First it would make more sense for the training facility to be on Asgard and for them to than do cross training on Avernus which happens now. Second we can still get psyker titans it will just take longer and be harder.
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That sucks I still see the economy boosts worth it given all the advantages having a lot more money and resources can do since we always have a problem with that.
Also I could have sworn we could still have psy-knights just not regular knights
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Psy Knights would really help with dealing with the wildlife so reduced military casualties would be a nice bonus. Plus the deathworlder boost along with all the others to our military on top of the psy knights bonus? Yes please.
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Psy-Titans are very different from Psy-Knights. We do not have the equipment to make Titans because they are not piloted by psykers they are powered by them and piloted by blanks which we don't have one strong enough for that. As for the training all the training will be done on Asgard if we don't have our own set up and the Psy-Knight will belong to Asgard and the Aesir not to us.
We are already in the middle of a massive income boost the 10% is just extra to that. And no the Psy-Knights go to Asgard and the Aesir unless we burn more political capital to try and get them placed under our command which is unlikely to work and turn the Lord-Marshal fully against us.
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I'm going to check back on some earlier posts to be sure
Yeah it does not say anywhere that the Aesir will have psy titans instead of us and with the Governor of Asgard hating all things new I reallly can't see that happening. @Adventwolf you have a cite for that?
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Here is Durin's answer we could fight it but it is unlikely we would win the argument and it would just hurt our relations with the Aesir and The Lord-Marshal who while on the conservative side does like and respect us.
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Weird assertion to make, tbh. I doubt Asgard has the number of delta+ Psykers to even field a proper choir, let alone more than a handful of psy-Knights. The only ones who could conceivably field a good amount of psy knights are us and maybe Midgard.
That's still the trust. Rotbart is generally put in charge of the trust military. They are basically ours anyways.
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Just posted it and he does not hate all new things. He would be all up for a new type of Knight. That is why during the conference vote I kept bringing it up that we should tell him we would push for getting all the Knights if he supported us but no one listened to me.
Except that was specifically if they were the ones to train them. Which, might not be the case. There was also no mention on how the Lord-Marshal thinks of them, or how hard it would be to negotiate it. At least in that specific quote.
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We send them the psykers they train them and they are added to the Aesir forces not to us. You can see where I am getting this from since Durin is the one who answered that question.
We are not in charge of the Trust military we specify choose not to take that position. We can not order the forces of the other worlds unless they are put under our command during a war. We can't use them to fight on Avernus unless something like the post First Daemonic Incrusion is going on.
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I checked over it the psy-knights would only be a part of asgards forces if they were the ones to train them and it would require them to negotiate with us for that to happen. come to think of it it wouldn't make sense for us to send them our potential psy-knights for training with them anyway since we wouldn't benefit from it at all if we wouldn't even get to keep them.
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It will be if we don't have Sigmund to do the training he is how we get the ability to train them on Avernus or else they go to Asgard for training and take even longer to train and longer to match the skills if they were trained on Avernus.
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We can teach them without Asgard it will just take a lot longer and is more difficult at first. at least from what I can tell reading over Durins answer to a bunch of questions ever since it was brought up.
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So you are saying we should dein the Trust from a powerful asset they know we have because the Psi-Throne was a very open tech we got? And all because we are not the ones in control of them that is a disaster politically waiting to happen. The negotiations that will favor the Knights being placed under Asgard control because they would then be the place that the only experience with Knights and their training.
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No but it isn't particularly fair to us giving away our psykers to them for free and not get anything out of it at least when we sell them knights they actually buy them and give us something in return I wouldn't even mind them keeping some of the psy-knights as long as we get some of them too. otherwise they would just be demanding free shit. Another example is we give them a bunch of our troops to use and they help foot the bill on upkeep
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No, we can not the longer training time and the difficulty is because we send them to Asgard to train them instead of training them during the time they are getting ready for their trials. We have no infrastructure or the knowledge to train them that is what Sigmund and his Knights bring.
This is not about being fair this is about the survival of the Trust as a whole. And are you really saying that them spending decades training and teaching these Psykers how to be a knight and all the other training they get means they are not doing the work for it? We send our psykers out all the time both to fight and to hunt down other psykers. But just so we can clear this up.
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1. If we do not get Sigmund and his Knights will the training for Psy-Knights be done on Avernus or on Asgard since they are the ones with all the requirements needed to train Knights?
2. How much would it take to have Asgard train the Psy-Knights then to give them up to us instead of adding them to their own forces?
3. What kind of backlash would that create with the Aesir in general and the Lord-Marshal in particular?
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Remember vote Sigmund for Mecha vs Kaiju fights!
Or Jaeger vs Kaiju
Or Jaeger vs Kaiju
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Honestly it's better for Durin to clear this up first and I see what you mean but were also constantly struggling against the wildlife and chaos psykers thats why I said I wouldn't mind them keeping some of them but just giving away our strong psykers will hurt us as well which will make things more difficult for the trust as well since we supply a lot of elite troops.
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Longtime lurker reporting in, with his first ever vote in a Quest. (Love this one, by the way)
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I would also like our Daughter to marry someone who she already has a good relationship with so they don't have to go through the long getting to know you phase so we can get some damn grandchildren and spare heirs.
But 95 billion thrones a turn that just sounds amazing 95 billion thrones a turn, come on say it with me 95 billion thrones.
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And you don't see the advantage of having them on our planet already to deal with all that crap?