Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Adhoc vote count started by GlassMask on Sep 21, 2020 at 6:54 PM, finished with 119 posts and 75 votes.
 
Turn 10: Arc 5-3
As you wish," Bao Qian, said, stroking his chin thoughtfully. "I will put my time toward mingling with the guests who require less individual attention then."

"Yes, please," Ling Qi replied, turning away from the windowsill. She hoped that this went well.
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The area set for guests below the stage was an open floor with a high ceiling, surrounded by balconies where more people could stand or sit as they liked. Staff carrying trays with refreshments moved quietly too and fro, providing for the guests. Given the size of the hall, the number of people attending did seem kind of small to Ling Qi, there were at her count less than fifty people, not including staff and obvious bodyguards or personal servants.

She saw Bai Meizhen, seated in one of the front rows with her hands held patiently in her lap. A handful of brave if nervous looking young men and women seemed to be trying to engage her in conversation. Bao Qingling stood on one of the balconies above, leaning on the railing, putting off an unapproachable air.

They might have arrived together, but it looked like they were avoiding being too obvious away from the Sect. Ling Qi felt a pang of annoyance on Meizhen's behalf, but that was just how things were. Continuing to scan the crowd, Ling Qi heard Wang Chao's braying laugh. At least he was having fun boasting about his military assignments to a gaggle of lesser nobles.

Her lips quirked up when she heard him throwing in a comment praising her as well. Wang Chao was really unsubtle, but he was honest in his intentions at least. However, Ling Qi soon found what she was searching for. Seated in the rearmost of the seating, set against the back wall was an older woman whose bearing and aura stood out much from the young baronial scions milling about.

She wore a many layered gown of pale green and blue silk, which left not an inch of skin below her chin uncovered. Wide, billowing sleeves embroidered with falling leaves that danced animatedly across the fabric concealed her hands, and whorls of stylized water currents shifted and flowed across the lower hems. Meng Diu's face looked much the same as it had in her visit to the court of Xiangmen. She wore heavy stylized makeup that left her face nearly ghost white, with a spot of crimson color on her lips and darker colors around her eyes. Her honey-brown hair was done up in an elaborate bun and looping braids that framed her face.

Every time one of the other guests looked her way, their attention seemed to slide off of her like water from a duck's feathers. She tilted her head, meeting Ling Qi's eyes.

"See what I mean," Sixiang remarked.

Ling Qi hummed in agreement, and murmuring a short farewell to Bao Qian as they split up, began to work her way over toward the rear of the room. She smiled and greeted guests as she went, trying to remain welcoming while still advancing. Thankfully, she had gotten better at this, because no one seemed offended when she left them behind.

She had her suspicions about one particularly chatty boy, whose eyes had seemed to go a little glassy before he excused himself. As she approached the rear of the room however, the interruptions lessened, until at last no one seemed to notice her anymore.

"Lady Meng," Ling Qi said, stopping a respectful distance away and offering a formal bow, hands clasped in front of her chest. "I am incredibly honored that one such as you would choose to attend this small performance."

"It is an unusual event," Meng Diu replied, studying her. It was hard for Ling Qi to make out her eyes or expression, to her consternation there seemed to be an odd, blurry filter over her eyes. "Not many cultivators would see their honored companions perform for human amusement, even in these days."

Ah, there was the first thrust. "I am afraid that Hanyi was insistent," Ling Qi said, not raising her head. "Due to her lineage she is more human of mind than most. She wished to earn an allowance without straining this humble baroness' limited funds."

"Is that so?" asked Meng Diu. Up close, Ling Qi noticed, there was a faint melody in the air, a faint thing that spoke of autumn evenings and the song of crickets in the woodlands. "Unusual indeed. Do you intend to allow your spirit their own income? Many would look down upon you for this."

"While I will check her expenses, which is my duty as her elder sister under my former teacher, Hanyi's earnings will be her own," Ling Qi replied evenly. She would certainly play nice, and work to be more attentive, but on matters of family, she had no intention of bending.

Meng Diu hummed noncommittally. "Sit, young lady. I have no intention of straining my neck looking up at you."

Ling Qi blinked, the older woman's presence was large, a warm buzzing hum that seemed to hang oppressively over them. She only now realized that Meng Diu was not much taller than Li Suyin. "Of course, thank you Lady Meng," she replied, not missing a beat. Taking her seat beside Meng Diu, Ling Qi considered her next words carefully. "If I may, Lady Meng, what are your thoughts on recent events?"

"Concern," Meng Diu replied brusquely. Ling Qi couldn't tell if Lady Meng was turning her head to look at her or not. "Many matters are moving quickly. When matters move quickly, many lives are lost, one way or the other."

Ling Qi took a moment to digest that, drumming her fingers nervously on the arm rests. "Unfortunately, I believe the pacing may be out of our hands," she said carefully.

"The wheel turns ever on," Lady Meng said, and Ling Qi thought that was an agreement. Sixiang agreed with her assessment, which gave her some comfort. "Yet, all the same, I find some agreement with my brother. Certain elements are accelerating that turning."

This time, Ling Qi was able to follow her gaze across the room, to where Meizhen sat, chatting with a girl who seemed to have gotten over her aura.

This time, Ling Qi was quiet for some time, composing a reply in her head with the help of Sixiang. "Bai Meizhen has in my short time, ever been an ally. While I cannot speak for the past, I believe that the Bai, are in their own way seeking to move forward. While there will be troubles I am sure. I believe alliance is in the interest of Emerald Seas."

"I am certain you do," Meng Diu replied softly, her gaze fixed upon Meizhen. "Yet, individuals aside, you know little of the Bai clan, I suspect."

"I lack experience," Ling Qi replied humbly. If nothing else, perhaps she could understand more the source of conflict. "Would Lady Meng like to share an insight?"

"A small anecdote perhaps," Meng Diu mused. "During the rampage of Ogodei, my Grandfather reached out to the Bai in desperation, seeking to evacuate mortals and common cultivators from the flooding and raids. Our reply was silence."

Ling Qi was silent as she waited for Meng Diu to continue.

"Matters grew worse, the flooding from the storms drove the spirits of the fens mad," she said contemplatively. "My Uncle was sent north to beg for aid. There was none. The war worsened further, our armies were confined to the cities, lest the barbarians slip behind out lines to sack them. People fled north. At the borders of the thousand lakes, they were greeted with spearpoints and bolts. The Bai slew any who dared pass the boundaries, no matter how desperate their plight. After the rampage, they demanded reparations for the trespass."

Ling Qi nodded faintly. "That is cruel," she said carefully.

"I am not unobjective," Meng Diu said thoughtfully. "It was at least partly a matter of politics. The Hui were vehement about their sovereignty, and would have used their connections to the Court to cause troubles if the Bai had sent us aid. Yet the Bai are mighty, are they not? Certainly in those days before the rise of Sun Shao. Arrogance and apathy. Indeed, when the situation was reversed, and the folk of the Lakes flooded south from undefended settlements, the Bai did threaten us for the return of their people, and the Hui ordered the border closed. Ten thousand years and more, and I am to believe that they have changed now?" she sneered.

"Oh boy, not exactly an easy sell, huh?" Sixiang winced.

Ling Qi took another long moment to organize her thoughts. "I can't speak for past events, but I think the damage wrought on the Bai clan recently is without precedent. Their eldest and most powerful were slain in one terrible blow, and their power gutted. If there were to be any catalyst for change, would it not be that?"

Ling Qi wasn't entirely ignorant. She wasn't privy to the highest level of politics, but even she had picked up that the recent opening of the Thousand Lakes was, if not unprecedented at least highly unusual.

"A fair point," Meng Diu allowed, surprising her. "And there is prosperity to be found in trade, even if the Lakes returns to form at a later date. Yet, I am not unsympathetic to my kin, who remain wary of any opening. It is not only the Bai whom we fear."

"Thank you for your explanation, Lady Meng," Ling Qi said quietly. She wasn't sure what to do with it yet, but more knowledge was better than none. "I hope you will not take offense if I say that I hope my Lady and her Mother prove your fears incorrect."

Meng Diu let out a dry laugh. "Indeed, young lady, there is a reason we are speaking. You are an interesting one. You are small yet, but some few are beginning to notice you."

"I am flattered," Ling Qi replied warily. Worried, the actual word was worried.

"Hmph," It was clear what Meng Diu thought of her substitution. "I have an offer to make you."

"I would be honored to hear it," Ling Qi replied.

"I wish to have further investment in the young heiress," Meng Diu said bluntly. "I want to send one of my grandsons along on this expedition the Duchess has mandated. She has said that it is a matter of the heiress' choice. So I ask you to convince her. Given the chance, I believe that he will prove himself capable in the circle of retainers she is building."

Ling Qi's eyes widened. That was… a serious matter.

[] Accept the offer, you can convince Renxiang and sponsorship from even a faction of a count house is a valuable thing.
[] Decline, you can't afford to involve internal politics in something as delicate as diplomacy with an unknown faction.
 
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Uuuuuuuugh this vote is already killing me. It'd be nice to know more about this guy than the fact he's being vouched for in some political maneuver LQ can't fully parse the big picture of beyond the basics.

Edit: ah well we did sign up for this. I'll wait to see what other people think.
 
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Oh wow, we don't even get to meet the guy first. That is a tough one.

You are 100% right, but I like it. This choice feels big, it feels like it could have far-reaching consequences that butterfly across the land, changing and morphing the future. We've had an impact before, but often it has felt we've stumbled headfirst into the situations that lead to serious change. Here it feels like our decision to be the Cai's retainer is giving us a direct opportunity to affect real change in a relationship that matters, good or bad change, well, that remains to be seen.

[] Accept the offer, you can convince Renxiang and sponsorship from even a faction of a count house is a valuable thing.

Time to put our big girl pants on.
 
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[] Accept the offer, you can convince Renxiang and sponsorship from even a faction of a count house is a valuable thing.
I support this.
 
I'd like to think that Meng Diu wouldn't suggest sending a grandson along on an important diplomatic mission if said grandson was a diplomatic doofus. If she's being honest, she's trying to set her grandson up as a potential retainer for CRX, so he'll probably be quite competent here.

And LQ is trying to appeal to the traditionalists, like the Meng. Winning the favour of their court representative would be a good step towards that. It'd also give LQ a much better platform to sell the Bai alliance to the Meng. Seeing as how the Meng and the Bai share a huge border, this could seriously improve the potential for the alliance to last long term. Border tensions kill alliances after all.
 
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dude yes, i know we dont know the guy but if this lady is vouching for him on such an important mission, and also cai NEEDS noble retainers as well. she cant just have commoners like lq and GG, and this is a perfect inroad to the ever isolationist MENG clan.
 
Another thing that might be at the background of this vote is the Meng sounding out how much influence Ling Qi has on Cai. Are we an actual avenue for dialogue and change, does Cai respect our advice? Or are we an impressively talented cultivator only along for the ride.

It's obviously not a primary goal, but I could see finding the answer to this being a secondary one or a tertiary one.
 
If there is one aspect I despise about this, it's the idea that Qi is taking a bribe to arrange for a preferential position to be given to a relative. I want to know if Ren herself would both benefit and prefer this. If it's "yes, it's a good thing that you are making inroads with the Meng and attracting a potential retainer from them, this will be useful in the future", then I am all for it, with the assumption that it will made certain that he won't fuck up the mission. Otherwise, Qi's loyalty won't waver.
 
"Hmph," It was clear what Meng Diu thought of her substitution. "I have an offer to make you."

"I would be honored to hear it," Ling Qi replied.

"I wish to have further investment in the young heiress," Meng Diu said bluntly. "I want to send one of my grandsons along on this expedition the Duchess has mandated. She has said that it is a matter of the heiress' choice. So I ask you to convince her. Given the chance, I believe that he will prove himself capable in the circle of retainers she is building."

Ling Qi's eyes widened. That was… a serious matter.
Serious indeed! I was correct in the assumptino that the Meng would like Lady Ling as an advocate for their problems and her support in certain courtly matters. It is a rare day that I am this right and as always, I loath it when I am right. It´s politics, so that is par for the course.

Hmm....this is difficult. Should LQ support Lady Meng, then clan Meng and Clan Ling will be grouped together on topics, which the Cai need to show impartiality, due to them being sovereign. Lady Meng herself, as shown in this update, has her curiosity peaked by Ling Qi and agrees that these recent death among the Bai could be the catalyst for great change in the Bai. Does Lady Meng envision the Ling as an intermediary between the Bai and Meng in some way? I do not know, but what I suspect is, that Lady Meng is willing to see where Ling Qi will lead her live. This seems to me like an attempt by Lady Meng to show support to a clan clearly aligning in terms of Culture and willing to take the Chance for a different future.
It could be that the Meng wish to form a new political block? I do not know this, but I know that the clan hopes to influence the court with support of this personal retainer to the heir CRX through LQ. That seems to be the interpretation I get out of this update.

Should we help in convincing the CRX of the viability of the Meng then I suspect Lady Meng would be more happy to have closer cooperation in later discussions.
Also, Lady Meng would not want to send someone incompetent and I think it is worth a try.
[X] Accept the offer, you can convince Renxiang and sponsorship from even a faction of a count house is a valuable thing.
 
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Meng Clan aren't stupid so the guy is probably very competent. Plus she came personally to deliver the offer. So I'm going to go with this. Renxing will probably take the chance to widen her connections.
[X] Accept the offer, you can convince Renxiang and sponsorship from even a faction of a count house is a valuable thing.
 
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I feel like she means what she's saying, she wouldn't send someone who'd fuck things up for us, even if unintentionally.
[] Accept the offer, you can convince Renxiang and sponsorship from even a faction of a count house is a valuable thing.
 
, it's the idea that Qi is taking a bribe to arrange for a preferential position to be given to a relative.
That's how politics work on this level. Looking down on the ideal of passing along favors and stuff simply means we dont advance in political power and thus dont achieve anything.

Besides, this is hardly bribing us to turn our face away as a cultivator fucks over a town of mortal or somesuch nonsense.

A functional system of politics and favors establishes boundaries on what is acceptable in terms of norms. And what is being asked is more than acceptable, even mutually beneficial.
 
Thankfully, she had gotten better at this, because no one seemed offended when she left them behind.

Progress!

"Sit, young lady. I have no intention of straining my neck looking up at you."

And just as she was starting to not think about her height as much, lady Meng knows how to hurt :V


On the choice itself. Meng investing in CRX would be good, and it has benefits for us. Meng Diu says she believes her grandson will prove himself, so if we go with it we shouldn't be trying to help him succeed, the ball would be in his court to prove himself. We are trying to sell the idea to CRX. CRX could gain another retainer this way (and we would get our Meng Husbando candidate :V).


But we know nothing about him, and we are going on a diplomatic mission shortly, which means we might not have time to get to know them. I don't believe this Meng would ruin things, though, I don't believe he would even be recommended if he was not at least decent.
 
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