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Star healing, escalation! Refresh!
There is an informational threadmark of retrospection and speculation which may be useful, at this time, to readers who are catching up.

[6] Fight this witch

-[3] Try to heal her with star staff / feather magic
-[2] (unspecified tactics)

Crew:
--[5] with Kyouko
Kyouko can do a latticework barrier. Good choice.
--[3] with Nanami
--[3] with Ryouko

(last minute switching because she might be vulnerable)
--[1] actively WITHOUT Ryouko

You want to try healing a witch, Clarisse? Well. Let it never be said you are daunted by things just because they're kinda sorta a little impossible. Yes, I understand you've got access to the Star Staff yourself, but as it stands, it's far beyond your own abilities. A trivial suppression of an incidental side-effect of a wish was enough to knock you out cold. And Ryouko can use the staff, too, but, well, healing a witch using conventional magic, instead of wish magic, is a very tall order indeed. Now, if you had the actual article, I'd be much more comfortable with your odds —

[3] Paradox yourself a feather from the 1980s
-[2] Try to have it installed in the hairpin

Aha. Hahahaha. Why, yes, Clarisse. You could just paradox yourself a feather. Why not? It says right there she's the Paradox Witch! Makes sense, right? Hey, you know what? I was thinking. While you're at it, have you considered trying to halt the tide, like King Canute? I mean, you're the Moon Princess! Clearly that sphere will wax and wane at your bidding! Haha.

[2] Attempt to reason out the current situation with the witch
-[1] In a way that does not interfere with fighting/healing her


You consider what you know about her right now. One major thing that's different is that she's much more articulate. This isn't normal. The labyrinth is also pretty bare, much like Homura's time-stop. No familiars. Also, she's referring to you by a witch-name like Gretchen did. Is this a thing articulate witches do, to mess with you? Or … did the two of you become witches together somewhen?

There's a slight chance she's not a witch. But she's at least as borderline as Gretchen, and possibly worse. Gretchen's soul gem was blackened, but with a point light. Simona's, or Abraxas's, is radiating dark corruption.

So if this is a witch Simona, which one is she? Is she the Star Empire one, or Governance? Imperial Simona would have reason to hate you if she died in the past but timestop would be a better match to the Governance power-set. But governance Simona is in America … She's in America, without her magic. She was on the edge of despair when she left, wasn't she? She was chewing out the Goddess.

If a Governance girl witches out, do runes end up in all the nomenclators?



The first problem with your proposed paradox is that people who care about you removed it from your hair while you were knocked out, and you haven't put it back on since you woke up. It's beside your bed, across the room.

You could just teleport over to grab it — no. Ryouko's teleport magic is in another universe right now.

You'll just act casual. And ask questions, too. Try to understand things, as you go along.

-[1] Would it be possible to use our powers to send a message in the past to ourselves? Hypothetically.

"Might we open a some sort of a time window, instead?" you ask.

"In theory," she says. "But we're close to the edge of a time loop here. It's much more stable to just rewind."

-[1] ask about stealing a bit of Homura.

"Okay," you say, standing up and straightening your dress. "So, Homura, then…"

She nods. "We have to borrow her soul through the Star Princess's magic. That's your job, of course; can't have Ryouko do it, obviously."

Of course, using another's magic is using their soul. It makes sense. It's just a little unsettling to hear it that way — especially given the Star Empire, and the scale of it all …

Well.

"I'd need a justification," you observe.

"Do it in the name of Madoka," proposes Simona. "That's always her prime loyalty. The paradox we want puts Madoka in this timeline, and it's the only world the two of them can be together."

You've made it to the nightstand.

"Okay," you say. "Give me a detailed parameter envelope so I can get everything right this time?"

You pluck the hairpin from the nightstand and secure it within your braids.

Now, did it work?

Oh.

Oh, stars.

Oh, stars, if you look for it, it's actually in there.

Your heart beats faster. How can it actually be there? What is this? Is this what it feels like when you meet Kyuubey for the first time? Goddess. There is a sense of your model of reality breaking a little, yes, and it's scary, but at the same time, there's a sense of empowerment. You might be able to change anything. It's a heady feeling.

But first, uhm….

just how the heck do you actually use it?

... you don't have any idea, do you?

"Just honor the deal," declares the witch, drawing your attention away again. "That's what matters."

"I'm not sure how that helps," you object. You'll leave it there in the pin for the moment, lest she notice something amiss…

The atmosphere of the time-stop, or the labyrinth, crackles with ambient energy.

"If she's so egalitarian," says Abraxas, looking at you intently, "there's no wall keeping her apart from Asami. This should be obvious, Clarisse." She stares at you, menacingly.

… You expect this might be where things fall apart.

You lunge for Kyouko.





You have caught your its-complicated girl by the arm, and your missive to her is very speedy. A witch, with timestop powers, has snuck up on us, you send. You enclose suggestions for a placement of a Latticework Barrier. Fortunately for you, Kyouko is fast.

What the hell is this?
asks Kyouko, as a barrage of hexagons crashes against her lattice. And why does it say Abraxas in weird letters?

On the tactical data-stream you can see runes present in her nomenclator as well.

This is Simona's witch, I think, you say. 90% confidence she's a witch. Though, most witches don't talk this much. It's quite unusual, and possibly an incredibly valuable opportunity, so try not to hurt her just yet.

Try
not to hurt a witch that's fighting us? asks Kyouko, incredulously.

Well, she's been saying very interesting things, you note. Also, I might have a way to save her.

That last bit gets Kyouko's attention.

"We made a deal, Maggie," says Abraxas, holding up her right hand.

You look at what she's holding — a thin red strip of fabric.

Oh goddess, she has a ribbon. Is that why she's still coherent? That's probably why. And it could be any Simona's witch, once she got hold of a ribbon.

The space around you is becoming confusing now. Where did Nanami go? There's a Madoka and a Hitomi sitting on the floor. Next to them is a mirror image of the two, upside down. Next to that is Madoka with Hitomi's hairstyle — or is that just a pink Hitomi in Madoka's dress? Is there even a difference?

The others might be hard to get to.

"You want to make a deal?" asks Kyouko. "Is that why you're trying to kill us?"

"If I were trying to kill you, you'd be dead," she says, smiling. "Did you hope to stand against me? Even with all your friends? And then you could fight Walpurgisnacht, and have tea and cakes with Mami!" She cackles.

"God damn," says Kyouko, adding another layer to the barrier. "Can we make her shut up?"

You consider the hopeless maze around you again. The good news for now is that she doesn't seem to interested in the others. Unfortunately this means you can't reach them, either.

But …

but you can still wake Ryouko, because there's a you in there. You just need to reach out to it, and … yes! there she is.

Stay very still, you tell Ryouko. Don't let her realize you're there, you say, and supply an explanation.

"Remember, Maggie?" she asks. "The first time you pushed Ryouko to rewrite the universe. When you saw what that did to her."

"I'm very sorry," you reply. "I don't remember that ever happening."

"Yes, well, that not-happening was the point, wasn't it?" asks Abraxas. "And it was your idea to begin with."

"Well, I don't remember any of it," you admit. "Could you please explain?" you ask.

Abraxas rolls her eyes, and crosses her arms.

"Our goddess Ryouko saved humanity countless times," lectures Abraxas, "with all the might of humanity behind her, and the prophet Oriko to guide her. But Oriko failed, and Ryouko fell into despair, and shattered the universe around her. The two of us despaired as well."

"But you had a clever idea. You borrowed magic from another timeline, to rewind time, and set up clever loops so you could fix everything, long before the Star Empire even existed. You'd borrowed a Ryouko from another universe, time looped her influence back into the original. You even found a version you didn't even feel bad about kidnapping, a ghost Ryouko, from a hell dimension. You wrote a new past for her — for all three of us. We were supposed to live a mediocre life together as spoiled little rich girls, free of fate and history."

You shake your head.

"The person that I am right now never agreed to any of this," you tell her.

Abraxas scowls. There are familiars visible, now, in outline, shadowy dancers at the edge of vision.

"I see what you did," she says, crossing her arms. "You're from that hell dimension, aren't you? That's why you let Ryouko get killed, so that Nanami brought you back, it would be the other version, and you wouldn't swap back." She shakes her head. "All so you could be sneaky about Asami."

"Whoever you dealt with, whoever set that up, she's not me," you insist.

Abraxas shakes her head.

"I will hold you to her promise either way, Clarisse," she says, hissing the sses. "You don't let Ryouko make any grand acts of self-sacrifice. And you don't let her fall in love with Asami."

You take a deep breath.

"I'm so sorry," you say. "My Ryouko is already very much in love with Asami. This love is important to her, and it is my duty to protect that."

"Then I will destroy you," says the witch, summoning a blob of energy in a very strange shape. There are lots of hexagons, writhing, and an internal pattern matcher helpfully suggests they could be inscribed on hyperspheres embedded in a rather extreme anti-DeSitter spacetime of eight dimensions. You're not sure how well Kyouko's barrier will hold up against such a thing. Meanwhile, the perspective deformation on the room is even worse than before, the floor and walls and ceiling a jumble.

"Simona?" interrupts Ryouko, speaking up.

The witch stops.

"R-Ryouko?" she asks.

"This… this isn't right, Simona," says Ryouko. "Please don't hurt them."

Simona's mouth hangs open.

"But… but…"

She drops to the ground.

"… then what is right?" she asks.

Ryouko just shakes her head.

"No, I want to know," says Simona. "Tell me. Please. Tell me…" She breathes in deeply. "Tell me why it's okay for you to sacrifice yourself and destroy the Empire for that girl, but it isn't okay for me to do something like this, to save you?"

Ryouko closes here eyes, and takes a deep breath.

"I don't think it was ever just about the one girl," says Ryouko, carefully. "I think she's just part of the bigger picture. It's about things the Empire did, that it shouldn't have done." She opens her eyes again. "I think it's about setting that right."

"But that isn't your sin," says Simona. "You didn't ask for anything terrible things to happen. You don't owe the universe a penance just for being a pawn in everyone's schemes. Just for existing, when they made you exist."

"If I don't do anything about it, though," asks Ryouko, "then… what would that make me?"

"It would make you Ryouko!" she says. "You're yourself. You don't need to fight just to make that person matter! Can't you see that there are people who care about you so much? Why isn't that ever enough? Just … just be yourself."

"Simona…" says Ryouko, a little surprised and confused.

"You matter to me, Ryouko!" says Simona. "More than anything else in the world, I care about you. I lo…"

She breaks down into tears.

"I love you too, Simona," says the princess, walking over to her, to hold her close.

Simona shakes her head, and stares at the ground. "I think we're talking about different kinds of love," she says, miserably.

Ryouko runs her fingers through Simona's hair, gently.

"Perhaps," she says, contemplatively.

It is quiet for a moment.

"So. You're in love, then," says Ryouko.

"There was always this magic around you," says Simona, "I could never bring myself to say… I tried to get around it… but it's too late, isn't it?" she asks. "Or it was always too late."

"You said something earlier, and you were right," says Ryouko. "I didn't ask for the terrible things that the Star Empire does. But I did ask for this. With a wish, I did this to you. And I don't want to be the kind of person who doesn't do anything about it."

"Don't — please don't do something big and stupid and sacrifice yourself for me, Ryouko," says Simona, alarmed.

Ryouko shakes her head.

"No," she says. "I won't do that. But — but I reserve the right to do something big and stupid for everyone, okay? Because you just told me … you told me to be myself, right?" She takes a deep breath. "And I do want to be special to everyone, but … that should be something I earn myself," she says. "Not because I took something from them." She turns to Simona. "If you really want to be in love with me, that's who you get to be in love with, okay?"

"… Then you'll die," says Simona. "You'll… worse than die. So much worse."

"Maybe it'll be different this time," says Ryouko, smiling. "We have two different Clarisses to help, after all. Have a little hope."

"No, I can't," says Simona.

She's right, you realize, and relay to Ryouko and Kyouko. There's no more room for any hope in her. Not in this state of being.

But that's terrible,
objects Ryouko.

It is, you agree. But I think I can do something about it.


You realize that the question of how to use the feather isn't a problem anymore.

The feather, rather, is going to use you.




> remember being Sakura

Earlier today you were in a classroom. You watched a black and white film on a projector. It was a stodgy sort of education film, produced by the ministry of health. The man narrating the film was very serious. The topic of the film was public health and vaccination. The public health ministry wants all the children to get the new vaccine for measles, so they are discussed the history of vaccines.

You have forgotten most of them.

You almost weren't scared at first. It wasn't terrible. There was just a shiny box. It looked almost like something you'd see in space. There was a girl in the box. The girl cannot use her lungs, and so the box breathes for her. She can't leave the box. This is because of polio. It paralyzed her muscles. Even when she wasn't sick anymore, she was too weak to breathe.

They told you it won't happen again.

But the box scares you.



Tomoyo-chan is sitting beside you. You are holding onto her hand and trying to maintain your composure.

"If it's keeping her alive," you ask, "why is it so scary?"

Tomoyo-chan shakes her head quietly.

"I don't know," she says.

It's really the idea of the box that scares you.

Because it's like a coffin. The girl in a coffin, and she's still alive.

And that's the sort of thing that can happen in the world, and that's why you are scared like you've maybe never been before.

And you are staring at your lunch, and there is a pit in your stomach, and a sense of helplessness.



And this feeling is why you already transformed into a borrowed costume, splashed with lilac, but also with pink. This is why you have summoned the staff. You know what to do to the grief seed, now. You absolutely have to do it. because somehow you know that living in that cruel little engine is much worse than any coffin. At least the dead have peace.

The motions of this particular invocation are elaborate, yet they feel as familiar as if you'd practiced them yourself. You twirl the staff about, reach for the magic, and —

— wait.

Are you… about to say something silly in front of everyone and do the sort of thing that Sakura Kyouko explicitly warned everyone about, in the twenty fifth century?

… M-maybe you can say it internally.

They don't have to know, right?

Right.

Star healing, escalation! Refresh!

oh goddess your cheeks are red anyway.



Did anyone ever tell you that you use an awful lot of star magic for a moon princess? It's funny. But that aside, you needn't be ashamed.

And no one's looking at you, either. They're looking at the brilliant white light that shines around the grief seed, now hovering next to Simona, and likewise shines from Simona herself. She looks down at hands, which are sparkling now, and then back up to Ryouko.

"…Hope," she says, through tears.

Ryouko nods. "Hope," she says, and wraps her arms around the girl.

"Okay," says Simona. "Hope."

Simona is still on her knees, so Ryouko is actually taller than her, and she leans down to place a gentle kiss on Simona's forehead.

Simona looks up, and her eyes go wide.

Then she smiles, and she shines very brightly, the light enveloping all of you.



You find that have transformed back to normal clothes, the feather's ideas for you having run their course.

Simona is gone — or, at least, that avatar of despair is. The grief seed remains, still hovering there, glowing white, wispy lights rising to the sky.

Suddenly, the light goes out.

Kyouko frowns. "Is that bad?" she asks.

You're not sure. You don't think it's bad exactly, but there's something unsettling about it.

There is a click, and a rushing sound, and darkness pours out of the seed and swirls around all of you in a whirlwind.

Something files past you, striking you on the cheek, and you realize.

Kyouko! you call out over your tactical channels. Put up a barrier, around all of us. A dome. It should be tight, but still let the wind through.

Kyouko quickly summons the lattice, just as the last great gust blows forth from the gem.

The dim blue layer over the rest of the world is suddenly shot through with color, and you are in the flow of time again.



Madoka makes a small noise of surprise, as she catches the last of the blast.

Nanami blinks.

The wind quickly dies down to nothing again.

"Did something just happen?" asks Hitomi, politely, looking around.

"Yes," says Ryouko. "There was a — a witch?" she asks, double checking the term.

You nod.

"With timestop." says Kyouko. "But we… healed it, or something." She looks around. "Disassembled it?"

"Healed it?" asks Nanami, then looks at you skeptically. "Why does Clarisse have teeny tiny white wings?"

"Uhm," you say, looking to your shoulder. "I found a new way to borrow magic."

They're from the Sakura feather, of course… the real question is how they're actually going through the fabric of your dress. Some sort of magic, it seems. You think you can hide them, if you put some effort into it. From Ryouko's perspective, you can also see a pink streak in your hair.

"… they're adorable," concludes Nanami, grinning.

Madoka looks mostly confused, but smiles tentatively.

The black feathers have landed about the room with their shafts pointing towards Ryouko. They are all sparkling at the edges, almost fizzling, sparkling white lights clustering on the fringes before rising into the air.

Nanami picks one up and looks at it.

"… Count them," you say, quickly. "How many are there?"

A few of them are overlapping, but the count is swift.

"… Twenty-seven," you conclude. "Out of… thirty-two. Five missing."

"So," says Nanami. "Just how dangerous are they?"

"I don't know," you say.

… How far did they go? Are they even in this same timeline?



Suddenly, there is a knock on the door, and then, without waiting, it opens.

"Aaaah!" you exclaim. The feathers — and for that matter, your fluffy white wings — are not hidden at all. "No, don't come in," you begin, blushing, "we're, uh—"

Shizuki Tomoyo steps through the door anyway, her eyes glowing.

Yes, it's me. Hello again. Still narrating the story. Most of it, anyway.

"Calm down, now, Abnegator," I say. "It's not as if I didn't know exactly what was going on up here already. You dropped something."

I reach out to place a tall dark feather in your hand.

"Be very careful with people's feelings," I warn you, taking your hand and giving it a quick squeeze. "And with your own. Okay?"

"Oh — o-okay," you say, taking the feather in the other hand.

I smile.

"Now, Clarisse," I say, "I know you have got questions, but I don't have enough magic to paradox you all the answers safely. Besides, I have to get back before Hitomi's mother realizes that she's not at home, or the slipper princess tries to write something very silly about your throne. There's just one small thing first. Small, but important."

In case it's not obvious from me nuzzling your fluffy little white wings, the important thing is me nuzzling those fluffy little white wings.

"Oh, the floof!" I exclaim, twirling about on the way to the door. "The fluffiest. See you girls later!~~"

Madoka waves, a hapless expression on her face.

Kyouko reaches out to pet the fluffy white wings — which feels very good, and is incredibly relaxing.

"… Clarisse," asks Hitomi, "what in the name of goodness was that about?"

"Oh," you explain, earnestly. "That was a different version of your mother, from a different timeline, circa the twenty fifth century. I guess she visited to catch this." You look at the twenty-eighth feather you hold in your hand.

Ryouko nods. "Yes, she's the moon princess there."

"No," you explain. "She gave me the title."

"… Really," says Ryouko, a little surprised.

"Maybe we should set up the house as some kind of a dimensional embassy," ponders Hitomi.

Madoka looks confused again for a moment, then lets a giggle escape.

"Ah — I'm sorry," she apologizes, a moment later. "You all looked so serious just now."

"Well, I guess it does sound kind of silly," you admit.

"… Well then!" says Nanami, shaking her head, and looking at the array of feathers. "Hey, who wants to bet Kyuubey is going to flip out?"



> aaaaaand back! just in time
> and for reference, Kyuubey is going to triple flip out



Please select plans for your new artifacts: a bunch of Simona feathers, another ribbon (Ryouko is holding), a Sakura feather, and a grief seed without any grief (transparent). We're in a brave new world here and anything can happen so some of these ideas are terrible but I'm sure you can think of something.

[][Simona feathers] (write in goals and handling procedures)
[][Simona feathers] Send Simona feathers back with Princess Ryouko
[][Simona feathers] Distribute Simona feathers to all magical girls
[][Simona feathers] Distribute Simona feathers to the entire gang
[][Simona feathers] Return a single Simona feather to Kyuubey and hide the rest
[][Simona feathers] Scheme to clone another Simona body for them
[][Simona feathers] Put all the feathers into Clarisse for safekeeping
[][Simona feathers] Have Tomoyo make the feathers into a fine ballet costume.

[][Sakura feather] Leave it inside Clarisse for now


There's a real chance ribbon-based timestop was tied to Abraxas having one too. Hint hint hint.
[][Ribbon] Carry both ribbons yourself
[][Ribbon] Give Homura one ribbon, tell her to handle it gingerly
[][Ribbon] Give a ribbon to (write-in)
[][Ribbon] Tie up the Simona feathers with the ribbon

Princess Ryouko is probably going to want to return before too very long.
Anything you want to say before she goes? Stop her? Entertain her further? Edit her? Quarantine her?

[][Princess] (write in)

it wouldn't be CQ without micromanagement planning. Supply urgent plans for Nextdoot and others for Later. (Be aware that if you oversubscribe next door instead of deciding what plans to do Later, I will decide for you.)

[][Nextdoot] Please write in and name a plan
-[] Let yourself be fluffed by Kyouko
--[] Contemplate soul gems and feathers
--[] Talk with Kyouko:
---[] (write in topics)
---[] Be romantic, offer her the moon
-[] Speak with Papa about everything
-[] Ask Machina for pictures of Mami kissing Oriko
-[] Use feathers to teleport to Salem, and return them to (Governance) Simona
-[] Use ribbon to send Hitomi into the past
--[] send the Sakura feather back with her
--[] send the Sakura feather back with Yukari-san
-[] Send yourself into the past instead
--[] bring the Sakura feather
--[] leave the Sakura feather for pickup
--[] Talk to (Star Empire) Simona in the past
-[] Plot to avoid school
-[] Plot to become a ballerina
-[] DO NOT go mad with power

[][Later]
-[] (Same stuff)

Any old plans we've dropped? Can put them back if you like.
 
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... We are successfully booping Kyuuby somehow.

Anyway, if I read that right we basically kind of did the right thing but went at it backwards? Instead of trying to use the Feather we were supposed to let the Feather flow into us so it could use us/we could channel it's magic through us and use our magic?

And then we boop'd her Grief Seed and did... something to it. It felt like we did that kinda right, but kinda wrong. I think we introduced hope into something that is fundamentally not able to have hope anymore and/or is purposefully blocking the soul trapped within it's cage from getting hope and so we kinda ended up breaking the cage and freeing the soul and got a rain of Homucifier feathers for some reason from doing that?

Shouldn't we also have her Ribbon now too or was that only existing in a state of paradox so it popped when she did?

... Are we supposed to Hope boop Soul Gems too now? That seems like a thing that might work, but I'm worried about the whole... dying from their souls just floating off thing. We do know what happens when soul gems are broken conventionally, so it'd be more like we want to reforge them at this point I would think.
 
... Are we supposed to Hope boop Soul Gems too now? That seems like a thing that might work, but I'm worried about the whole... dying from their souls just floating off thing.

That's a real risk, yes. A girl's feelings can easily run away from her, especially if you give them whole universes to fly. You will notice the feathers gathered around Ryouko — otherwise you may have lost even more.

Are you supposed to do this to a gem?
Well … I wouldn't do it lightly. Did you want to vote for pondering?

Anyway, if I read that right we basically kind of did the right thing but went at it backwards? Instead of trying to use the Feather we were supposed to let the Feather flow into us so it could use us/we could channel it's magic through us and use our magic?
I wouldn't put it that way? You asked for a magical artifact to help you. It's a soul, though. Of course it has some of its own agency.

Did you want it out of you? The wings are so fluffy though … also the streaky hair is way too cool to lose ;)

Shouldn't we also have her Ribbon now too?
All yours.
 
I wouldn't put it that way? You asked for a magical artifact to help you. It's a soul, though. Of course it has some of its own agency.

Did you want it out of you? The wings are so fluffy though … also the streaky hair is way too cool to lose ;)
I mean I'm fine with it if Sakura is. It seems like one of those things where it might be hard to tell where she's more comfortable? Like is she okay being a (unaware?) fragment of a soul? Is she melding into our soul and losing her identity? Is she orbiting our soul and finding it comfy? Like I'm fine with whatever really.

Also I didn't even think she was aware enough to be able to make choices. I mean, kind of a really small shattered off fragment of a soul. Doesn't exactly seem conducive to being able to make decisions. Or be sane.

Well … I wouldn't do it lightly. Did you want to vote for pondering?
... I suppose if we ponder with a Ribbon or two in hand we might get some answers, but that otherwise seems like something we wouldn't have any idea about because we don't have anything to base any speculation off of.

I can feel my SV mad-scientist want to find a random MG to hope boop just to see what happens, but I can feel Sakura eyeing me disappointedly from over here. Damn girl, it's just a small part, I wasn't actually going to suggest it.
 
I'm not even going to try to compose a full vote tonight, it would arguably take hours considering how complex the vote is, so just going to make the most important part of the vote for now:

[X][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu
-[X] Plot to become a ballerina

Overall really good updoot. <3 I'm glad we managed to swing the votes at the last minute to wake Ryouko up since she was instrumental to the resolution.

My only complaint is that Clarisse didn't speak it aloud when she used "Star healing, escalation! Refresh!" =P
 
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Out of curiosity: are all twenty-eight of Simona's feathers the same general size and shape, or are they a mix of primary and secondaries?

This is related to a second concern, which is whether souls are passerines, flamingos, ostriches, or none of the above. I'm sure we can all agree this is the most pressing question raised by the update.
 
Out of curiosity: are all twenty-eight of Simona's feathers the same general size and shape, or are they a mix of primary and secondaries?

This is related to a second concern, which is whether souls are passerines, flamingos, ostriches, or none of the above. I'm sure we can all agree this is the most pressing question raised by the update.
Definitely a mix.
Meguca are an ugly type of waterfowl. you know you raise a good point, but you can't be sure all meguca souls are the same kind of bird.
 
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Seriously, what the flip just happened?

[:V][Simona feathers] Have Tomoyo make the feathers into a fine ballet costume.
[:V][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu Plus Moon
-[:V] Let yourself be fluffed by Kyouko
--[:V] Talk with Kyouko:
---[:V] Be romantic, offer her the moon
-[:V] Plot to become a ballerina
-[:V] DO go mad with power
I don't think we have enough of an idea to actually make a decision.

[X][Sakura feather] Attempt to manifest Sakura in a form where she can communicate and ask her what she thinks about this timey-wimey ball and what abilities we should expect from the feathers.

Since I would like to pursue what I shall dub "Digital Deity" (which will probably be a plan name if I can think of a process):
[X][Simona feathers] Put all the feathers into Clarisse for safekeeping
Quick question, what does putting the feathers into Clarisse mean? Absorbing them into our soul(s)?

[X][Princess] Ask if her ability lets us use it even when not in the same dimension
-[X] If not, do the two ribbons together change anything?
[X][Ribbon] Experiment a little.
-[X] See if holding both does anything differently from just one
--[X] If not, try giving one to Ryouko

We have so much power at our fingertips and no idea how any of it works. We have 28/32 Simona feathers, Simona's empty grief seed, one paradoxed Sakura feather, both Madoka ribbons, (unpowered) Madoka herself, Princess Ryouko, Non-princess Ryouko, Homura (Gov!Ryouko and PreWraith!Homura are respectively masters of space and time, and we can probably grab Asami: master of gravity if we really wanted to), the narrator, alternate Clarisse, and Madokami-levels of potential. Did I forget anything or anyone? We probably have enough power at our disposal to replicate Madoka's feat multiple times over! What the frick are we supposed to do with all of it‽
[EDIT] Oh ya, I forgot we also have Gretchen in our contacts.
Adhoc vote count started by Boomshroom on May 20, 2019 at 12:34 AM, finished with 8 posts and 2 votes.

  • [X][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu
    -[X] Plot to become a ballerina
    [X][Sakura feather] Attempt to manifest Sakura in a form where she can communicate and ask her what she thinks about this timey-wimey ball and what abilities we should expect from the feathers.
    [X][Simona feathers] Put all the feathers into Clarisse for safekeeping
    [X][Princess] Ask if her ability lets us use it even when not in the same dimension
    -[X] If not, do the two ribbons together change anything?
    [X][Ribbon] Experiment a little.
    -[X] See if holding both does anything differently from just one
    --[X] If not, try giving one to Ryouko
 
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Darn. There goes the ostrich theory. A shame, since I don't have anything else to explain the 32 thing.

... actually I suppose the feathers being, well, conventionally feather-y instead of enormous and fluffy sort of killed the ostrich theory before I even asked.
I mean I'm fine with it if Sakura is. It seems like one of those things where it might be hard to tell where she's more comfortable? Like is she okay being a (unaware?) fragment of a soul? Is she melding into our soul and losing her identity? Is she orbiting our soul and finding it comfy? Like I'm fine with whatever really.

Also I didn't even think she was aware enough to be able to make choices. I mean, kind of a really small shattered off fragment of a soul. Doesn't exactly seem conducive to being able to make decisions. Or be sane.
We did have an entire conversation with the Sakura-feather inside us here, wherein she seemed to be ... generally person-ish, basically okay, not noticeably being subsumed, and capable of making value judgments in response to new information.

My working theory, in light of this, is that souls are not merely birds, but holographic birds: that the whole is contained within the part; and that by looking at a feather in the right light, you could see the bird it came from.

...there's a synergy there with fix-everything magic; but frankly I'm afraid to voice it because I'd like to take a step back from further reckless experimentation with soul magic for the rest of the day, yes please and thank.
 
---[:V] Be romantic, offer her the moon
Why don't you kiss her instead of talking her to death?

! What the frick are we supposed to do with all of it‽
- The same thing we do every night, Pinky
- Bring the world revolution? Pay the bill for exciting paradoxes?
- srsly though, you could.... fight entropy

Quick question, what does putting the feathers into Clarisse mean? Absorbing them into our soul(s)?
They're discrete enough you shouldn't expect them to really be absorbed per se. Though, you might want to be careful, lest you find yourself outnumbered, or less-fluffy.

[X][Princess] Ask if her ability lets us use it even when not in the same dimension
Use what how now?

[X][Sakura feather] Attempt to manifest Sakura in a form where she can communicate and ask her what she thinks about this timey-wimey ball and what abilities we should expect from the feathers.

[x][Sakura feather] Turn off the lights and talk to yourself in the mirror
it's like gollum but cuter

... actually I suppose the feathers being, well, conventionally feather-y instead of enormous and fluffy sort of killed the ostrich theory before I even asked.
They're bigger than ostrich feathers, but more flighty and less ostrichy.

Don't get me started on the official Tsubasa Chronicle feather shape, though

that thing is so fake, what the deal

...there's a synergy there with fix-everything magic; but frankly I'm afraid to voice it because I'd like to take a step back from further reckless experimentation with soul magic for the rest of the day, yes please and thank.
Now I'm curious. :)
 
you can also see a pink streak in your hair.

Where is the pink coming from?

In case it's not obvious from me nuzzling your fluffy little white wings, the important thing is me nuzzling those fluffy little white wings.

Why does people, or tomoyo in particular, nuzzeling our wings matter? What does it do except make us feel?

So, for what to do...

First, Simona's feathers are her soul. They are black but with white edges representing the hope we are giving her that Ryouko won't die. I don't think putting them in us is a good idea though, since the feather will impact what we do very dramatically with almost all of her soul present. We should however make a new body for her, since we know that is possible thanks to MSY research.

Second, we can just leave the Sakura feather within us. We need to find this feather again at some point to send back in time, since this feather isn't the one we can move. If wee sent this one back, then the feather would get suck in a bootstrap paradox instead of us just being silly with time. Is this the same feather that we saw in the temple in the star empire?

Third, the ribbon has a few people it would make sense to give it to. Ryouko can be connected to it via our connection with her already, so it would be best held by Kyouko or Nanami. Kyouko being a melee fighter might make her the better option so she has more freedom of movement?

Fourth, for Ryouko, I don't think there is much to say. Just final reminders that she needs to remember the incubators will be using her to get at everyone's magic, but do that via our internal link. Other then that she knows what shes going to aim for, so just say goodbye.

Finally, what to do now! First we should let Kyouko fluff us, we just de-witched a girl and need to relax. We don't need to deal with taking the feather back yet since we need to obtain a copy to send back to keep things consistent. Therefore we should probably catch up with Machina, Mami and Oriko, then we can leave our bedroom at last! Finally meet Kirika in person as well! We can become a ballerina latter.

[X][Simona feathers] Scheme to clone another Simona body for them
[X][Sakura feather] Leave it inside Clarisse for now
-[X] Hide the wings once we leave the room
[X][Ribbon] Give a ribbon to Kyouko
[X][Princess] Remind her that everyone is trying to use her for their own gains and then bid her farewell.
[X][Nextdoot] Plan fluff
-[X] Let yourself be fluffed by Kyouko
-[X] Contact Machina, fill her in and then ask what Mami and Oriko have been up to.
-[X] Plot to become a ballerina

[X][Later]
-[X] Speak with Yuma and Oriko about healing someone from soul feathers.
 
Where is the pink coming from?
The new feather.

Why does [Tomoyo nuzzling our wings] matter? What does it do except make us feel?
I don't think you understand: THEY'RE SO SOFT OMG

*dies of softness*

I don't think putting them in us is a good idea though, since the feather will impact what we do very dramatically with almost all of her soul present.
Right... at a minimum this would seriously undermine the do not make out with Ryouko directive

We need to find this feather again at some point to send back in time, since this feather isn't the one we can move.
Huh? I'm a little confused.

Is this the same feather that we saw in the temple in the star empire?
No. That one was from a princess in a far-off dimension.

Third, the ribbon has a few people it would make sense to give it to. Ryouko can be connected to it via our connection with her already, so it would be best held by Kyouko or Nanami. Kyouko being a melee fighter might make her the better option so she has more freedom of movement?
I've been trying to hint at you that the ribbon might not have intrinsic anti-timestop, that its pair was simply on a timestop-immune witch...

We don't need to deal with taking the feather back yet since we need to obtain a copy to send back to keep things consistent.
I'm not sure what this consistency looks like, maybe spell it out? Construct diagrams?
 
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Huh? I'm a little confused.
I'm not sure what this consistency looks like, maybe spell it out? Construct diagrams?

I'm just trying to rap my head around where the feather is from, and I might of gotten it wrong. So the feather is Sakura's, which tomoyo snuck away somehow and put in the hairpin. Now we have it we need to eventually return it so Kyubey has the full set latter to be stolen from them? Either way, we have no need to rush and return the feather due to time travel being involved.

I've been trying to hint at you that the ribbon might not have intrinsic anti-timestop, that its pair was simply on a timestop-immune witch...

Ok, so no more timestop immunity unless homura has the ribbon so I'll need to change that part of the vote. But where did the other ribbon come from? If ribbons are paired, then Abraxas's ribbon must be from the simulation world...right? Does mean Homura might be the best option for the ribbon for power sharing, but how will that impact her given what the ribbon gets up to?
 
I'm just trying to rap
coobie you know what time it is

aww hell yeah let's go

Now we have it we need to eventually return it so Kyubey has the full set latter to be stolen from them?
Hmm. You seem to be envisioning a scene in which Kyuubey is presented with 32 bare feathers from Sakura — perhaps by Sakura, perhaps by a friend — and then these feathers are subsequently stolen. At this point, I'm comfortable indicating this is not how it happens. Those feathers aren't a gift someone entrusted to him after they disassembled Sakura's soul.

They're his by contract.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

but how will [a ribbon] impact [Homura] given what the ribbon gets up to?

uhh, well, she'll be so much cooler!!
 
a serious question for anyone who will provide a serious answer;
what did our hope boop do?
did the feather burst happen because we cracked a grief seed open and broke her out of her shell?
or would a similar thing happen if we tried it on a soul that was not encased?

If I had to guess, I would say that we filled the seed with hope, and it could not cope with the pressure of this. But there may be more probable alternatives, and we could do with a good understanding of what we did if we're going to make informed decisions about what we will do
 
ERRATA: Fixed a line where I wrote a "says Asami" instead of "says Simona". Hopefully it was obvious and no one is badly confused.
 
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Where is the pink coming from?

Clearly it's because we've officially begun our career as a magical girl protagonist (in the broader sense rather than the Incubator sense), and it's starting to effect our hair.

A few more feathers and our whole hair will be pink. If we get the whole set our hair will surely go full anime.



It is our destiny. ❤
 
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Clearly it's because we've officially begun our career as a magical girl protagonist (in the broader sense rather than the Incubator sense), and it's starting to effect our hair.

A few more feathers and our whole hair will be pink. If we get the whole set our hair will surely go full anime.



It is our destiny. ❤
I disagree a bit about final result.
 
By the way does anyone know what Abnegator means in this context?

I disagree a bit about final result.

Is that Evil Cure Blossom fanart? =O

Anyway my vote now that I have time:

[X][Simona feathers] Distribute Simona feathers to all magical girls (including Clarisse) for now for safekeeping until we decide what to do with them
-[x]Remind them not to mention or hand over the feathers to Kyubey
-[x]Ask Nanami about the "clone" option to see how resource/time-intensive that would be.

[X][Sakura feather] Leave it inside Clarisse for now

[X][Ribbon] Give Homura one ribbon, tell her to handle it gingerly.
-[X]Contingency: If this results in G!Homura hijacking her body, ask her for info and discuss with her how to fix the Governance timeline.

[X][Princess]Thank her for saving our lives and offer our friendship.
-[x]Ask if she has any advice on how to use feather magic since it apparently vaguely resembles her magic
-[x[Ask her if she has any advice on what to do with Simona's feathers.
-[x]Wish her good luck on fixing things in the Star Empire, and let her know we're happy to be of assistance if she needs it.

[X][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu
-[X] Let yourself be fluffed by Kyouko
--[X] Contemplate soul gems and feathers
--[X] Talk with Kyouko:
---[X] Reassure her that just because our culture supports consensual polyamory doesn't mean we'll nonconsensually cheat on her.
-[X] Plot to become a ballerina
--[X] Ask Hitomi about watching one of her lessons
-[x] Speak with Papa briefly about everything
--[x] Gloss over the parts where we flagrantly violated the law
-[X] DO NOT go mad with power
Adhoc vote count started by AceJade on May 21, 2019 at 6:17 PM, finished with 25 posts and 4 votes.

  • [X][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu
    -[X] Let yourself be fluffed by Kyouko
    --[X] Contemplate soul gems and feathers
    --[X] Talk with Kyouko:
    ---[X] Reassure her that just because our culture supports consensual polyamory doesn't mean we'll nonconsensually cheat on her.
    -[X] Plot to become a ballerina
    --[X] Maybe see if Hitomi or anyone else is interested in starting/joining a ballet club together once school resumes
    -[x] Speak with Papa briefly about everything
    --[x] Gloss over the parts where we flagrantly violated the law
    -[X] DO NOT go mad with power
    [X][Sakura feather] Attempt to manifest Sakura in a form where she can communicate and ask her what she thinks about this timey-wimey ball and what abilities we should expect from the feathers.
    [X][Simona feathers] Put all the feathers into Clarisse for safekeeping
    [X][Princess] Ask if her ability lets us use it even when not in the same dimension
    -[X] If not, do the two ribbons together change anything?
    [X][Ribbon] Experiment a little.
    -[X] See if holding both does anything differently from just one
    --[X] If not, try giving one to Ryouko
    [x][Sakura feather] Turn off the lights and talk to yourself in the mirror
    [X][Sakura feather] Leave it inside Clarisse for now
    -[X] Hide the wings once we leave the room
    [X][Simona feathers] Distribute Simona feathers to all magical girls (including Clarisse) for now for safekeeping until we decide what to do with them
    -[x]Remind them not to mention or hand over the feathers to Kyubey
    -[x]Ask Nanami about the "clone" option to see how resource/time-intensive that would be.
    [X][Ribbon] Give Homura one ribbon, tell her to handle it gingerly.
    -[X]Contingency: If this results in G!Homura hijacking her body, ask her for info and discuss with her how to fix the Governance timeline.
    [X][Princess]Thank her for saving our lives and offer our friendship.
    -[x]Ask if she has any advice on how to use feather magic since it apparently vaguely resembles her magic
    -[x]Wish her good luck on fixing things in the Star Empire, and let her know we're happy to be of assistance if she needs it.
    [X][Simona feathers] Scheme to clone another Simona body for them
    -[X] Distribute Simona feathers to all magical girls and us until then
    [X][Ribbon] Give Homura one ribbon, tell her to handle it gingerly.
    -[X]Contingency: If this results in G!Homura hijacking her body, ask her for info and discuss with her how to fix the Governance timeline.
    -[X] Contingency: Warn homura of all of the things we have experienced while we have had a ribbon.
    [X][Princess]Thank her for saving our lives and offer our friendship.
    -[x]Wish her good luck on fixing things in the Star Empire, and let her know we're happy to be of assistance if she needs it.
    [X][Later]
    -[X] Contact Machina, fill her in and then ask what Mami and Oriko have been up to.
    -[X] Speak with Nanami, Yuma and Oriko about healing someone from soul feathers.
 
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Abnegation is the act of renouncing or rejecting something. Tomoyo called us "Clarisse the Abnegator" after we declined to make a contract.

actually it was a Kyouko thing most proximately

In that vein of caution, perhaps, the first thing you will do with your access to Kyouko is set it aside. This is no doubt for the best, and you are getting quite good at this sort of thing. We shall call you Clarisse the Abnegator. You'll find out about it later; it will be fun.

Maybe gloss over the parts where we flagrantly violated the law
"Papa, we've been plotting high treason against the Star Empress..."

I assumed it was this deep thing where ryoko's love interests were switching places.
[✗] Ribbon Simona: hispanic Asami would be cute too
 
"Papa, we've been plotting high treason against the Star Empress..."

No were not, we are going to care and love for the star empress! We should visit her and give her hugs at some point...

[][Simona feathers] Put all the feathers into Clarisse for safekeeping for now
-[]Ask Nanami about the "clone" option to see how resource/time-intensive that would be.

I don't think this is a good idea, for one it might make our wings less fluffy, but also being 28 parts despairing Simona vs 32 parts Clarisse isn't going to be good for our health. And as Tomoyo said, it may go against the do not make out with Ryouko directive. It would be better to give our the feathers to the magical girls for safe keeping. Prevents people getting overwhelmed by the feathers while still being looked after.

[X][Ribbon] Give Homura one ribbon, tell her to handle it gingerly.
-[X]Contingency: If this results in G!Homura hijacking her body, ask her for info and discuss with her how to fix the Governance timeline.

I think this is going to be the best option, being able to share timestop is too great a power to give up. I would like to however make some edits to the contingency. That one is good but there are other things that could happen.

-[x]Ask if she has any advice on how to use feather magic since it apparently vaguely resembles her magic

Did I miss something? I though that the star magic is different to Ryoukos?

[X][Princess]Thank her for saving our lives and offer our friendship.
-[x]Ask if she has any advice on how to use feather magic since it apparently vaguely resembles her magic
-[x[Ask her if she has any advice on what to do with Simona's feathers.
-[x]Wish her good luck on fixing things in the Star Empire, and let her know we're happy to be of assistance if she needs it.

I like the first and last line of this better then my vote, the rest of it I think isn't the best sort of thing to ask, as I said above.

[X][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu

I like this, I'll take it and make minor edits. I'll make sure to put things on the latter pile though.

[X][Simona feathers] Scheme to clone another Simona body for them
-[X] Distribute Simona feathers to all magical girls and us until then

[X][Sakura feather] Leave it inside Clarisse for now
-[X] Hide the wings once we leave the room

[X][Ribbon] Give Homura one ribbon, tell her to handle it gingerly.
-[X] Contingency: If this results in G!Homura hijacking her body, ask her for info and discuss with her how to fix the Governance timeline.
-[X] Contingency: Warn homura of all of the things we have experienced while we have had a ribbon.

[X][Princess]Thank her for saving our lives and offer our friendship.
-[x]Wish her good luck on fixing things in the Star Empire, and let her know we're happy to be of assistance if she needs it.

[X][Nextdoot] Plan Princess Tutu
-[X] Let yourself be fluffed by Kyouko
--[X] Contemplate soul gems and feathers
--[X] Talk with Kyouko:
---[X] Reassure her that just because our culture supports consensual polyamory doesn't mean we'll nonconsensually cheat on her.
-[X] Plot to become a ballerina
--[X] Maybe see if Hitomi or anyone else is interested in starting/joining a ballet club together once school resumes
-[x] Speak with Papa briefly about everything
--[x] Gloss over the parts where we flagrantly violated the law
-[X] DO NOT go mad with power

[X][Later]
-[X] Contact Machina, fill her in and then ask what Mami and Oriko have been up to.
-[X] Speak with Nanami, Yuma and Oriko about healing someone from soul feathers.
 
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I don't think this is a good idea, for one it might make our wings less fluffy, but also being 28 parts despairing Simona vs 32 parts Clarisse isn't going to be good for our health. And as Tomoyo said, it may go against the do not make out with Ryouko directive.
[✗] Have Nanami magick up a spare v2 taccomp chassis in someone, put all the feathers in that

Did I miss something? I though that the star magic is different to Ryoukos?
The feathery magic is different from Ryouko's, but there are some similarities between Ryouko's means of using others' magic, and using others' magic from soul shards directly

-[X] Plot to become a ballerina
Any specific rationale here from you or @AceJade?
 
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