Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
I think we are currently trying to avert or delay WW5. I don't think the existence of Kane changed WW1 by much, and WW2 was the Soviet Union taking over Europe. The First Tiberium War didn't involve large formations as Nation-States still existed, and GDI was led by a Brigadier, so I don't think it counts as a world war. The Second and Third Tiberium Wars definitely count as world wars.
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Cherry picked examples of IRL shitty Latin American populism aside (Brazil isn't socialist at all, wut), we've ran the numbers on grants; they're more cost effective with the caveat that significant dice must be spent meaning we'd have more money tied up getting less results, to the point we may not be able to fully activate our dice. Food, due to its relatively static and seasonal nature is one of the easier commodities to centrally plan, provided the USSR's modus operandi isn't used. Per QM, subsidizing private housing goes towards highly inefficient-and more critically unhardened against Tiberium-suburbs. Taxation, as you said, not only takes several quarters to take effect (though it can be sped up by encouraging formation of powerful megacorporations), the idea that the tax revenue only goes to us is ridiculous given that we don't get 100% of the budget.
There's a niche the collective sector can play with custom, unique and rapidly changing goods, but
Tiberium, high technology and roving INOPS investigations kinda tossed your sort of thinking out of the window.
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- Pennslyvania
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- She/They
CyberSyn is god now.
Ok so now you're assuming I made this account for the sole reason of countering bad faith actors who are arguing for the sole reason of arguing? Yes I have newly made an account, yes I rarely post mostly because I have commitments outside of this forum and I mostly read the quest from my phone which I am not going to use to post. This seems extremely hostile for what seems to be good points that I brought up.
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- Pennslyvania
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- She/They
[X] Seo Thoki
Team Labcoat FTW!
Team Labcoat FTW!
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- Hyperborea
Like I said before, voting Yellow Zone Candidates for Yellow Zone priorities.
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Kai Jun (君凯)
My vote is definitely going to these two, because they both prioritize what's been the most important thing we've done in this quest: putting the "Global" back into the GDI.
Space, economy, abatement, nothing else we've done has mattered as much as establishing a GDI presence in the Yellow Zones.
There is no humanitarian mission greater than reaching out to the hundreds of millions desperately trying to survive, to free them from having to rely on warlords because it's the only choice other than death.
There is no strategic victory over Nod greater than not just cutting into their recruitment numbers but outright removing them.
You want Abatement? Sure you do, everyone does. Except Nod. That's why they keep trying to smash it. You know what I want? For Nod to take a look at our Abatement efforts and go "I sure would like to smash that, but I can't because there's a hundred kilometers of fortress towns in the way."
I would not hesitate to go as far as saying that expanding into, developing, and protecting the Yellow Zones is a quest victory condition in of itself.
Hear me out: fighting Nod has been tried, over and over. Didn't work, because they rose from the ashes by taking advantage of the desperate multitudes that GDI abandoned.
What if those desperate multitudes started working for us instead? What if Nod had to start caring about their troops because every one of them lost was one that simply could not be replaced? What if when Kane try to strongarm GDI to build the Tiberium Control Network there are more people inside GDI than outside it?
Vote Julian.
Vote Kai.
Vote Yellow Zone.
Developing Space is good and I am curious about what mad science can do with tiberium when it's used for good, but in the end what I really want GDI to care about is working to solve the greatest humanitarian crisis in the history of mankind.
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Kai Jun (君凯)
My vote is definitely going to these two, because they both prioritize what's been the most important thing we've done in this quest: putting the "Global" back into the GDI.
Space, economy, abatement, nothing else we've done has mattered as much as establishing a GDI presence in the Yellow Zones.
There is no humanitarian mission greater than reaching out to the hundreds of millions desperately trying to survive, to free them from having to rely on warlords because it's the only choice other than death.
There is no strategic victory over Nod greater than not just cutting into their recruitment numbers but outright removing them.
You want Abatement? Sure you do, everyone does. Except Nod. That's why they keep trying to smash it. You know what I want? For Nod to take a look at our Abatement efforts and go "I sure would like to smash that, but I can't because there's a hundred kilometers of fortress towns in the way."
I would not hesitate to go as far as saying that expanding into, developing, and protecting the Yellow Zones is a quest victory condition in of itself.
Hear me out: fighting Nod has been tried, over and over. Didn't work, because they rose from the ashes by taking advantage of the desperate multitudes that GDI abandoned.
What if those desperate multitudes started working for us instead? What if Nod had to start caring about their troops because every one of them lost was one that simply could not be replaced? What if when Kane try to strongarm GDI to build the Tiberium Control Network there are more people inside GDI than outside it?
Vote Julian.
Vote Kai.
Vote Yellow Zone.
Developing Space is good and I am curious about what mad science can do with tiberium when it's used for good, but in the end what I really want GDI to care about is working to solve the greatest humanitarian crisis in the history of mankind.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Seo Thoki
[X] Seo Thoki
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- He/his/him
[X] Seo Thoki
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Julian Taylor
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
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- Neverland
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Sarang Mikoyan
[X] Sarang Mikoyan
[X] Sarang Mikoyan
I want space and I feel his political flexibility downside can be easily managed by continuing our trend of political spending before elections to prop up the people we like. The only two parties people really do not ant to support are small enough outcast parties I cannot see Mikoyan working with them with any sort of frequency even with his flexibility.
I want space and I feel his political flexibility downside can be easily managed by continuing our trend of political spending before elections to prop up the people we like. The only two parties people really do not ant to support are small enough outcast parties I cannot see Mikoyan working with them with any sort of frequency even with his flexibility.
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- ?????????
[X] Julian Taylor
[X] Sarang Mikoyan
[X] Sarang Mikoyan
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- Pennslyvania
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- She/They
You literally copy-pasted the other post. Really?
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- USA
[X] Seo Thoki
In my view the best choice because against NOD we have had wins and losses, against Tiberium we have had losses (please see how the RZ has expanded every turn bar 1). Seo provides our best bet at combating tiberium now that it has started to mutate and buy us enough time to try and get the TCN in some manner or hit another win condition, otherwise if the RZ expansion continues a lot of the investments we have done will be overrun in time.
In my view the best choice because against NOD we have had wins and losses, against Tiberium we have had losses (please see how the RZ has expanded every turn bar 1). Seo provides our best bet at combating tiberium now that it has started to mutate and buy us enough time to try and get the TCN in some manner or hit another win condition, otherwise if the RZ expansion continues a lot of the investments we have done will be overrun in time.
I have 1 dice on 5a marv since that has a high chance of finishing with that, I am also putting 2 dice on 7N Marv because that lets us put 1 or 2 the following turn to finish, get 3 rz mit, protect Chicago Planned city and the northern routes to our glacier mining operations in NA, gain 25 income. My point is that there have been people arguing for a delay on 7N Marvs and I am pointing out that we are being told that the 7N Marv will help secure our operations in the area including Glacier which provides a lot of income. All this on top of providing income and mit.
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- canada
The yellow zone are still a part of the Earth, and trying to save it by prioritizing defeating Nod is a fool's fallacy. No matter how much military action there is against Nod, the Tiberium itself will outgrow the current methods of control anyways if nothing is done to further the development of better ways of combat Tiberium instead.
It's why the Real answer to saving humanity starts with saving the planet from Tiberium itself, which would cut off resources to fund Nod if they no longer have enough areas to even mine the Tiberium from by reclaiming enough of the world.
Any military action can be done with any candidate, but ONLY Seo can give us the additional options to deal with Tiberium with more radical science. We need the science more. We need Seo more.
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[X] Seo Thoki
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- The Underdark
It was always a reference. I first used the Sarang Mikoyan name soon after Anastas Mikoyan became general secretary.
As for the broader socialism thing, It is viable. You will probably never see the option for full communism, but some vein of socialism is very sustainable.
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- being near locations is my passion.
No. I belive you are a bad faith actor. And yes, that does make sincere reciprocal dialogue impossible. If I am in error, then this is the result of an unfortunate pattern that you have tragically, innocently, followed.
Good fortune to you.
[X] Seo Thoki