Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
-[X][Guan Zhi] The Twelve Stars confederation representatives
-[X][Cai Renxiang] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][Ling Qi] Target Shishigui


Leaving CRX to deal with a G7 alone sounds like a terrible idea. Let's not prioritise a secondary objective over the life and wellbeing of our friend.
 
Leaving CRX to deal with a G7 alone sounds like a terrible idea. Let's not prioritise a secondary objective over the life and wellbeing of our friend.
Once again, keep in mind, this is not voting for which one they're confronting.

YOU are voting which target are they gonna hit with an artillery strike. Ling Qi's the spotter. The only one in REAL DANGER here is Ling Qi, not CRX
 
An Instance of Glory: Eternal
An Instance of Glory; Eternal

Stumbling back to his home, Chen Jun could feel the stares of pity and contempt from the various cousins that populated the compound. Another day, devoting his whole to a singular art, and another rejection. No talent, they whispered, no spark of creativity, they gossiped. The failure of the Chen, they laughed. No matter the drive, no matter the devotion, nothing he touched came out properly. Poems sounded clunky and dull, paintings lifeless and limp, pottery fractured and broken, tea pungent and spoiled.

Even his cultivation was slow. Being fifteen years old, edging on sixteen even, and in the middle of the Yellow realm was acceptable, for a mortal. But he was a scion of the Chen, a noble family that could trace a lineage back to the time of the Dragon Gods. A proud and distinguished family did not deserve to be disgraced with such a failure of a descendant. Even his father could not seem to help him, despite the late-night sessions of individual instruction. And he was a figure firmly established in the Cyan Realm! If an immortal of the Cyan realm, his own father no less, could not help him than it seemed the Spirits themselves had spited him!

The rage building quickly in his heart gutted and dimmed as he felt his father waiting for him at home. It was… going to be an awkward dinner. Pulling off his shoes, and sitting them in the appropriate cubby, he made his way to the dining room. Hiding from their difficulties had never been the Chen's way of doing things.

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There was little conversation during dinner, and Father seemed content to occupy himself with drinking tea while Mother attempted to spark some conversation. He appreciated the effort, but it was a futile exercise in sympathy. The attempts petered out eventually, and then Mother was called away to deal with this or that regarding clan administration, leaving just him and Father at the table. It was then that Father decided to speak.

"It seems that there have been some difficulties in your pottery class Chen Jun, would you like to talk about them?"

"I… I would rather not Father. Suffice to say that it does not appear that pottery is the way to express my artistic talent. I was… hoping for some… more instruction Father, in the art of painting landscapes."

"Jun… I have seen the effort you have placed into the artistic fields our clan is known for. I have seen you practice your calligraphy with blood when the inkpot run dry, I have seen you use tears to paint when more precious pigments were denied to you, and I have seen you use sweat to keep the clay on the spinning wheel. For all of your efforts, all of your struggles, all of your drive, I am proud to call you my son.

Something bloomed in his chest, and he felt his throat constrict. "Thank you, Father, I will endeavor not to disappoint you."

"I have faith that you will not Chen Jun. However, while I am proud to call you my son, I can not call you an artisan."

With that statement, the blooming emotion in Chen Jun's chest was strangled, crushed by the weight of disappointment and bubbling despair.

Struggling to restrain the sobs that threatened to overcome him, he asked the only question left in his mind, "What… what, what am I to do then?"

"I… would be a poor father if I could not give advice in times of distress. For the next month, you will be given access to some of the more basic combat arts of our clan, and after that month I will bring you to Storm's Peak. There I will leave you for a single month with supplies to last you that long. During that time, you will pursue a singular goal, to slice a lightning bolt. When you succeed, more advanced training and access to potent medicines and elixirs will be yours. Do you understand?"

"I… I understand, Father."

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The month following his change in circumstances was brutal. Every day would begin well before dawn and end well after dusk. Sleep came fitfully when there was time at all, and dreams of failure plagued him regularly. But the results, the results spoke volumes. Every draw with his piandao was getting faster, every sweep holding more power, every strike more confident. Given his stated task, he focused on practicing the combat arts that emphasized the speed of a drawing sword and perception arts that sped up his perception of the world around him. First bamboo fell to his blade, then leaping fish, and finally flying sparrows. His draw was faster than it ever had been, his stroke more sure, his arts polished to the degree he was able. And then it was time.

After the customary greetings with his father, Chen Jun was silent on the trip to Storm's Peak. Father didn't break the silence either, instead parting the storm with a wave of his hand and quelling the rambunctious spirits that swirled on the currents of wind within. Settling on the peak, where a strangely placid lake with a small island in the middle rested, Father gave s short curt nod to him and then disappeared in a flash of lightning. All that was left was the supplies he had been given, and the task ahead.

Strangely… there was a lack of fear, now that he was here. There was simply the task, and the drive to complete it. Here, upon the peak, time seemed to move slowly. Lightning flashed, seemingly crawling through the air like snakes, striking the lake with violent fury. But no strike seemed to ruffle the still waters, each flash and bulging cloud perfectly reflected as if by a serene mirror.

Chen Jun began his task, striking with swift sure movements. However, each strike sliced only the air and wind, any lightning in the path had long since disappeared leaving only a turbulent thunder. And yet he kept trying, attempting to predict that which couldn't be predicted. He kept trying, however, and without knowledge of day or night, for the sun did not rise in this place, nor did the moon set, only the storm remained constant, he kept practicing. Strike after strike missed the flashing lightning, and yet he remained calm. Fear and doubt would not help him here, only calm surety.

Then he felt it, a churning of the clouds, the gathering of energy. Lightning would come straight in front of him, within reach of the sword. He knew where it was going to be, and all that remained was the speed of his sword. Time seemed to slow even further, seconds stretching until all that remained was one moment after another. Light gathered and flash, the bolt screaming down to the earth, moment by moment. In the space between moments, however, Chen Jun's sword drew and cut, slicing the lightning in half.

He could feel the energy coursing through his body to the earth, each placid beat of his heart pumping blood and lightning. He could feel the blade heating and distorting under the strength of the blow. He could feel the storm beginning to quell and the presence of a Cyan approaching. But he could also see the reflection in the lake, of a young man in perfect posture and with a flashing sword cutting the lightning in twain. It was a single, glorious instance, the time between moments, and it was a reflection that he would remember eternally.


A/N: Another omake for the omake throne @yrsillar. I hope that those reading this enjoy it!
 
Dang, wish I saw this earlier. I would've preffered a both attacks on the Cyan then go for the steal. Shenanigans is close enough I suppose.

[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
 
Reread the part about starstoune
"We know you seek the fallen stars, son of the skies," The Shishigui growled. It clapped it's hands, and the air shimmered. The center of the caldera shook with a weighty thump as a lump of prismatic stone more than ten meters wide rose from the earth as if it were water. "My people are of the deep earth. We can deliver your stars."

Ling Qi stared at the lump of star stone despite the burning in her eyes as the communications disciple in her head babbled incoherently. The very air around the thing warped, and the stone beneath it began to flow and melt into iridescent ooze, as the bonds of qi began to distort and decay. She could feel the energies in the stone, potent beyond anything else in the caldera, yet sleeping.

The communications disciples voice cut off, replaced by Guan Zhi's.

"Secondary objective. Secure the starstone object," her voice was curt.
It decays qi and It's size comparable to Zhengui, there is no way LQ can move it. Also Shishigui summoned it just by clapping. Guess he could unsummon it too. Guess while he lives no one would be able to secure Starstone.
 
Reread the part about starstoune

It decays qi and It's size comparable to Zhengui, there is no way LQ can move it. Also Shishigui summoned it just by clapping. Guess he could unsummon it too. Guess while he lives no one would be able to secure Starstone.

Notably the vote doesn't say steal, but rather Secure.

I'd imagine that will look something like putting Zhengui and a buttload of Mist right next to it and then trying to isolate the clapper
 
[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
-[X][Guan Zhi] The Twelve Stars confederation representatives
-[X][Cai Renxiang] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][Ling Qi] Securing the Starstone
 
Once again, keep in mind, this is not voting for which one they're confronting.

YOU are voting which target are they gonna hit with an artillery strike. Ling Qi's the spotter. The only one in REAL DANGER here is Ling Qi, not CRX
They will respond to an Alpha strike and priorities the people attacking them. CRX isn't a long distance sniper who'll be far enough to reliably avoid a counter from someone a lot stronger than she is.
 
Eliminating one faction at the start should make the rest go much easier.

[X] Plan XCOM door breach
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
 
Hrmmm.

I hate to point this out, but it just occurred to me:

If I were baiting a trap and I had at my disposal units that could resurrect after being slain... I'd put a target on their backs and then goad the enemy into attacking them first and foremost before all other units because they're kind of the meat shields by definition.

This entire scenario screams 'bait' and I can't decide from what direction the shoe is going to drop.

Assuming everything is on the up and up and they don't know we're here and merely have made contingencies assuming we might interrupt:

1) Observation : First of all, the 10 meter birthday cake made of star stuff? That's a gift. It sets the tone for negotiations: it's not their entire damn supply. Stealing it is egg on their faces, but unless we capture/kill everyone the knowledge will out that this offer was put on the table and that hey, the Sect has a ten meter pile of the stuff in a basement somewhere let's go get it rah rah rah.

(Note: Assuming this is a trap trap leads to cartoonish Trojan horse type scenarios where it's been hollowed out and allowed to be captured only for it all to be Part of the Evil Plan and now Loki is in the right place to trigger the Hulk)

2) Which leads to a problem: the knowledge will out. Even assuming we kill/capture everyone present we're missing the shamans leading the ritual and likely the shishigui stealth units. Everyone has reinforcements except for probably the ice princess who seems, in attitude, to be a very ancient Rome kind of lady and believes the reputation of her civilization alone will protect her - admittedly I might be reading her wrong, but three different sets of enemy reinforcements is already three too many so let's hope there's only two.

3) And those hidden figures are just half of our known unknowns: we still don't know what the ritual is. Given the lack of intel on this obviously important diplomatic meeting going on, and the rather obvious (even to Ling Qi's eye) shortcomings of imperial strategic doctrine (we'll scare em' straight! That'll do the trick!) I don't know if we can trust the interpretation that this is a war ritual. It could be a ritual of welcome (which, afaik, is commonly done in the real world too - from our humdrum housewarming parties or housewarming gifts to the ceremony the Mohawk tribe performed when welcoming Syrian refugees to Canada - I just looked it up, it's called the Wood's Edge Ceremony) or even one of peace or unity. In many ways that's worse than the alternative: shamans killed performing a peaceful welcoming ceremony are going to become martyrs. All the hawkish factions will use their deaths to push the various tribes to war.

4) People were complaining earlier about there not being enough information to go on, and I have to agree: but given the circumstances I have to wonder if this blindness is a worldbuilding statement. The Empire seems to be incapable of respecting barbarians and what was once cultural seems to become existential the further up you go on the Cultivation ladder. The Empire, like Rome, is beating all contenders through sheer force of arms and technology, but doesn't understand their enemy.

I realize there are a lot of suppositions here, some even relying on the incompetence of our own forces, but I feel like we should keep in mind the larger strategic picture: our goal should be to prevent them from forming a coalition against us.

I just don't see how choosing who to attack and in what order can prevent the alliance from forming. Even securing the starstone is liable to backfire, irrespective of it being possible or not.
 
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[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard

I'm all for stomping the Shishigui as fast as possible. Hopefully, before any sacrificial techniques add another Cyan enemy to this mess. The same could be said about the starstone? Maybe? I wouldn't be surprised if someone had a 'turn starstone into nuke' tech.
 
Targeting the shishigui with CRX and Ling would stop them from recalling the alien stone back into the earth I'd imagine until help arrives.
The only way I can see us securing the stone would be stopping others from taking it with Zhengui's roots including shishigui but that paints a target on our back with a big disadvantage for defending it as the stone will suck up most of our techniques before they get off the ground.
Adhoc vote count started by picklepikkl on Jul 22, 2020 at 11:04 AM, finished with 328 posts and 105 votes.
 
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Alright, I didnt want to go further into pure speculation but

Chances are if Ling Qi manages to either nab the stone outright, or even be instrumental to securing it and taking it back with us, the Sect will give us some shavings or shards of it as use for a crafting material of some kind

Or even have Jiao or a subordinate make something for Ling Qi with it outright in a manner similar to how Ling Qi was awarded her Cai Dress in the first place, or given TRF.

This is a unique resource

And having a claim on even a sliver of it as loot means we have what is arguably a peak crafting material to make a new Talisman to last us through at least Cyan

Maybe even higher if the material was useful as weaponry even for a Prism in Ogodeis case

So strategic concerns aside, folks pursuing the shiny Weren't wrong to. It's just a tertiary concern compared to the other reasons Star Stealing Shenanigans is a good idea

Which is the whole point, really
 
Are you assuming there is?
If there is, I'm not exactly happier about following a plan that leaves the highest number of hostiles still standing.

I just don't see how choosing who to attack and in what order can prevent the alliance from forming. Even securing the starstone is liable to backfire, irrespective of it being possible or not.
I think you're right; Ling Qi is not the Great Woman who will Save the Empire from itself. The cracks in its foundations are a lot bigger than we are.

Doesn't mean nothing we do here matters, though. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure some of these diplomats are key to coordination between various tribes; trying to focus down the Cyan in particular might do a lot of damage to Sky People's unity if we can actually pull off killing him, and having that much starmetal to study might let the Sect get a much better understanding of its properties and how to defend against it.
 
The value of the stone to us is irrelevant, what matters that it is super important to the enemy, grabbing it is going to cause them to focus on us, which should leave them open to attacks from others.
Also i want to try actually stealing something, we just trained the wind thief and it's been so long.
 
If there is, I'm not exactly happier about following a plan that leaves the highest number of hostiles still standing.
Only if your gamble were guaranteed to pay off would it be superior

Which I am highly skeptical of, and pointed out repeatedly by now.

If you could guarantee the deletion of the Shishigui faction without interference from the strongest Cloud Tribe faction on the field, then this conversation would have taken a markedly different turn

But you cant and thus it has proceeded in this manner.
 
Secondly is the cyan with a mask made out of the stuff.
I doubt him wearing the mask means he would be immune to the effects of the starstone. More likely talismans and weapons carved from it are treated so that cultivators can use them w/o harm. Raw material like the big shiny over there is a different story, I think.
Also I get that people wanna see LQ go back to her roots and steal the big shiny. However, Guan Zhi said its a secondary objective. As in the overall battle and mission here is still more important. I really don't think we should be losing sight of that...especially when we'd need to be supporting CRX as much as possible...G4 vs. G7 is not good odds for her.
 
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