[X]Give the Program to the Rosoboronexport (No roll for Offensive quality)(Reroll Submarine quality, higher roll is used)(Required to buy three blocks of Tigersharks)
Attempting to avoid Disaster: An Earth Defense Plan Quest
- Thread starter BOTcommander
- Start date
- Original Sci-Fi Fantasy
Q2 2015 Results Part 2
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- He/Him
Q2 2015 Results Part 2
Decide the fate of the Kemonomimi
Rei'na Goldsmith woke up to the sound of the small timepiece, fox-like ears twitching at the now all too familiar sound. With a sigh she sat up and carefully pressed the button on top of it to silence it. A strange device; as first wife of Sidra's nominated leader she had seen mechanists produce complex clockwork contraptions of brass gears and springs to tell the time, powered by magical gemstones, but this one used neither mechanical or magical means. Just another of the mysteries of this strange land.
She laid her hand upon the effigies of the Great Father and Mother, one of the few personal items that had survived the journey, thanking them for their guidance and protection, before she got up and dressed herself.
Her two surviving children were getting ready for the day as well, woken up by the same device. The…accommodations provided by their benefactors kept out the cold, but it was all but spacious, yet she could not complain when other families had to share the same space among ten or more. At least every one of them had their own bed and private space, divided by thin cloth walls.
Her daughter Kli'le was already dressed in the clothing the benefactors had provided, a strange and unfitting outfit for a child of nobility, but a definite improvement over her old clothes that barely fit after the two year long journey. She sat at the small metal table she had already set with the help of her older brother. Rin had rarely spoken a word since they passed through the portal, but he was at least up and doing things, which was an improvement.
Thanking the Great Father and Mother and their benefactors they began to eat in silence. Bread, butter, cheese and the other foods, some more marvelous, some less, had lost their novelty after the many moons they had spent here. Kli'le ears began twitching, a sure tell sign she wanted to go and play with her friends.
"You may go." She told her daughter, smiling as the girl started beaming from ear to ear, ears standing to attention before she bolted out of the accommodations outside. "I'll be back at three pm."
Rei'na did not yet fully grasp how the benefactors' time, but the youngest among them had been the quickest to grasp how this world worked. As she cleared the table, reminiscing how a servant used to take care of such matters, she glanced at her son. The young man appeared lost in this new situation they found themselves in. She guessed that after the loss of his father and his elder brother he deemed himself the man in the family, feeling a sense to protect them. But with the passing of the world tear, the skinwalker threat had vanished and as much as their benefactors were kind, they were also oppressive, their strangely armed soldiers had taken all their weapons from them, not tolerating resistance or infighting where they went. The language barrier did not make it better. The benefactor was a mysterious and unstoppable force, one that had revealed their workings only slowly over the last months as the language barrier had crumbled.
Adjusting her hair in the lavishly large mirror in the small cleaning room, she readied herself to get out, getting into the warm and rugged coat that was all that was left of her husband, and left the accommodations. Their momentary situation may have left her with not much actual power, but she was still the only surviving member of the noble Sidran council and it was her duty to listen to the worries and complaints of her people, it was the least she could do.
Summer was beginning, she believed so at least. And people had started gathering more and more in the outdoor areas the benefactors created, singing songs, telling stories or playing games, elders and teachers taught the children, reading, writing and history. The benefactors had not provided much opportunity to occupy themselves with more productive outlets, they had locked her people in an golden cage, she eyes the metal fencing at the edge of the camp, at the toothed metal wire atop it, a golden cage with thorns.
She took a moment to speak with the people of Sidra where she found them and offered polite words of greeting to the Leuko and Merens she met as well greeting the benefactor's guards making their rounds in what little she had learned of their language. Reactions ranged from equally polite to hostile. The benefactors at least had improved their treatment of her, realizing her status over the last moons and always offered polite greetings in their language back.
United Nations Defense Command. Terms that only had tangential equivalents in her language. The United Nations were an alliance of powerful nations in this world that spanned the whole globe, she understood that, but the concept had not been elaborated much further, despite her questions. Defense Command was more complex. It seemed to be similar to a knightly order or the monster hunters guild, not directly under the command of the United Nations, meant for the defense and again this opened up the question, defense from what? The stories had told of the Cradle as a safe place for all of humankind, free from the meddling and interference of the Celestials and Immaterials, protected by the Great Father himself, from where they all originated and to where they would all return to one day.
And yet the first thing they had found were the automata of the lifebringer, half-intelligent creations of magic. It had easily overpowered their tired warriors, but instead of killing them and extracting their essence it had brought them to the benefactors. Now automata were watching them from behind the fence, the wooden forms towering over the thin metal wires dividing them from it, yet even stranger the Benefactors seem to have a positive relationship with this one, greeting it and it even waving back with its branches.
The Cradle was not what everyone had hoped for.
"Mother", the voice of Kli'le returned her to reality. Rei'na turned around to see her in the company of Miss Louise Banks, a wise woman focused on languages, and two Benefactor guards. Banks petted Kli'le's head smiling and handed her one of the sweet treats the benefactors used to bribe them with.
"Lady Goldsmith", Banks greeted her, her accent still noticeable, but Rei'na appreciated the effort. "Come with us."
"Is there a problem?"
"No", Banks shook her head. "Someone has arrived, a representative…a leader…a general?" She switched through a few words, seemingly not sure of the right words, but Rei'na understood. "Lead the way then."
They entered the large gray building at the edge of the camp where Banks and her people had questioned Rei'na and her people, slowly learning their language. This time however she was not greeted by her team with the strange devices, but by a single man in unassuming clothing, flanked by two guards. Opposite of him were the surviving members of the Noble Leuko and Meren councils.
She guessed the man had to be important, despite his unassuming looks. Rei'na noticed herself staring and composed herself. Yes their ears were different, but it was impolite to stare. Banks sat down next to him, presumably serving as a translator.
"Have you been treated well? You can speak freely." Banks, or, more accurately, he, began. "My name is Dan Bowman. I represent the UNDCs leader."
Next to her, Grif, the old warrior leader, scoffed. 'Treated well' is a rather relative description, given we have been caged in like animals for moons."
"Also without weapons." A Leuko noble chimed in.
"Necessary for security. Both of us have illnesses the other one had no defenses against and your weapons were confiscated to avoid inter-group violence."
"This is none of your concern."
"But it is. You are on our territory and in our care. So I take from that that the guards have treated your people well? No cases of assault, sexual or otherwise?"
Rei'na coughed at the question. What a strange thing to ask, but the humans native to the Cradle were different, that much was clear. "I have heard of no such thing." She replied, the others echoing the sentiment, but she could not help but feel the two guards glanced at Dan Bowman with a suppressed disdain as he made a note in a ledger.
"Very well. I am here to talk about the future." He closed the ledger. "The UNDC has decided your people have remained in its care for long enough and it is time to discuss your integration into global human society."
The five animal-folk stared dumbfounded at him. Rei'na was the first to break the silence. "What do you mean with integration?"
"Ah right, from the reports we got from Banks and the guards we got the impression you could essentially continue your old lives on a plot of land somewhere. The modern geopolitical landscape however makes this politically difficult. Advances in agricultural knowledge have made subsistence farming a thing of the past and no government would accept one or more independent enclaves in their territory."
"So what are you asking us for then?"
Dan Bowman smiled weakly. "There are three possible ways going forward. I shall explain them to you, then you can tell me which one you would like most and my chiefs will try to take your wishes into account."
"Fine", Rei'na sighed. "Explain then."
"So first one is a normal process most United Nations members have called Asylum. Because of war or political persecution you can become guests of different nations, normally with the expectation that you return home. This is impossible, so eventually you or your descendants become citizens of the host nations. You will be subject to those nations' laws and authorities and there is no promise for keeping you together beyond immediate family members."
"Unacceptable", one of the nobles growled and stood up. "You can't just pull people apart like that."
He shrugged. "I am just laying out the facts: Second option." He continued, not caring further about the aggressive gesture. "Become the guests of a specific nation and eventually you or your descendants become citizens of their host nation.
You will be expected to integrate over time, accommodations will be made for your cultural practices so long as they are not illegal. There may by law be substantial protections for your cultural practices, depending on the host, and you will be due the same protections as any given citizen of the host nation. Efforts will be made to keep your people close together."
"This does sound better." Rei'na said, glancing at the other four. "And the last one?"
"We ask the United Nations for a territory somewhere for you to settle in, in a world you do not know, with your only protection being weapons we have long discarded for better ones and the goodwill of their neighbors, outnumbered and easy prey for unscrupulous individuals."
(Vote for one)
[]Have them go through the normal Asylum seeking process (Results ???)
The kemonomimi will be scattered across a large number of nations as asylum seekers.
[]Convince (State-Entity Write-in) to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
Try to convince a specific nation (or the EU) to take in the kemonomimi as asylum seekers, with an effort towards keeping the entire 18 000 strong population together.
[]Get them a micro-nation somewhere (-40CS)(Results ???)
Ask the United Nations to arrange a territory for the kemonomimi to settle in. While the UNHCR and other UN administrative bodies will no doubt work to ensure they are taken care of through various development and aid programs, keeping their nation safe from outside actors will be on the kemonomimi themselves..
[]Write-In
Maybe someone has another idea. Requires QM approval.
Convene with Cairngorms Spirits for assistance (What can you tell us about the vampyres?)
Hardtmann was searching for Cairngorm. The tree being was rarely far away, but right now it seemed to be hiding from him, something its plant-like looks aided it greatly.
"Cairngorm, show yourself. The UNDC needs information."
From below him came a high pitched whistling. Looking down he saw the beer can sized root-like spirit form standing before its boots. Carefully he picked it up and went over to the specialized observation room. Without anti-magic metals that could cause pain.
As the locks closed behind him he put the small plant creature on the table in front of one microphone and sat down, giving the people behind him the go ahead to start the recording and transmission.
"What does the UNDC require from us?" The voice was quiet, high pitched and melodic, coming from the root like being but being generated by no obvious part of it.
"Information about Vampyres. We want to know what you know about them."
"Vampyres in general or the ones of this world?"
Hardtmann raised an eyebrow. "Would that make a difference?"
"It would. We are bound to not reveal most information we know about them by an ancient contract written in blood, as much as we would like to. However, we can tell you everything we have heard about the creature that is the Spawn of the Voidshadow."
"So, what would you want?"
"We desire access to the internet."
The General paused. "You what?"
"We saw it in the memories of the Children provided. We want to experience it."
"But why?"
"To learn about non-UNDC humans. You keep them away from us, hide us like a dangerous secret. We wish to learn, we want to understand."
He sighed. I'm gonna ask the Secretary about it, but no promises.
(Vote for one)
[]Accept.
[]Deny
[]Make a counteroffer (Write-In)
Apply for the position of Director
It is late Friday evening, when Sokolov begins with his application for the UNDC directorate. The process begins with drafting his Agenda for the next four-year budget cycle. Every Agenda starts with a name, Nobuo's current "Global Peacekeeping Navy", Merin's proposed "Superior Firepower", Shen's "Third Industrial Revolution" and Hardtmann's "Ironclad Security", short and descriptive to get the attention of the Councillors.
Then comes a short sentence, with subtitles, to give a quick description of the Agenda. "Provide the UNDC with global sea peacekeeping capabilities", "Increase the offensive assets of the UNDC", "Invest in next generation manufacturing technology" and "Increase the Strength of the UNDC security services", respectively. Sokolov smiles and starts to type.
(Vote for one)
[]Write-in
Decide the fate of the Kemonomimi
Rei'na Goldsmith woke up to the sound of the small timepiece, fox-like ears twitching at the now all too familiar sound. With a sigh she sat up and carefully pressed the button on top of it to silence it. A strange device; as first wife of Sidra's nominated leader she had seen mechanists produce complex clockwork contraptions of brass gears and springs to tell the time, powered by magical gemstones, but this one used neither mechanical or magical means. Just another of the mysteries of this strange land.
She laid her hand upon the effigies of the Great Father and Mother, one of the few personal items that had survived the journey, thanking them for their guidance and protection, before she got up and dressed herself.
Her two surviving children were getting ready for the day as well, woken up by the same device. The…accommodations provided by their benefactors kept out the cold, but it was all but spacious, yet she could not complain when other families had to share the same space among ten or more. At least every one of them had their own bed and private space, divided by thin cloth walls.
Her daughter Kli'le was already dressed in the clothing the benefactors had provided, a strange and unfitting outfit for a child of nobility, but a definite improvement over her old clothes that barely fit after the two year long journey. She sat at the small metal table she had already set with the help of her older brother. Rin had rarely spoken a word since they passed through the portal, but he was at least up and doing things, which was an improvement.
Thanking the Great Father and Mother and their benefactors they began to eat in silence. Bread, butter, cheese and the other foods, some more marvelous, some less, had lost their novelty after the many moons they had spent here. Kli'le ears began twitching, a sure tell sign she wanted to go and play with her friends.
"You may go." She told her daughter, smiling as the girl started beaming from ear to ear, ears standing to attention before she bolted out of the accommodations outside. "I'll be back at three pm."
Rei'na did not yet fully grasp how the benefactors' time, but the youngest among them had been the quickest to grasp how this world worked. As she cleared the table, reminiscing how a servant used to take care of such matters, she glanced at her son. The young man appeared lost in this new situation they found themselves in. She guessed that after the loss of his father and his elder brother he deemed himself the man in the family, feeling a sense to protect them. But with the passing of the world tear, the skinwalker threat had vanished and as much as their benefactors were kind, they were also oppressive, their strangely armed soldiers had taken all their weapons from them, not tolerating resistance or infighting where they went. The language barrier did not make it better. The benefactor was a mysterious and unstoppable force, one that had revealed their workings only slowly over the last months as the language barrier had crumbled.
Adjusting her hair in the lavishly large mirror in the small cleaning room, she readied herself to get out, getting into the warm and rugged coat that was all that was left of her husband, and left the accommodations. Their momentary situation may have left her with not much actual power, but she was still the only surviving member of the noble Sidran council and it was her duty to listen to the worries and complaints of her people, it was the least she could do.
Summer was beginning, she believed so at least. And people had started gathering more and more in the outdoor areas the benefactors created, singing songs, telling stories or playing games, elders and teachers taught the children, reading, writing and history. The benefactors had not provided much opportunity to occupy themselves with more productive outlets, they had locked her people in an golden cage, she eyes the metal fencing at the edge of the camp, at the toothed metal wire atop it, a golden cage with thorns.
She took a moment to speak with the people of Sidra where she found them and offered polite words of greeting to the Leuko and Merens she met as well greeting the benefactor's guards making their rounds in what little she had learned of their language. Reactions ranged from equally polite to hostile. The benefactors at least had improved their treatment of her, realizing her status over the last moons and always offered polite greetings in their language back.
United Nations Defense Command. Terms that only had tangential equivalents in her language. The United Nations were an alliance of powerful nations in this world that spanned the whole globe, she understood that, but the concept had not been elaborated much further, despite her questions. Defense Command was more complex. It seemed to be similar to a knightly order or the monster hunters guild, not directly under the command of the United Nations, meant for the defense and again this opened up the question, defense from what? The stories had told of the Cradle as a safe place for all of humankind, free from the meddling and interference of the Celestials and Immaterials, protected by the Great Father himself, from where they all originated and to where they would all return to one day.
And yet the first thing they had found were the automata of the lifebringer, half-intelligent creations of magic. It had easily overpowered their tired warriors, but instead of killing them and extracting their essence it had brought them to the benefactors. Now automata were watching them from behind the fence, the wooden forms towering over the thin metal wires dividing them from it, yet even stranger the Benefactors seem to have a positive relationship with this one, greeting it and it even waving back with its branches.
The Cradle was not what everyone had hoped for.
"Mother", the voice of Kli'le returned her to reality. Rei'na turned around to see her in the company of Miss Louise Banks, a wise woman focused on languages, and two Benefactor guards. Banks petted Kli'le's head smiling and handed her one of the sweet treats the benefactors used to bribe them with.
"Lady Goldsmith", Banks greeted her, her accent still noticeable, but Rei'na appreciated the effort. "Come with us."
"Is there a problem?"
"No", Banks shook her head. "Someone has arrived, a representative…a leader…a general?" She switched through a few words, seemingly not sure of the right words, but Rei'na understood. "Lead the way then."
They entered the large gray building at the edge of the camp where Banks and her people had questioned Rei'na and her people, slowly learning their language. This time however she was not greeted by her team with the strange devices, but by a single man in unassuming clothing, flanked by two guards. Opposite of him were the surviving members of the Noble Leuko and Meren councils.
She guessed the man had to be important, despite his unassuming looks. Rei'na noticed herself staring and composed herself. Yes their ears were different, but it was impolite to stare. Banks sat down next to him, presumably serving as a translator.
"Have you been treated well? You can speak freely." Banks, or, more accurately, he, began. "My name is Dan Bowman. I represent the UNDCs leader."
Next to her, Grif, the old warrior leader, scoffed. 'Treated well' is a rather relative description, given we have been caged in like animals for moons."
"Also without weapons." A Leuko noble chimed in.
"Necessary for security. Both of us have illnesses the other one had no defenses against and your weapons were confiscated to avoid inter-group violence."
"This is none of your concern."
"But it is. You are on our territory and in our care. So I take from that that the guards have treated your people well? No cases of assault, sexual or otherwise?"
Rei'na coughed at the question. What a strange thing to ask, but the humans native to the Cradle were different, that much was clear. "I have heard of no such thing." She replied, the others echoing the sentiment, but she could not help but feel the two guards glanced at Dan Bowman with a suppressed disdain as he made a note in a ledger.
"Very well. I am here to talk about the future." He closed the ledger. "The UNDC has decided your people have remained in its care for long enough and it is time to discuss your integration into global human society."
The five animal-folk stared dumbfounded at him. Rei'na was the first to break the silence. "What do you mean with integration?"
"Ah right, from the reports we got from Banks and the guards we got the impression you could essentially continue your old lives on a plot of land somewhere. The modern geopolitical landscape however makes this politically difficult. Advances in agricultural knowledge have made subsistence farming a thing of the past and no government would accept one or more independent enclaves in their territory."
"So what are you asking us for then?"
Dan Bowman smiled weakly. "There are three possible ways going forward. I shall explain them to you, then you can tell me which one you would like most and my chiefs will try to take your wishes into account."
"Fine", Rei'na sighed. "Explain then."
"So first one is a normal process most United Nations members have called Asylum. Because of war or political persecution you can become guests of different nations, normally with the expectation that you return home. This is impossible, so eventually you or your descendants become citizens of the host nations. You will be subject to those nations' laws and authorities and there is no promise for keeping you together beyond immediate family members."
"Unacceptable", one of the nobles growled and stood up. "You can't just pull people apart like that."
He shrugged. "I am just laying out the facts: Second option." He continued, not caring further about the aggressive gesture. "Become the guests of a specific nation and eventually you or your descendants become citizens of their host nation.
You will be expected to integrate over time, accommodations will be made for your cultural practices so long as they are not illegal. There may by law be substantial protections for your cultural practices, depending on the host, and you will be due the same protections as any given citizen of the host nation. Efforts will be made to keep your people close together."
"This does sound better." Rei'na said, glancing at the other four. "And the last one?"
"We ask the United Nations for a territory somewhere for you to settle in, in a world you do not know, with your only protection being weapons we have long discarded for better ones and the goodwill of their neighbors, outnumbered and easy prey for unscrupulous individuals."
(Vote for one)
[]Have them go through the normal Asylum seeking process (Results ???)
The kemonomimi will be scattered across a large number of nations as asylum seekers.
[]Convince (State-Entity Write-in) to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
Try to convince a specific nation (or the EU) to take in the kemonomimi as asylum seekers, with an effort towards keeping the entire 18 000 strong population together.
[]Get them a micro-nation somewhere (-40CS)(Results ???)
Ask the United Nations to arrange a territory for the kemonomimi to settle in. While the UNHCR and other UN administrative bodies will no doubt work to ensure they are taken care of through various development and aid programs, keeping their nation safe from outside actors will be on the kemonomimi themselves..
[]Write-In
Maybe someone has another idea. Requires QM approval.
Convene with Cairngorms Spirits for assistance (What can you tell us about the vampyres?)
Hardtmann was searching for Cairngorm. The tree being was rarely far away, but right now it seemed to be hiding from him, something its plant-like looks aided it greatly.
"Cairngorm, show yourself. The UNDC needs information."
From below him came a high pitched whistling. Looking down he saw the beer can sized root-like spirit form standing before its boots. Carefully he picked it up and went over to the specialized observation room. Without anti-magic metals that could cause pain.
As the locks closed behind him he put the small plant creature on the table in front of one microphone and sat down, giving the people behind him the go ahead to start the recording and transmission.
"What does the UNDC require from us?" The voice was quiet, high pitched and melodic, coming from the root like being but being generated by no obvious part of it.
"Information about Vampyres. We want to know what you know about them."
"Vampyres in general or the ones of this world?"
Hardtmann raised an eyebrow. "Would that make a difference?"
"It would. We are bound to not reveal most information we know about them by an ancient contract written in blood, as much as we would like to. However, we can tell you everything we have heard about the creature that is the Spawn of the Voidshadow."
"So, what would you want?"
"We desire access to the internet."
The General paused. "You what?"
"We saw it in the memories of the Children provided. We want to experience it."
"But why?"
"To learn about non-UNDC humans. You keep them away from us, hide us like a dangerous secret. We wish to learn, we want to understand."
He sighed. I'm gonna ask the Secretary about it, but no promises.
(Vote for one)
[]Accept.
[]Deny
[]Make a counteroffer (Write-In)
Apply for the position of Director
It is late Friday evening, when Sokolov begins with his application for the UNDC directorate. The process begins with drafting his Agenda for the next four-year budget cycle. Every Agenda starts with a name, Nobuo's current "Global Peacekeeping Navy", Merin's proposed "Superior Firepower", Shen's "Third Industrial Revolution" and Hardtmann's "Ironclad Security", short and descriptive to get the attention of the Councillors.
Then comes a short sentence, with subtitles, to give a quick description of the Agenda. "Provide the UNDC with global sea peacekeeping capabilities", "Increase the offensive assets of the UNDC", "Invest in next generation manufacturing technology" and "Increase the Strength of the UNDC security services", respectively. Sokolov smiles and starts to type.
(Vote for one)
[]Write-in
- Location
- California
How much support do we have, and could we move them to Scotland?
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
I'm not sure which is better. They are already in the UK, but Germany might treat them better. I also consider this the best compromise between securing the continuation of their culture without spending too much of our CS. I would rather go down to 33 CS than 13 CS.
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
If they want to learn, they can learn, but I don't want them interacting with the public and doing something or saying something that causes trouble for us.
I'm not sure about the last one. I'll think of something and post it later. I'm thinking of something of going well-rounded and increasing all of our capabilities rather than focusing on one thing.
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
I'm not sure which is better. They are already in the UK, but Germany might treat them better. I also consider this the best compromise between securing the continuation of their culture without spending too much of our CS. I would rather go down to 33 CS than 13 CS.
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
If they want to learn, they can learn, but I don't want them interacting with the public and doing something or saying something that causes trouble for us.
I'm not sure about the last one. I'll think of something and post it later. I'm thinking of something of going well-rounded and increasing all of our capabilities rather than focusing on one thing.
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trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
So are Marin, Shen, and Hardtmann also applying for Director?
Antarctic city-state time? Something something "providing logistical support and recreation facilities for research personnel studying antarctic anamolies while not requiring any existing state give up any territory" or the like.
Genolution
Hello there
- Location
- [DATA EXPUNGED]
I personally favour option 2 with regards to the kemonomimi. They already seem somewhat against option 1 as a community, and it would be tantamount to cultural genocide on a level (even if they are cultural practices that are incompatible with legal systems, there are likely a lot of others that would be destroyed by this level of dispersion). Especially when you consider that many cultures, especially heavily agricultural ones, often value extended families as the basis of family rearing and community organization rather than the nuclear family. Option 3 is plainly nonviable given how much CS we actually have and how it is suggested that their new micronation is kind of on its own.
While reservations are hardly nice setups (and rarely work like they're supposed to in practice), I want to ask what the CS cost would be to try and set up a system similar to indigenous reservations in Canada, where the residents have a level of control over their internal affairs according to their cultures while still being part of the state whose territory they reside in? Just as a sort of ballpark? @BOTcommander , is something like this a viable write in:
[ ] Convince (state entity) to grant them a reservation-style community with some self-administration while remaining subjects of the country based on an agreement that allows the kemonomimi to settle as a community (X CS).
Otherwise, I:
[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
In terms of the directorship plan vote I think based on Sokolov's policy, his Agenda should be something along the lines of:
[ ] Building a Durable Foundation: Secure the ability of the UNDC to support highly capable forces in varied theatres across the globe.
While reservations are hardly nice setups (and rarely work like they're supposed to in practice), I want to ask what the CS cost would be to try and set up a system similar to indigenous reservations in Canada, where the residents have a level of control over their internal affairs according to their cultures while still being part of the state whose territory they reside in? Just as a sort of ballpark? @BOTcommander , is something like this a viable write in:
[ ] Convince (state entity) to grant them a reservation-style community with some self-administration while remaining subjects of the country based on an agreement that allows the kemonomimi to settle as a community (X CS).
Otherwise, I:
[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
In terms of the directorship plan vote I think based on Sokolov's policy, his Agenda should be something along the lines of:
[ ] Building a Durable Foundation: Secure the ability of the UNDC to support highly capable forces in varied theatres across the globe.
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honestly any counteroffer which gives the forest access to the internet should probably have a clause that prevents them from diving too much too fast, or at least working their way up through various histories and documentaries to provide context for various things first rather than trying to go for everything.
Otherwise i could see it going very badly if they go through too much too fast without any sort of clarification on various things.
Otherwise i could see it going very badly if they go through too much too fast without any sort of clarification on various things.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[x]Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
We don't want the secret to get out after all
They're currently in the UK and presumably have already started to learn some english, especially the younger ones. Also, while the UK is currently going through an anti-immigrant phase there is the same everywhere and the UK is far from the most racist nation out there. As of 2019, an EU survey actually suggested the UK is better than most EU nations at least when it comes to "people of african descent", better than Germany even.
[x]Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
We don't want the secret to get out after all
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Which does not mean much in this alternate and strange history of 2015
... You want to put 18 000 people in the Antarctic, when they most likely have no clue as to how to survive there, or how to help the staff?
True. That does mean we have no idea where would be most accepting of them. That being said, UK is still IMO the better option. They don't have to move country, they are already starting to learn the language and the UK is a country with strong support for usWhich does not mean much in this alternate and strange history of 2015
Tbh, I'm just not a fan of seeing people on the internet assuming the UK is more racist than other places.
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
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Here is my idea for Sokolov's Agenda: "Global Reach: Build up the UNDC so it is able to meet its current commitments."
Unlike the others, it is less about getting something new for the UNDC and more about building up the UNDC so it can do all of the things it currently needs to do and can meet its existing responsibilities.
Unlike the others, it is less about getting something new for the UNDC and more about building up the UNDC so it can do all of the things it currently needs to do and can meet its existing responsibilities.
Eh, probably should have made it clearer it was a joke suggestion, I'm bad at communicating tone over text and don't habitually do that /s thing the way some people do.
- Location
- Queensland, Australia
[X] Convince Japan to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
-[X] Someone jokingly suggested Japan due to anime and mythology. The next day, it was taken considerably more seriously.
Someone had to make the joke. And I actually am mostly serious about this. Sure, Japan does have xenophobia issues, but their mythology and also anime culture means the people might be more accepting of the kemonomimi. I also think that the glimpse of their cultural practices might fight in well with Japan to a degree that other areas of the 'Western' world might not.
-[X] Someone jokingly suggested Japan due to anime and mythology. The next day, it was taken considerably more seriously.
Someone had to make the joke. And I actually am mostly serious about this. Sure, Japan does have xenophobia issues, but their mythology and also anime culture means the people might be more accepting of the kemonomimi. I also think that the glimpse of their cultural practices might fight in well with Japan to a degree that other areas of the 'Western' world might not.
Thank goodness for that.
- Location
- Canada
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Oh no.
The Tree wants access to the Memes.
In terms of the actual options, I'm for Special Dispensation somewhere, and giving the Trees access, while also warning them that the nature of the Internet tends to make the worst/most vocal of humanity stand out more than they do in the real world, both in the reach of their voice and the apparent influence they can exert.
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For anyone wanting to suggest an Agenda. Ones with a little more excitement and wow-effect have better chances than boring ones.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
I'm not sure which is better. They are already in the UK, but Germany might treat them better. I also consider this the best compromise between securing the continuation of their culture without spending too much of our CS. I would rather go down to 33 CS than 13 CS.
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
If they want to learn, they can learn, but I don't want them interacting with the public and doing something or saying something that causes trouble for us.
Global Might: Develop the capabilities of UNDC so it is able to fully support operations in every corner of the globe.
A bit on the dramatic side, but we apparently want that wow-effect. Basically about building up the UNDC so it is able to meet its current obligations and support operations to handle any new crises that might pop up in every region rather than developing a new shiny project.
It seems that we need to got for a shiny project to get the job and then go back to the basics on our second term.
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
I'm not sure which is better. They are already in the UK, but Germany might treat them better. I also consider this the best compromise between securing the continuation of their culture without spending too much of our CS. I would rather go down to 33 CS than 13 CS.
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
If they want to learn, they can learn, but I don't want them interacting with the public and doing something or saying something that causes trouble for us.
A bit on the dramatic side, but we apparently want that wow-effect. Basically about building up the UNDC so it is able to meet its current obligations and support operations to handle any new crises that might pop up in every region rather than developing a new shiny project.
It seems that we need to got for a shiny project to get the job and then go back to the basics on our second term.
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[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
[X] end of a chapter...
The situation in the middle east has dragged on for long enough. Our troops need an injection of equipment and Firepower if they want to win this war quickly.
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
[X] end of a chapter...
The situation in the middle east has dragged on for long enough. Our troops need an injection of equipment and Firepower if they want to win this war quickly.
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Convince the United Kingdom to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
I'm not sure which is better. They are already in the UK, but Germany might treat them better. I also consider this the best compromise between securing the continuation of their culture without spending too much of our CS. I would rather go down to 33 CS than 13 CS.
Edit: Dropping Germany due to some discussion on Discord.
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
If they want to learn, they can learn, but I don't want them interacting with the public and doing something or saying something that causes trouble for us.
[X] A Weapon To Surpass All Others: Develop and deploy a functioning combat mech.
Mechs should be awesome enough to impress the Council and in this setting, a Mech should be useful, especially if we can scale it up or down.
[X] Kicking Arse: Finish hardware developments and associated support infrastructure to kick the GLA out of the Middle East, the forest spirits out of South America and the vampires out of our bases.
[X] Powered and Armoured: Develop and deploy a workable combat exoskeleton
Edit: Updating my vote to approval vote other Agenda ideas I wouldn't mind doing.
I'm not sure which is better. They are already in the UK, but Germany might treat them better. I also consider this the best compromise between securing the continuation of their culture without spending too much of our CS. I would rather go down to 33 CS than 13 CS.
Edit: Dropping Germany due to some discussion on Discord.
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
If they want to learn, they can learn, but I don't want them interacting with the public and doing something or saying something that causes trouble for us.
[X] A Weapon To Surpass All Others: Develop and deploy a functioning combat mech.
Mechs should be awesome enough to impress the Council and in this setting, a Mech should be useful, especially if we can scale it up or down.
[X] Kicking Arse: Finish hardware developments and associated support infrastructure to kick the GLA out of the Middle East, the forest spirits out of South America and the vampires out of our bases.
[X] Powered and Armoured: Develop and deploy a workable combat exoskeleton
Edit: Updating my vote to approval vote other Agenda ideas I wouldn't mind doing.
That is Merin's Agenda. We are voting on what Sokolov's should be.
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Alright I've changed my Post.
Dezron
In the Omnissiah we trust !
- Location
- Poland
[X] Convince Germany to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Convince Ireland to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
[X] A Weapon To Surpass All Others: Develop and deploy a functioning combat mech.
[X] Convince Ireland to take special considerations (-20CS)(Results ???)
[X] Make a counteroffer (Give them the ability to view the internet so they can learn, but while they may watch videos, they cannot comment on them and while they may read articles and threads, they may not reply to them.)
[X] A Weapon To Surpass All Others: Develop and deploy a functioning combat mech.
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