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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I just realized that it's gonna take us forever to break into cyan in real time with our current cultivation speed and chapter update frequency. I would be willing to support a 6-12 month timeskip after the current arc is finished.
 
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Arkeus said:
Urgh, this was a frustratingly badly written fight, with a really out of place ending and beginning.

Two main things stand out to me from it: first, it's clear that @yrsillar shouldnt give us the option to vote for tactics for how to do a fight, because it's a recurrent theme that while writing he realises he doesn't like the vote itself and does the opposite. Second, there really shouldn't be cheesy shonen finsih dialog to a fight that contradicts what actually happened in the fight.

Ling Qi acting exactly how we planned for her to act on a "full offense" plan is fine, but in that case there really shouldn't be votes, here. This isn't the first, second, or fifth time this has happened, and at this point we shouldn't be pretending to hold tactical votes.

Ji Rong talking about "can't fight alone" implies that Ling Qi didn't fight alone, and this was painful . Beside Ling Qi specifically sending Hanyi away as a 1vs1 so that she can have a 2.5vs1 instead of using superior 3.5vs2 teamwork shows that even in this fight, Ling Qi basically dismiss teamwork as much as she can get away with. This is also not a new thing but the continuation of every single fight since the beginning of the thread where Ling Qi refuses to actually do teamwork.

A scene implying Ling Qi is the expert there was really, really distasteful.
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Mmm, I feel like a lot of this is very much driven by habits from last year though?

Like, the problem here is that yrs doesn't interact with the system the same way we do. When we're stratagising - particularly in last year's system - the way we do it is through tech activation priority. In the old system, a defensive strategy was to dedicate all our actions to bringing up defensive buffs as fast as possible, with optimisation lying in determining which had the highest priority.

This, it may be argued, was perhaps a reflection of the flaws of the system, since a fight with more actual interaction and back and forth arguably makes more sense - and that seems to be what yrs was going for here.

(I also think that w. regards to the complaints about the vote, we can refer back to the post I made during it about how I wasn't really sure how to interpret the votes, and that the most literal reading of the "offensive" strategy would clearly be terrible and make no sense for LQ. The further we get away from the strict mechanical system of yesteryear, the harder it gets for me to work out how we're actually supposed to be strategising with our techs, since all the rotation theory breaks down.)

(honestly, I'd almost suggest that the problem here is the entire tech system, and the way it frames our interaction with the world)
 
Arkeus said:
Urgh, this was a frustratingly badly written fight, with a really out of place ending and beginning.

Two main things stand out to me from it: first, it's clear that @yrsillar shouldnt give us the option to vote for tactics for how to do a fight, because it's a recurrent theme that while writing he realises he doesn't like the vote itself and does the opposite. Second, there really shouldn't be cheesy shonen finsih dialog to a fight that contradicts what actually happened in the fight.

Ling Qi acting exactly how we planned for her to act on a "full offense" plan is fine, but in that case there really shouldn't be votes, here. This isn't the first, second, or fifth time this has happened, and at this point we shouldn't be pretending to hold tactical votes.

Ji Rong talking about "can't fight alone" implies that Ling Qi didn't fight alone, and this was painful . Beside Ling Qi specifically sending Hanyi away as a 1vs1 so that she can have a 2.5vs1 instead of using superior 3.5vs2 teamwork shows that even in this fight, Ling Qi basically dismiss teamwork as much as she can get away with. This is also not a new thing but the continuation of every single fight since the beginning of the thread where Ling Qi refuses to actually do teamwork.

A scene implying Ling Qi is the expert there was really, really distasteful.
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I genuinely don't understand how you can read "Defensive strategy. With your spirits build up your advantage of vitality and defense until it is insurmountable", and then read this update, and somehow come to the conclusion that one doesn't lead into the other. It always seems like you're consistently at-odds with practically any update after a strategic vote, and I can never wrap my head around why or how.
 
Erebeal said:
The problem is that those are awkward because they then compete with main narrative stuff. Like, I would argue that the work/rank grind should, to a degree, be a background thing LQ is doing just like cultivation.

... though admittedly, it doesn't help that yrs has said that we can get one of our biggest expenses (new flute) for free.

But yeah, we get pills reasonably regularly, we have a bunch of accessories we want, and at some point we should probably do a bit of tutoring for at least some advanced skills. If SP are also helping us get +rank at the same time, then doing it makes sense.
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I think a significant fix toward the amount of narrative space taken is to have these war missions inherently cost like 3-5AP each, so we only need to do those rarely and really only if we want to get SP fast or if we're feeling like we're lagging behind on ranks and can afford to fit some drug turn to make up for the AP cost.
 
[X] Plan: Whispering on the Wind
I'd rather get some low-stakes art modding experience under our belt.

[X] Plan: Fire and Flowers
-[X] Dexterity 3*, Intelligence 4*, Presence 4**, Qi (free rolls) 8** (22/40)
-[X] Perceptiveness 3**, Sincere Negotiator 2***, Beast Handling 4***, War 3**, Art 1*** (37/40)
-[X] Gardening: Art 1***, Woodwind 1*** (40/40)
 
Arkeus said:
Urgh, this was a frustratingly badly written fight, with a really out of place ending and beginning.

Two main things stand out to me from it: first, it's clear that @yrsillar shouldnt give us the option to vote for tactics for how to do a fight, because it's a recurrent theme that while writing he realises he doesn't like the vote itself and does the opposite. Second, there really shouldn't be cheesy shonen finsih dialog to a fight that contradicts what actually happened in the fight.

Ling Qi acting exactly how we planned for her to act on a "full offense" plan is fine, but in that case there really shouldn't be votes, here. This isn't the first, second, or fifth time this has happened, and at this point we shouldn't be pretending to hold tactical votes.

Ji Rong talking about "can't fight alone" implies that Ling Qi didn't fight alone, and this was painful . Beside Ling Qi specifically sending Hanyi away as a 1vs1 so that she can have a 2.5vs1 instead of using superior 3.5vs2 teamwork shows that even in this fight, Ling Qi basically dismiss teamwork as much as she can get away with. This is also not a new thing but the continuation of every single fight since the beginning of the thread where Ling Qi refuses to actually do teamwork.

A scene implying Ling Qi is the expert there was really, really distasteful.
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I can't agree with any of this
I actually had to spend a bit of time and discussion to decipher this because it's clear that you and I somehow came away from the update with literally opposite impressions

First being that you're under the impression this fight had Ling Qi on the offensive?
It was clear to me from the beginning that Ling Qi was playing defensively, she worked to control the flow of battle, set up her defenses and fields, and whittle down Ji Rong in a gambit to outlast him
Playing defensively doesn't mean you don't attack your opponent, and it doesn't mean you are passive either, defense can be active, she retreated from Ji Rong in between brief clashes, working to control space and set up her arts, wore him down and then when he finally gassed himself out, seized the opening to end him
That's a defensive posture, at no point could I ever interpret any of this as Ling Qi seeking to dominate the battle by blitzing him, which was the other option

The second being that you don't believe Ling Qi fought together with her spirits?
This fight had more teamwork in it than any I can recall off the top of my head, Hanyi peeling off to lock Relong down isn't a mark against teamwork, it's an indicator of it, Ling Qi had pre planned maneuvers where she trusted Hanyi to play her part
Fighting alone would be if Ling Qi just massed up with her spirits and tried to do all the lifting herself again, with them having to fight just to keep up and try to help her, in contrast they worked together flawlessly, each with their own part to play
They coordinated attacks, supported one another, covered openings, locked down outside interference, how is that not teamwork?
 
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Jensaarai said:
I genuinely don't understand how you can read "Defensive strategy. With your spirits build up your advantage of vitality and defense until it is insurmountable", and then read this update, and somehow come to the conclusion that one doesn't lead into the other. It always seems like you're consistently at-odds with practically any update after a strategic vote, and I can never wrap my head around why or how.
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I think this comes down to how much time you've spent buried in the mechanics and tech use strategising, especially last year. Because for someone used to that framework, the complaints make perfect sense - which is why I think it's problem with the way arts are communicated to us as much as anything.

The problem, as I see it (beyond residual expectations based on habits from last year), is that techs are communicated to us basically like pokemon moves. The do very specific things, and the question of broader applicability and approach doesn't really clearly apply there. Arguably, the problem is the art mechanics are too precise.
 
Hmm. My one true criticism with the fight is it feels like the initial exchange of blows between Ling Qi and Ji Rong only existed to get some ice in the boy's blood, and yrsillar realized that HR wouldn't hack it when Ji Rong is in full super-saiyan mode, so it had to happen right at the start.

Now, opening probing exchanges aren't really a problem, but it did set a certain tone. Contributing to that, Echoes is a defensive move, but it wasn't described as having any defensive impact in the fight in blunting his attacks. Narratively, it feels like it's just being used as a ramp-up to her offensive Cold attack, rather than Ling Qi using the tradition of an opening exchange to "sneakily" throw up a hybrid offense/defense technique.

It's a little odd that none of Ji Rong's power ups apparently dispelled the slowly freezing to death in his blood. A free debuff dispel is the kind of thing I'd expect from his arts, and he was in fact soft-dispelling our field effects after he buffed himself up fully. It's a little strange that HR stayed around from the very start of the fight till the very end of the fight for our convenience, especially when it would have been dealing damage to him the entire time.

Our flute sword also didn't do anything after popping out, but I'm just going to assume it flew off after Hanyi to reinforce her defences because we're cheaters.

Edit: thinking about it, I think a lot of this is probably the result of Ji Rong being a high speed/initiative character. He sets the pace of the fight, and to an extent you need to readjust on the fly. In that context, some of Ling Qi's moves make more sense as trying to open up space.
 
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People define whether a move is offensive as whether it does damage. And that's BS.

A technique is offensive when it is used on the attack and defensive when it used to. A dodge technique used to get an opponent to overextend and leave his vital points free is offensive. A dodge technique used to avoid an attack with the intent of opening the distance ... can be defensive or offensive depending on the relative capabilities and the user's intent with that dodge.

An aoe death field being laid down like a moat around a castle is defensive. An aoe death field sweeping toward an opponent is probably offensive.

But the point is that techniques have no "type." They are neither offensive nor defensive in and of themselves. That only comes with the purpose of the user and how it's used.
 
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Ji Rong, as our mirrored rival, was clearly capping out the arc he was having of "why the heck did I lose to LQ"

There were clearly parts he'd already worked on: the arrogant pride, underestimating enemies, not taking things seriously enough, not reading enough.
Do you know how much time in Forge we spent reading studying?
A lot.
We saw Ji Rong in the library right away in Threads, and he had already figured out the mistakes he had made.

But there was something else that was strong about us, and what he had assumed was us trying to find a strong wing to leech under was actually us making connections and threads for mutual benefit. Ways to slingshot ourselves forward and higher faster than we could do on our own. He's literally, in setting, more talented than we are.

But we have 4 spirits. None of the 3 have fully fleshed Ways, but Six is the closest and they did their job. Surprise debuff application, and making sure we aren't afflicted by anything nasty.
Zhengui did what they're best at, trumping the enemy spirit beast and being a hard point. Until we explicitly called for Teamwork Time.

At which point Hanyi, who is a 1v1 CC focused build so far, controlled Relong and dueled him into submission

freeing Zhengui to indulge in his increasingly potent Fire Support role, combo'd nicely with Six's Surprise Debuffing. Zhengui was also free to make as many roots as he wanted, and I hope that Gui gains some gardening Battlefield Control perks like Zhen gained the Artillery/FireSupport perks.

We also very clearly were waiting for Ji Rong to be worn down before committing to the offense, because we're not Xiulan levels of Feel No Pain but uh. When we straightened up and swallowed the huge attack? I'm pretty sure that was us feigning more fatigue than we felt. And we only Ended the fight with CtE when we were pretty sure it would End the fight. Which is how I like to see CtE used.
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in the end, Ji Rong comes to the same realization that we had already come to. You can't rely on your personal strength Alone. Through our connections with Cai and time spent with Meizhen we got access and known-requested-for synergy with a defensive Bai Art that swallowed Ji Rong's Domain's Nuke. Ji Rong may have used a blood art, but how much advantage has he gained compared to us?

not only that though. Our strategy explicitly used Hanyi's strength as a single-target CC focused, health and qi stealing duelist to capitalize on the lack of plan from Ji Rong and Relong. We split Relong off from Ji Rong, freed up Zhengui to assist and 3v1'd Ji Rong into a predicament that would force him to blow his full charge . . .
and we had used so little personal resources that we pretty cleanly just negated it.

only then did we personally step forward to do offense more than opportunistically/disruptively.

and most impressive of all, Ji Rong withstood the blow and finished his learning arc about the power of Not Being A Belligerent Ass All the Time.

I mean Friendship! Definitely Friendship, lolol
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glad to see that he's on board the "make friends" train though. I really do love the idea that we're the Wind that ushers in the Storm because like. Ji Rong's build is best against single targets, and our build rushes in at a similar speed to lightning and mulches swarm tactics. We work really well together, and has been pointed out we look very freaking Weilu..(a dark and cold forest: full of dire beasts, predatory spirits, occasionally with gouts of fire and dream unexpected and overwhelming.) And Ji Rong having an Imperial-style Celestial Dragon and Lightning aesthetic, now marrying to the Blood Arts of Sun (and as we know, the Emerald Seas are no stranger to Blood Art).

It's excellent Yin/Yang iconography for the most Spiritually Daoist province of the Empire.
hopefully GG gets some Sun going and we can have two Taiji
one with Ji Rong symbolizing the balance of the province
and one with GG to symbolize the Weilu Traditional Yin and Yang being the left and right hands of CRX, who is Wuji (the empty circle that fills with Yin and Yang to form the complete Taiji)
 
[X] Plan: Rainbows and Glitter

i'm actually interested in what the exploration action based on a map from our Patr(e)on could get us.
 
Arkeus said:
Urgh, this was a frustratingly badly written fight, with a really out of place ending and beginning.

Two main things stand out to me from it: first, it's clear that @yrsillar shouldnt give us the option to vote for tactics for how to do a fight, because it's a recurrent theme that while writing he realises he doesn't like the vote itself and does the opposite. Second, there really shouldn't be cheesy shonen finsih dialog to a fight that contradicts what actually happened in the fight.

Ling Qi acting exactly how we planned for her to act on a "full offense" plan is fine, but in that case there really shouldn't be votes, here. This isn't the first, second, or fifth time this has happened, and at this point we shouldn't be pretending to hold tactical votes.

Ji Rong talking about "can't fight alone" implies that Ling Qi didn't fight alone, and this was painful . Beside Ling Qi specifically sending Hanyi away as a 1vs1 so that she can have a 2.5vs1 instead of using superior 3.5vs2 teamwork shows that even in this fight, Ling Qi basically dismiss teamwork as much as she can get away with. This is also not a new thing but the continuation of every single fight since the beginning of the thread where Ling Qi refuses to actually do teamwork.

A scene implying Ling Qi is the expert there was really, really distasteful.
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Okay, let's go over this play by play.
yrsillar said:
Then he was in front of her, his fist outstretched, sparking knuckles nearly touching her nose. Ling Qi became the wind, and scattered as the heavenly bolt crashed through her. In the boom of thunder, her laughter could be heard.
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West Wind Step to avoid the alpha strike. Defensive move.
yrsillar said:
This time a palisade of writhing wood rose to stymie him, even as a young girl's laughter mingled with a dragon's roar.
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Spirit intervention.
yrsillar said:
As new grown wood blackened and bulged inward, Ling Qi used the moment bought and played the first notes of the Spring's End Aria, and called upon the echoes of true winter. Hoarfrost spread across the ground, and icy mist trailed from the hems of her dress as she ghosted backward, carried on the wind, riding the shockwave of the explosion that tore through Zhengui's barrier.
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Echoes of Absolute Winter. Defensive move. (It has offensive benefits as well, of course, but it counts.)
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When Ji Rong ripped through, a battlecry on his lips, she met him with a Hoarfrost Caress.

The screaming howl of a blizzard lashed him, and the scouring cold poured into his channels. Ji Rong, suspended in midair, shattered like fine glass, a great waterfall of sparks and static falling to earth amidst sparks of ice.
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Okay, that's a weird case. Offensive move?
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A fraction of a second later, she felt an impact on her cheek, From a scattered crackle of static, Ji Rong's fist materialized, followed by the rest of him. Her head snapped to the side as heavenly power ripped through layers of defensive qi. The follow up punch deflected off a ringing note in the air, and the third and fourth crashed through naught but air. The fifth struck her in the chest. Then within her mind, Sixiang stirred, and chaotic qi rippled out, disrupting Ji Rong's technique.
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Sixiang covers for LQ skipping defense.
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Ling Qi smiled thinly behind her flute, and flew backward without turning, toward Zhengui, flaring her qi in a prearranged signal.

Her little brother was engaged with Ji Rong's dragon, stabbing roots leaving scrapes and cuts across flying golden coils, but the moment that she gave the signal, he stopped, allowing the beam of liquid lightning that the young dragon spat to splash across his face to no effect.

Hanyi 's voice rose in song and drove Relong back with the voice of winter. She hopped from Zhengui's shell onto a squirming root, following as he retreated. That was the plan, she trusted Hanyi to deal with the dragon.
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Teamwork via planned focus switch.
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As Ji Rong cut through the air, hot on her trail, a massive quantity of qi flowed down through Zhengui's legs and into the field below.

The earth roiled with life. Roots the size of entire saplings erupted, interposing themselves. A flurry of fists tore apart a score, but a score more sprouted in their place. Ling Qi landed atop Zhengui's shell, it's volcanic heat only a pleasant warmth to her, and played a single ear piercing note.
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Spirit Intervention.
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Even if something could not be stopped, it could be redirected. Ji Rong, rocketing toward her still, despite the lashing and obstructing roots, was taken by surprise as an eagle screamed, and talons seized his shoulders from behind, using his how momentum to fling him across the battlefield. Amidst the grasping roots the phantoms of beasts rose, and the song of her sword and the Mist girded their claws and fangs in frost.
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Reopen range via repositioning. More effective than just stopping his attack. Defensive move.

Also brings up an attrition field, discourages dispelling, and shreds his defenses for Zhengui.
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It was not a sound which was meant to come from a human throat, pebbles rattled and rose from the earth and the Ling Qi felt the wind vibrate and shake. Blinding lightning erupted outward in every direction from his position and bolts fell from the clear , reflexively, Ling Qi called on the Starless shroud technique, and the bolts which fell upon her and her spirits vanished with nary a ripple.
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That really looks like it should be USR, but it's Shroud. Defensive move.
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Ling Qi leapt down from Zhengui's shell, her dress trailing behind her limbs like ripples of the night sky, and called forth the memories of revelry, the last link she needed to call forth to complete her defenses. Around her, howling beasts rose onto their hind legs, and snarls turned into callous laughter, robes and intricate arade armor bloomed across fur and hide, and Ling Qi felt the brush of dream.

Zhengui tensed, and ash began to fall like snow. The aches of what few hits had landed began to fade.
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Explicitly the last defense. Not used earlier because Ji Rong is immune to LW. (Also, Zhengui brings up ashfall and regen starts.)

At this point, defenses are all active. Offense begins.
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He charged, and Ling Qi remained still as the air around her shimmered, faint and dreamlike afterimages trailing her limbs as she raised her flute to her lips once more. Dissolving, she rematerialized behind him.
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Uh....Ephemeral Dreamlit Dancer? West Wind Step? Not an actual tech? IDK. Quasi-defensive.
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The pressure of her spirit smashed into him with the weight of glacier, and ice burns spread across his back, visible under his tattered robe. Ji Rong stumbled, and for a moment, she thought that he would be launched forward, ready to take another flume of magma from Zhengui.
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Grinding Glacial Melody. Attrition tech activation. Also cooperating with Zhengui.
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Ling Qi scattered, but this time it didn't help. A ten meter wide gash opened in the earth as the wind roared, and Ling Qi felt dizziness as the tremendous force tore apart the currents of wind on which she flowed, scattering, for a brief moment her perception into a thousand whirling sparks of color and noise.

Scattered and dizzy, she was struck a hundred times and more, sparking fists battering her spirit.
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West Wind Step. Unsuccessful defensive move.
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Ling Qi reformed, crouching on the ground, feeling as if she had been run over by a cart. Ji Rong stood above her, and Ling Qi prepared to step into dream, dragging them all away to rest the match.
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Preparing EDD, but-
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But around her, she felt the dream deepen, the world blurring and rippling, in a moment of communication with Sixiang, she understood. As Ji Rong drew back his fist, the world bent, and Sxiang manifested, slender arms wrapped around his chest. Their features were feminine, and as they leaned forward to nip at his ear, space bent and his movements slowed.

"Heeeey cutie, things are about to get hot," Sixiang giggled.

It was at that point that magma concentrated down to a single point erupted under his feet, and Ling Qi flowed back to her feet, the revelers around her beginning to cheer and stamp their feet.
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Sixiang intervention into Zhengui nuke.
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Ji Rong was far from unharmed, burns marred his skin, his clothes were tattered and charred, and she could see a trembling in his right leg that spoke of coming collapse. None of that changed the ring of scintillating lightning that burned overhead like a gods crown. None of that changed the exultant cry of falling lightning that fell upon them, a blast which she could only compare to Cai Renxiang's light in experience.

The silence did.

The roar of lightning, the music and revelry and howls of beasts, even the distant sound of Hanyi's laughter all fell silent. Starless Night's reflection was an art that mimicked the bottomless lakes of the Bai lands. The Black Mirror technique was it's most potent defense, and she used it now, draining her reserves precipitously. Darkness bloomed from Ling Qi, and swallowed them all.

A moment later it shattered, and the lightning was gone, the field lay unchanged, as if nothing had happened at all.
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Black Mirror defense.
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Ling Qi stepped forward and laid her hands on the gaping young man's smoking shoulders.

She sang silence, and the revelers roared.
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He's out of qi/buffs/options/etc. This is just a formal finisher for a fight that's already over.
 
Erebeal said:
Mmm, I feel like a lot of this is very much driven by habits from last year though?

Like, the problem here is that yrs doesn't interact with the system the same way we do. When we're stratagising - particularly in last year's system - the way we do it is through tech activation priority. In the old system, a defensive strategy was to dedicate all our actions to bringing up defensive buffs as fast as possible, with optimisation lying in determining which had the highest priority.

This, it may be argued, was perhaps a reflection of the flaws of the system, since a fight with more actual interaction and back and forth arguably makes more sense - and that seems to be what yrs was going for here.

(I also think that w. regards to the complaints about the vote, we can refer back to the post I made during it about how I wasn't really sure how to interpret the votes, and that the most literal reading of the "offensive" strategy would clearly be terrible and make no sense for LQ. The further we get away from the strict mechanical system of yesteryear, the harder it gets for me to work out how we're actually supposed to be strategising with our techs, since all the rotation theory breaks down.)

(honestly, I'd almost suggest that the problem here is the entire tech system, and the way it frames our interaction with the world)
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Saying the problem is due to technique is I think ignoring the broader picture of how the spar was written and designed. All the "controlling the fight for a long time" potential things Ling Qi could do were ignored in favor of the fast paced slugging ones, and the fight more or less ends in first crescendo of the fight, denoting a fast pacing and quick resolution.

You don't have Ling Qi designing her tactics around a defensive win point, be it by taking advantage that she can afford to be wounded thanks to Zhengui's healing so that she can find ways to play the long game, or choosing to invite attacks so that Zhengui can counter attacks, or juggling Relong in the middle of Ji Rong's pace as Ling Qi thrive in chaos, and so on.

Instead, what we have is the standard design for a offensive set up where Ling Qi begins by trying to hit as hard as she can, notice it doesn't quite work, ask one of her spirit beast to go away to keep down the chaos of the battlefield and then pit her strongest ability against Ji Rong's strongest and emerged quickly victorious.

There was no 'goals' in her defenses there, so I think that saying it's a issue of tech vs defensive strategy misses the point that there was no defensive strategy and that the 'back and forth' is in fact a offensive strategy. A defensive strategy would have been the opposite of back and forth, and instead focus on constant, slow going attrition while controlling what Ji Rong could do, not an explosive "tech vs tech" to decide the winner.

Or, I guess, there could be lots of types of defensive strategy. Just not a classic offensive one like what we got.

I think the complaints about how to interpret the votes you had focused too much on the 'buff cycles' of last thread, and didn't focus enough on what Ling Qi would consider her goals when fighting offensively or defensively, but that this isn't a issue of techs themselves, though obviously the techs Ling Qi used did show that she was going all out offensive from the start.
 
AbeoLogos said:
That's not really the issue. You'd understand if you crunched more numbers. :V

(The criticisms don't really have anything to do with numbers, to be clear.)
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Tbh, I feel like we should be assumed to be signed up for a certain degree of Sect work by default as long as the war as on, with the option of requesting time off for closed door there to be used occasionally.
 
Whoof. Ji Rong got a serious buff to his domain weapon when it got reworked, seeing as it went from a one-time full restore to a literal "I have 9 lives" kind of deal. That's gonna be super un-fun for whichever Shishigui or barbarian group he starts beating on in the future, when he comes out of the gate strong and just won't die.

It couldn't really stand up to the ridiculous levels of efficiency we get out of our combat suite, but it got real close. That's darn impressive, so I'm not surprised he jumped about twice as many ranks as we did. (Little curious as to just what Kang Zihao did to manage a 30+ rank jump, though.)

[X] Plan: Rainbows and Glitter
[X] Plan: Fire and Flowers

Anywho, I'm gonna go for the gacha over the modding - as I understand it they're both a bit of a gamble, but one has hard-ish numbers and the other doesn't.
 
Erebeal said:
Tbh, I feel like we should be assumed to be signed up for a certain degree of Sect work by default as long as the war as on, with the option of requesting time off for closed door there to be used occasionally.
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Is this your stealth way of asking for 1 AP locked to Sect jobs? Or whatever the option is for gaining CP? Because I don't necessarily disagree. With a war on, I feel like Ling Qi should be locked into assisting it given her Cai-given goal.

Edit: Also, Ji Rong learned a lesson but not THE lesson from the tournament fight last year. He made the same mistake then as he did here.
 
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[X] Plan: Rainbows and Glitter

This has my vote for the moment although I kinda agree how LQ can contribute to the war effort, and rank advancement is rather awkward for the moment.
 
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