Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Hmm? Wasn't that Bardbarian?

He's got lightning theming going on, and that he's a musician period suggests he's got a more spiritual bent than usual for them.

I did think that the shamans lightning attack was a little weak given their presumed numbers, so you might be right! In that case they haven't stopped their ritual and/or are ramping up.
 
Think forting up is the right choice here. We set up a hard point the Cloud tribe cant ignore and, going by the vote option, keep people from interfering with the Cai duel. Leaving her fresh to take care of him (my money will always be on the ducal).

LQ jumping it would only add a G3.5. To the duel on CRX side... and alot of Cloud and shishigui on the enemies side. Like remember that LQ only got g3 potency arts up. Against a G7... that is not going to work. We would just be a burden in that duel.

We also practiced hard point defence the entire last month with Wang.
 
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[] Fortress up with Zhengui around the starstone, drive the barbarians away from it and try to eliminate any who would interfere with Renxiang's duel.

Because as it appears the entire assault force is something the Argent Sect is willing to right off simply to bait out whomever is on the other end of the trap... it seems prudent to make a mobile hard-point to increase the odds of everyone LQ cares about surviving the clash between them.
 
[] Fortress up with Zhengui around the starstone, drive the barbarians away from it and try to eliminate any who would interfere with Renxiang's duel.
[] Assist Cai Renxiang immediately, bringing your spirits with you. Ducal heiress or no, he has three stages on her. He seems to be the only one who can immediately pull the starstone out of play anyway.


Mmmh. From what I am seeing of the two choices, it seems that the first choice has a much higher odds of everyone targeting Zhengui. This means a high chance of seeing Rebirth Inferno in action. That's... I usually don't like voting for 'cool scene', but I really want to see that.
 
Like. We are on a battlefield, we need to be making moves that remove as many enemy forces from play as possible as quickly as possible for the least expenditure of our own energy.

That Shishigui G7 is what is keeping Bardbarian's faction relevant in this battle and if we take him out, everyone else is going to have a hell of a time moving the Starstone.


Think forting up is the right choice here. We set up a hard point the Cloud tribe cant ignore and, going by the vote option, keep people from interfering with the Cai duel. Leaving her fresh to take care of him (my money will always be on the ducal).

LQ jumping it would only add a G3.5. To the duel on CRX side... and alot of Cloud and shishigui on the enemies side. Like remember that LQ only got g3 potency arts up. Against a G7... that is not going to work. We would just be a burden in that duel.

We also practiced hard point defence the entire last month with Wang.
And a G2 tank, G1, and G2/G1. Can't forget our spirits.
 
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[] Fortress up with Zhengui around the starstone, drive the barbarians away from it and try to eliminate any who would interfere with Renxiang's duel.

In this vote, we still help Rexiang, but more importantly, we start really building up our defenses which is what Linq Qi build is made for. Plus everyone wants the stone and I'm not sure our spirits will be able to defend it by themselves with such pressure if we're not there.
 
Functionally, we're kind of in a bad position. With the Bardbarian, his three buddies, and the five twelve star guys aimed at us the amount of force coming at us isn't going to change. The cloud tribe Shishigui helpers and the five twelve star guys are coming either way. The only real variable is how closely we work together with Renxiang in my mind. With her keeping the G7 mostly busy we can strike him and help distract him and get her direct help dealing with our own enemies.

That way leads to less energy spent on ours and hers part in my mind since its concentrating force, and we're also closer to Renxiang if we have to retreat with dreamstep. I'd rather coop and fight with a concentration of force while we're still in some form of good shape.
You are trading qi expenditure for our Hp. A bad trade in my opinion. Also even if LQ can wither the storm, Hanui can't. And I don't see why Cai would spent less energy if she has to fight more enemies?
 
Like. We are on a battlefield, we need to be making moves that remove as many enemy forces from play as possible as quickly as possible for the least expenditure of our own energy.

That Shishigui G7 is what is keeping Bardbarian's faction relevant in this battle and if we take him out, everyone else is going to have a hell of a time moving the Starstone.



And a G2 tank, G1, and G2/G1. Can't forget our spirits.

The issue at hand is that upper greens die very, very hard, and once we get invested in participating in fighting it, everyone else has the freedom to do whatever they want with the abandoned rock--that I will note is melting through the wall and as soon as it hits unbleached earth, it's subject to be recaptured by any decently capable Shishigui.

If he's busy tied up against Renren, he's just as neutralized. And we've got more assets on the way.
 
You are trading qi expenditure for our Hp. A bad trade in my opinion. Also even if LQ can wither the storm, Hanui can't. And I don't see why Cai would spent less energy if she has to fight more enemies?
The defense option is going to have us eating a lot of both qi and health expenditure in my mind since we're going to have to tie up 9-11 (Cloud tribes and two Dancers) different Green opponents, most of them equal to or just below Ling Qi. More if anything else goes wrong.

With the offense option we turn the fight from a one vs one and a four vs 9- 11 into a five vs 10-12 where there is actually concentration of damage and thus a distribution of energy expenditure across everyone involved. Basically, the idea of the more of us and our allies we have together the more we can spread the cost of putting down enemies. Plus we have various elegy and other Qi drains which can mitigate it.


The issue at hand is that upper greens die very, very hard, and once we get invested in participating in fighting it, everyone else has the freedom to do whatever they want with the abandoned rock--that I will note is melting through the wall and as soon as it hits unbleached earth, it's subject to be recaptured by any decently capable Shishigui.

If he's busy tied up against Renren, he's just as neutralized. And we've got more assets on the way.
I mean. I guess that's assuming that the offense option is worded misleadingly? Going by the information it gives us, G7 boyo is pretty much who they have to secure it.
 
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Did I miss something or are we not treating the rock as too important? Its only supposed to be a secondary objective. Whether we fort up or not, I don't think the shiny rock should be the primary consideration for our choice.
 
Ling Qi was not sure she liked the way the woman was staring at Hanyi.

I really hope this is a "Oh wow, it's a wild cute ice girl Jesus!" sort of look...

The woman remained on the ground, and around her there was cold, stray pebbles and stones, deflected arrows and more that flew toward her, lost all momentum and clattered to rest a dozen meters away. The only difference was that now the foreigner was looking at her.

...and not a "Oh wow, it's a walking pill for my next breakthrough attempt!" sort look.

(Worryingly, the more I think on it the more sense it would make for the Yuki-Onna worshippers to be literal cannibals. Please the yandere stare is enough.)
 
The defense option is going to have us eating a lot of both qi and health expenditure in my mind since we're going to have to tie up 9-11 (Cloud tribes and two Dancers) different Green opponents, most of them equal to or just below Ling Qi. More if anything else goes wrong.

With the offense option we turn the fight from a one vs one and a four vs 9- 11 into a five vs 10-12 where there is actually concentration of damage and thus a distribution of energy expenditure across everyone involved. Basically, the idea of the more of us and our allies we have together the more we can spread the cost of putting down enemies. Plus we have various elegy and other Qi drains which can mitigate it.
Every action spent attacking is action not spent on defences. Also even if it favorable to us it turns CRX own fight from 1vs1 into five vs 10-12.
 
Did I miss something or are we not treating the rock as too important? Its only supposed to be a secondary objective. Whether we fort up or not, I don't think the shiny rock should be the primary consideration for our choice.

It's not just a secondary objective for us, it's also arguably the primary objective of the Twelve Stars and Shishigui right now. It can play an important role in keeping off pressure from the other battlefields here, as both the Twelve Stars and the Shishigui will devote as many resources as they can to securing it.

[X] Fortress up with Zhengui around the starstone, drive the barbarians away from it and try to eliminate any who would interfere with Renxiang's duel.
 
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[X] Fortress up with Zhengui around the starstone, drive the barbarians away from it and try to eliminate any who would interfere with Renxiang's duel.
 
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I don't remember CRX's level in BINO's fight but I think he was G5? I remember talk we didn't manage to scratch him but CRX was able to beat him black and blue, so she can punch up fairly well without interference which we can give for the fortress option.

We'd also be having a fortified position ready and waiting for our backup soon to be arriving.
 
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I think that going with the fortress option is still supporting CRX, because it says
and try to eliminate any who would interfere with Renxiang's duel

which i think could be quite a hard task, because there arent all that many imperials in that fight yet. It means we have to make the barbs focus their attention on us and then we have to survive all that attention while also keeping an eye on CRX's duel to yoink away anyone trying to jump her. But with how effective her Light has been vs the Shishigui and given that she already punched up against one of them back in turn 7, I am actually confident that CRX can win the duel, if we succeed at keeping others away from her.
 
Did I miss something or are we not treating the rock as too important? Its only supposed to be a secondary objective. Whether we fort up or not, I don't think the shiny rock should be the primary consideration for our choice.

Not really. Given its importance to the Cloud Nomads, it's tactically very relevant - we know exactly how they will react to it: hence Ling Qi's choices are centered around

1. Attract Everyone's Fucking Attention
(because she is sitting on the rock everyone wants)

2. Kill The One Guy Who Can Move The Rock
(because if no one can take it off the board, it has to be defended, if it has to be defended, the barbarians can't just scatter to the winds, this becomes a straightforward slugfest and the Sect is much better at that then the barbarians are)
 
Every action spent attacking is action not spent on defences. Also even if it favorable to us it turns CRX own fight from 1vs1 into five vs 10-12.
I don't think her fight is particularly favorable for her either tbh. Boyo seems well set up to give her a hard time given he took her hardest attack and didn't seem that badly injured and is a long range blaster like her.

E: In this context bad for her means losing control of Liming to me.
 
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a handful of the yellow doods died to artillery and Ling qi took out 1 of the g1's with elegy, but otherwise yes. Well the guiys who got their everything broken by Guan Zhi aren't actually fighting fit yet.

Might be a good idea to also add an enemy status at the end of mid battle updates.

It doesn't have to be accurate (it is, after all, about perceived status, so it makes sense some or even most of them may have ??? status, or to have misleading status) and it doesn't have to be detailed (it could group teams of enemy together and just state x number are active and x number is incapacitated rather than being as detailed as the party member condition) but it would still help to reference Ling Qi's perception of the enemy in summary before taking an action.
 
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I don't think her fight is particularly favorable for her either tbh. Boyo seems well set up to give her a hard time given he took her hardest attack and didn't seem that badly injured and is a long range blaster like her.
Yeah, ultimately what we're doing here is buying time for the main body to arrive. We shouldn't be expected to win here.

Hell, we're probably not going to be in particularly good shape after the next update.
 
Did I miss something or are we not treating the rock as too important? Its only supposed to be a secondary objective. Whether we fort up or not, I don't think the shiny rock should be the primary consideration for our choice.

Secondary Objectives are still important. They're "We don't strictly need this to count the mission a success but getting it would considerably advance our interests".
 
Yeah, ultimately what we're doing here is buying time for the main body to arrive. We shouldn't be expected to win here.

Hell, we're probably not going to be in particularly good shape after the next update.
Hah yeah. I'm pretty sure this fight is not going to end up with either of us looking good, as we basically watch the AS win on a tactical level and fuck up on a strategic level.
 
I want to try Defense, because it fits with what we were focusing Narratively for a while with the Wang, but also I want to see what exactly Sixiang could do if given the time to plan around a defense. Maybe they could join as one of the phantoms of the Revel? I wanna know what Sixiang was learning during the Wang study group.
 
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I don't mind either option. I think the Shishigui is the only one who can move the starstone, and fighting it with her would result in a cool duo battle scene. On the other hand, defending the stone from the unforeseen may be the most prudent and safe choice.
 
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