- Location
- USA
Hopefully that tib tech that lets us delay the mutation can be implemented Q4 of this year than so we can try for a longer delay on the next mutation roll.... also means we want to stack as much mit as we can the rest of this year.
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
[X] Seo Thoki
With the new mutation popping up we NEED a leader who is willing to go all out in studies on Tib so we can more quickly negate that mutation and increase abatement and resources from Tib mining.
With the new mutation popping up we NEED a leader who is willing to go all out in studies on Tib so we can more quickly negate that mutation and increase abatement and resources from Tib mining.
- Location
- USA
[X] Seo Thoki
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- he
[X] Seo Thoki
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- He/Him
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Seo Thoki
[X] Seo Thoki
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
I'm guessing there's at least one more phase of ablative plating left to do.
Looking at the text it looks like the next project to improve the survivability of our vehicles is to improve their anti-missile/rocket ability. I don't think the remote weapon system helps with that since it seems to be a purely anti-personal weapon, but the new rapid fire laser system from the Steel Talons looks extremely promising. Combine that with railgun munitions and possibly the universal rocket launch system and I think we could secure GDI armor dominance for most of the next decade.
Looking at the text it looks like the next project to improve the survivability of our vehicles is to improve their anti-missile/rocket ability. I don't think the remote weapon system helps with that since it seems to be a purely anti-personal weapon, but the new rapid fire laser system from the Steel Talons looks extremely promising. Combine that with railgun munitions and possibly the universal rocket launch system and I think we could secure GDI armor dominance for most of the next decade.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Tell me what assumptions you want to make based on the game mechanics and I can tell you.
I could assume that the dice rolls are consistently average in the future (which would mean a lot less tiberium spread than we've seen so far, because they've rolled consistently high). I could assume an average level of tiberium mutation eating into our mitigation. I could assume either that we will be unable to mitigate tiberium any further than we already have (unrealistic) or that we add new mitigation at a fixed rate of your preference (possible).
Or I could make other, different assumptions. What do you prefer?
To be fair to Mikoyan, I'm pretty sure that she'd side with a strong majority of Parliament over a loud but 'significant' minority. If Parliament consists of, let's say, 67% basically OK people and 33% fascists, she's not going to be doing what the fascists want at the expense of what everyone else wants.
It's also worth noting that we've spent the entire Granger ministry, which isn't even that close to over, shaping GDI's society in ways that have greatly strengthened the parties we'd normally want in charge. Of all the parties out there, the only ones we'd have to worry about having power now are Initiative First or the Free Market Party, and the FMP issue is mainly that a lot of us voters would hate that.
But what would have to happen for either Initiative First or the FMP to become powerful enough that they aren't a marginalized force in the government? Either some very strange coalition-building (in which case unless the existing Developmentalist/Socialist-based coalition is stupid, that won't happen), or major shifts in GDI's society at large that are in precisely the OPPOSITE direction from what we've been seeing so far. Neither outcome seems very likely in my opinion.
So I think to some extent we're overreacting to a largely speculative problem with Mikoyan, or objecting on general principles to the idea that she won't be as likely to push back and give us direct power to shape GDI society, as opposed to having us "attempt to fulfill the plan" whose shape is defined by the legislature.
The only problem with the 'miners' part is that if GDI is visibly gaining strength and using the area around Mecca as a resource area, that gives outside Nod factions (or Kane personally) more incentive to press for Nod to violate the truce.
One of the big conventions surrounding flags of truce and neutral territories during wartime is that you have to take considerable precautions that neither side just gets to use these special symbols or neutral ground in ways that profit them too much. It makes the other side too likely to violate the treaty.
Maybe not so tiny as all that, actually...
In fairness, we have taken extensive pains, and most of us are planning to take MORE extensive pains soon, to make sure that any budget giveaways we come up with are NOT mostly going to big companies, or at least not to companies that aren't worker-owned and substantially regulated.
I'm pretty sure GDI has effectively broken the back of any plausible megacorporate capitalist economy; it would attempt to revive itself only to realize that it's lying in crippled, depowered pieces on the ground.
Taken at face value, this means you're saying that if we do this, we win the game.
So let me ask you.
How does doing this, specifically, in and of itself, prevent tiberium in the Red Zones from expanding to the point where naturally formed liquid tiberium pockets and lava come into contact within the Earth's crust, triggering natural multi-gigaton liquid tiberium explosions and devastating the Earth?
Because that's our endgame threat from tiberium.
Evacuating into orbit doesn't prevent this, it just lets us largely evade the consequences as long as the Scrin don't show up in force and/or don't feel like exterminating us in space when they do.
Building the Tiberium Control Network from Command and Conquer 4 would prevent this, but requires that we secure the Tacitus and research from it, or that Kane decides to cooperate with us, or that we get spectacularly lucky on Scrin tech research.
What's your endgame strategy here, to be clear?
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Don't like the extreme ideological flexibility of Sarang or the pure politics of Kai. I'm fine with more grants now that they're a lot more market socialist in nature and experimenting on tiberium while... dangerous will probably help us keep it back better.
[X] Seo Thoki
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Seo Thoki
[X] Julian Taylor
- Location
- Northish
It might be worth it to put funding into a system for layered ERA, basically having thinner panels fused into bricks that are not useless after one interception.
- Location
- The Underdark
Ablat is firmly in the induced demand category. There is more that the military will want Ablat for than you can ever plausibly produce.
Edit: Also, this is another turn with a bumper crop of new projects.
Colombo, Mecca, fusion, a bunch of the remaining NOD and Scrin projects.
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- He/It/Argh!
Challenge accepted.
trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
So it's like artillery shell plants or myomer in that there's seemingly never enough and enlarging the supply will just increase the demand.
- Location
- Northish
Careful or the military is getting us roped into plating over the exterior of the arcologies with meter thick ablat plates to resist Nod laser artillery.Challenge accepted.