDC armed forces banner and make security a military matter.
-[]Merge Military and Security Categories
-[]Do not merge Military and Security Categories

Merging will put Security Forces in the Military category in a similar vein to Ground Forces, Air Force and Navy. Security Dice will become Military Dice and the Military Dice Bonus will be used. On an additional note, Security Reviews would use Military Dice and Dice used for Security Reviews would not count towards the Dice Limit.


Suez Base Expansion (Phase 1) 74/100
Construction at several locations around the Suez has begun in earnest with some of the older sites renovated and new ones built, now with steel and concrete instead of tents and poorly ventilated prefab buildings. Progress has been slow, with the bad logistical and industrial state in the region to blame for the poor delivery times of the huge concrete blocks to be used as the new base walls.


Organisational Cooperation Initiatives 75
30: Japan Business Federation (JBF)
In his effort to make Japan more important on the geopolitical stage, Director Nobuo has assisted in dealing with the JBF, making the whole task easier. While they are still wary, they are definitely interested in cooperation and after long negotiations have settled onto an acceptable initial deal.
Offers:
-Industry Advisors: +5 on Industry Dice
-Dedicated Capacity: +2 Org Industry Dice
Demands:
-At least 10 Org Industry Dice used before the end of the budget cycle
-Completion of two Industry Projects in Japan
-[]JPF: Accept Cooperation
-[]JPF: Do not Cooperation

50: AeroSpace and Defense Association of Europe (ASD)
As the financial crisis took effect many of the Euronations were the first to slash defense funding, leaving many of their national contractors dry in the water. Initially trying to drive a hard bargain with the situation being that the American, Russian and Chinese arms companies have so far declined deals with the UNDC out of fear of corporate espionage. Karoline Becker, assisting in negotiation, had none of it, using the leverage she had from managing industry bailing funds to make the initial deal acceptable for all parties, the ASD accepting the deal that would for now keep their staff employed as the economy recovers.
Offers:
-Military Advisors: +10 on Military Dice
-Security Advisors: +5 on Security Dice
-Dedicated Capacity: +2 Org Security Dice, +2 Org Military Dice
-The Org Die extra cost for the Dice provided by the ASD is waived until the end of the budget cycle
Demands:
-All Org Dice provided by the ASD used every turn until end of the budget cycle
-[]ASD: Accept Cooperation
-[]ASD: Do not Cooperation

70: China State Construction Engineering Corporation (CSCEC)
The Chinese government, initially uninterested in cooperating, quickly became more interested as the talk went away from arms and industry and more towards infrastructure and general construction. The CSCEC accepted a deal that left even Sokolov suspicious, suspecting Beijing seeing this a good way to begin relations with the UNDC without compromising their trade security.
Offers:
-Infrastructure Advisors: +10 on Infrastructure Dice
-Dedicated Capacity: +3 Org Infrastructure Dice
Demands:
-2 Completion of two Infrastructure projects in China before end of Budget Cycle
-[]CSCEC: Accept Cooperation
-[]CSCEC: Do not Cooperation

Org Dice: Org Dice represent action that is made with less oversight by a partner organisation. When used Org Dice cost an additional 5 resources over the normal cost of the projects, even if the project would normally cost no resources per die, but also only take up 0.5 Dice Capacity both in regards to the absolute dice limit and Sokolovs broad focus trait. For fairness sake I will allow you to go up 0.5 more than your current dice capacity, in this case 18.5. One Budget Cycle if 4 years.
 
[X] Merge Military and Security Categories

Okay, I think we should merge them because it gives us more versatility to have them all in one category than split between two. Also, I agree with Merin that it is preferable to just have a military police over heavily militarising a civilian security force.

Also, we don't need to worry about civilian security because that is ultimately not our job as member governments should be doing that. If that sort of thing does become our concern on more than a temporary or emergency basis, then we can deal with that then. At the end of the day, we aren't a government, we aren't the police, we are a military. If that changes, then we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

[X] JPF: Accept Cooperation
[X] ASD: Accept Cooperation
[X] CSCEC: Accept Cooperation

I say we should go for all of them. The Europe one means just expanding our military assets every turn, which is something we can afford to do and should be doing, especially since the extra cost is wavered. Not to mention that bonus will be useful.

For the Japanese one, we should be able to get a couple projects done in Japan and given that we have until the end of 2013 to use 10 Org Industry Dice, it should be plenty doable. As for the Chinese, just as we can do two projects in Japan, we can do two in China and that bonus looks pretty nice. Also we will get access to the projects in Japan, China and other countries once we do the basic ones like sourcing our design licenses or refurbishing our airfields and naval bases.
 
[X] Merge Military and Security Categories
[X] JPF: Accept Cooperation
[X] ASD: Accept Cooperation
[X] CSCEC: Accept Cooperation
 
[X] Merge Military and Security Categories
[X] JPF: Accept Cooperation
[X] ASD: Accept Cooperation
[X] CSCEC: Do Not Cooperation

Sokolov is suspicious of the Chinese offer so perhaps we should decline it. The extra dice are nice, but we might be over-extending ourselves if we accept all three at this time.

EDIT: removed the plan title
 
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[X] Merge Military and Security Categories
[X] JPF: Accept Cooperation
[X] ASD: Accept Cooperation
[X] CSCEC: Do Not Cooperation
 
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