Given the power gap between them and what we're hunting, I expect everyone in the archery squad to have Green potency archery arts. Otherwise they wouldn't actually be contributing much. Those who don't should be placing themselves in other formations. Doesn't seem that unlikely for such arts to be relatively common either. Average nobles are more lax with their scheduling than we are. Picking up a sideboard archery art for hunting excursions is a luxury we can't afford, but they very well could. These losers have been in the Inner Sect for years.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
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- At the end of the world
[X] Ling Qi would take the role of bait, it was the best use of her abilities within the limitations of the hunt. It would be more impressive and she was suited to protecting the other 'bait' cultivators.
My reasoning is that by dancing around and taking hits from strong beast we can advance our Dancing or/and Fortitude to B rank.
My reasoning is that by dancing around and taking hits from strong beast we can advance our Dancing or/and Fortitude to B rank.
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We also know of Mama Spider who has taken Li Suyin under her uh leg
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Ling Qi would take the role of bait, it was the best use of her abilities within the limitations of the hunt. It would be more impressive and she was suited to protecting the other 'bait' cultivators.
- Location
- United States of America
Your right, that would make three. Huh... there used to be three Cyan level spirits in the area and most of the students don't even know about them. Although, I guess they could have known and simply ignored them, but it's funnier to imagine them not knowing at all.
Depends on how many meridians those guys opened I suppose. A fair point though.
To be fair when you're some scrub yellow you're not gonna press your luck trying to make friends with a cyan when the greens that hang around it could make you lunch if you fuck up the supplication
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- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- She/They
Because we aren't here to focus on fighting it. We are here to talk and make friends. Very different goals.
Plus it seems a fair guess that we can and will benefit from the ally-support arts the others will be using.
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Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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No, at this point we're here to fight a Green 4 Mirage Lion with some other cultivators. If we wanted to socialize then the social vote should've won instead.
Half-assing a social action when things are going to get moderately dangerous isn't going to result in positive relations with these people.
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Then we should have just gone for the dungeon dive vote, but we went social instead. Now we are here with at least two others that equal the lion and one that could easily solo it. Preventing deaths and injury isn't on us, it is on our host. Picking a social setting and then taking every opportunity to avoid people is just wasteful.
And I think you are reading way, way to much into the idea that our skills *might* be useful to the bait group. That doesn't translate to 'people will blame injuries on Li'- it might suggest it as a possibility, but taking it as fact and sacrificing the PRIMARY GOAL of this AP spend to mitigate it is... Paranoid.
That's not even considering something like a counter-ambush, where us being available to protect the archers prevents them from being injured.
The premise of winning vote last time was "impressive skills may bring admiration". I think it was a bad call, but that's not important. If you look at what was actually done in this last update, Ling Qi... didn't really demonstrate impressive skills. She fucked off out of sight into the forest with Alingge and played messenger girl. Luo Zhong praised the two's efforts, but it's not like they were actually witnessed, and half the group doesn't even prefer the quarry we located because they're weenies. Ling Qi showed off that she's fast, but that's about it. Picking the socialize option now feels like half-assing both votes, because the principle opportunity of the original choice doesn't look like it actually materialized.
I half suspect Yrsillar cut the update short to insert a consolation decision point for those whining about social like me, but it's just awkward given the circumstances.
I half suspect Yrsillar cut the update short to insert a consolation decision point for those whining about social like me, but it's just awkward given the circumstances.
I agree with you 100% that we fucked up and squandered this event, but the fact is that in doing so we cornered ourselves and the socialize option remaining is crap by comparison.
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I think you'll find that the last vote was actually about getting on with Alingge, which we have successfully done in this update.
We're making new friends! What more could you want?
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
- Location
- The Void
The way I see it, last vote was about the direction of the arc rather than what's gonna happen next update. "Showing off impressive skills" imo is an act that appeals to people in general. I said it before
Hence I really don't think we've wasted our vote
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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The thread decided to participate in an event with the local nobles, probably as consideration for our duty as CRX's retainer. In the continuation of this, we've decided to do a cooperative hunt and then found a decent spirit beast to fight. Do you seriously think that back-tracking on those choices to have some mid-battle discussion is the smartest or most socially competent option?
I'm not talking about the competency of LQ's arts, or whether she'll be pivotal, but just the fact that we've already established how she's interacting with this event. Being a flip-flopping flip-flopper about whether we actually want to socialize or participate in the hunt that we voted for is silly.
The general idea is that the archery group is a pack of yellows/partial greens that are just going to unload onto the Lion once the baiting group lures it out and the higher tier greens trap the Lion in place. Sort of a Death of a Thousand cuts type strategy. FSA fits in with the other arts that would be used by the
[x] Ling Qi would take the role of bait, it was the best use of her abilities within the limitations of the hunt. It would be more impressive and she was suited to protecting the other 'bait' cultivators.
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Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
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Maybe, but if so what is everyone going to think when a Green 3/2 decides to sit and talk with the little league in the back?
Interesting new friends. Can I be blamed for my disappointment at Alingge turning out so boring? She didn't even spill any deep dark secrets to us. Lame. You know who that reminds me of? Han Jian. The guy we ditched because he's too boring. Friends need to be immediately obviously dysfunctional like Meizhen, Xiulan, or Renxiang or they're just not worth our time.
If true, that creates a fairly awkward balance when different decision point breaks are accounted for. This last update didn't do much impressive, like at all, but it feels like going the social route would have actually involved a good chunk of social in its first "leg" given the social blurb we did get.
And I call it a waste anyway, since the event's an unusual kind of activity for Ling Qi and we, as players, didn't take advantage to immerse her into the rarer side of it. I acknowledge that we likely have different perspectives there.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
I made a post back on page 969 that then, when I edited my vote into it, got flagged for moderation (EDIT: it's back!). It covered some of what I want to say here, but I do feel the need to respond to:
I feel this is needless doomsaying. I know I'm new to the thread, but I tried to pay attention as I went, and it hasn't seemed to me like Yrsillar has ever put "trap" decisions as the literal first decision of an arc. Those seem to define the approach that needs to be taken, or selects one or another set of encounters that fit with the theme of the arc in general. The argument I quoted seems to be that Yrsillar put "accomplish your goal or shoot yourself in the foot" up front and is just stringing us along in this update without consequences/feedback, which I think is absurd. My reading, on a meta level, is that the first decision point was Yrsillar saying "you can accomplish your goals by getting buddy-buddy with them, but you'll have to restrain your overachiever side so as not to ruffle feathers, or by showing off, in which case you have to do something impressive to actually earn their admiration."
I would have personally more enjoyed reading the former. I feel like Ling Qi's gifts are better suited to the latter (as my in-mod-queue post explained). But I think both, if executed properly, will help us repair our damaged Nobility social link, and so strongly reject the notion that we've squandered anything.
(It is possible, of course, that I will turn out to have been wrong, in which case I shall of course publicly admit to such and update on this new evidence, but the above reflects my best current prediction.)
I feel this is needless doomsaying. I know I'm new to the thread, but I tried to pay attention as I went, and it hasn't seemed to me like Yrsillar has ever put "trap" decisions as the literal first decision of an arc. Those seem to define the approach that needs to be taken, or selects one or another set of encounters that fit with the theme of the arc in general. The argument I quoted seems to be that Yrsillar put "accomplish your goal or shoot yourself in the foot" up front and is just stringing us along in this update without consequences/feedback, which I think is absurd. My reading, on a meta level, is that the first decision point was Yrsillar saying "you can accomplish your goals by getting buddy-buddy with them, but you'll have to restrain your overachiever side so as not to ruffle feathers, or by showing off, in which case you have to do something impressive to actually earn their admiration."
I would have personally more enjoyed reading the former. I feel like Ling Qi's gifts are better suited to the latter (as my in-mod-queue post explained). But I think both, if executed properly, will help us repair our damaged Nobility social link, and so strongly reject the notion that we've squandered anything.
(It is possible, of course, that I will turn out to have been wrong, in which case I shall of course publicly admit to such and update on this new evidence, but the above reflects my best current prediction.)
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[x] Ling Qi would take the role of bait, it was the best use of her abilities within the limitations of the hunt. It would be more impressive and she was suited to protecting the other 'bait' cultivators.
We got them to take the riskier option. Its for us to mitigate the risks for them.
We got them to take the riskier option. Its for us to mitigate the risks for them.
It'd be nice to have a friend that could fix us rather than the other way around. Six is only one spirit they can't do it all themselves!
Baby steps Abeo. We only just met her.
A little bit too on the nose there. Careful, might make people question the social decisions, and start making more useful, non-controversial allies.
You misunderstand. I don't think it's a trap option or that Ling Qi will be harmed or efforts wasted. My position is that as players we've squandered an opportunity to explore and expand Ling Qi as a character through our decision, while also leading to a resolution to our poor reputation that I find personally less desirable, interesting, or in my estimation flexible. Showing off in a hunt doesn't expand her toolset for dealing with the gossiping masses. I think the direction in this event has been short sighted and more likely to lead to lackluster results down the road, which is something that has happened in the past. Within the context of the event itself, both choices were equally legitimate.
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Ah, OK, sure, I understand. You wanted Ling Qi's capabilities to broaden and the current course of action involves doubling-down on her existing approach of "just win harder."
I think the latter is more fitting given our place in cultivator society, but now I understand why you might legitimately feel this event has been wasted.