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Wasn't it 85 billion don't go changing the numbers to make it seem better. Nurgle you are not the God of Lies that is Bird Brain.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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But that doesn't get me my psychic mecha taking on kaiju. Plus I want one of our Heroic psykers piloting one and bodyslamming a bloodthirster or something like that. And just imagine the next time we get attacked by angyls or daemons we will have a lot more giant robots to take them on, and these ones will be amplifying our psykers... which with tech bane, null field and some other stuff can be very scary indeed.
Your right it is 85 billion thrones and I should go to sleep just got off work a couple hours ago.
We can still do that it will just take more time and we will have to do some politicking with Asgard and the high council. But still 85 billion thrones.
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Well with sigurd we get psy-knights trained sooner but without him as far as I know we still get them but with him we also get regular knights which is something we otherwise would never have. with Alfonse we get a 10% throne boost we would never have along with economy actions we would probably never have along with the other benefits of him being a rogue trader and stronger ties with dragons nest.
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Fairly sure we can do that with some metal trades next time after we get the boost to material income from the tech implementations. Though once again the biggest thing has been AM and EM income, everything else we have had more work arounds.
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No they will go to Asgard since they are the ones putting in the work training the psykers to fight with Knights. We would only get them when they are placed under our command during a war aside from that they are not ours to command. Trying to take them from Asgard after we sent them to be trained for decades is going to cost us because at this point it is starting to be Avenus is taking advantage of the other Trust worlds just to improve its own standing. If we don't get Sigmund then the Aesir keep the Psy-Knights they may be our blood-brothers but rejecting their Hero, having them train a new type of Knight, then taking those Knights from them after that is going to sour relations with them.
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Thats assuming we have asgard train them though we can figure out how to train psy-knights ourselves after all and if we can't have them at all if we send them to asgard then the opposite becomes true with Avernus being taken advantage of by Asgard. Its true that in that scenario they would train our psy-knights and in that case would have some say but they wouldn't have psy-knights at all if it weren't for us supplying them the psyker and psy-knights to begin with so recieving at least some form of help in return would be something we could negotiate.
Edit: meant asgard not the trust. I guess its kind of a moot point though since sigurd is likely to win at this point.
Edit: meant asgard not the trust. I guess its kind of a moot point though since sigurd is likely to win at this point.
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How are we going to train them? We don't have the knowledge, experience, the equipment, or the personnel. It will be very difficult to sell the High Council on us wasting even more time trying to figure it out on our own. If you have a winning argument that could convince them to let the planet that has never trained Knights try and make a new version of them instead of the ancient Knight world that has been training Knights since the DAoT go ahead and let us hear it. If not then they will be going to Asgard for the training because without Sigmund (not Sigurd that was the old Lord-Marshal) that is the fastest and most efficient way to try and get them ready for the next war.
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well we at least have the knowledge and equipment and as for argument these are psy-knights we have the most experience in the trust training psykers who would be the ones piloting the psy knights and would need the most work learning how to use their abilities probably more than the work needed to learn how to pilot a knight given the consequences for failing as a psyker.
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The thing is that I can see the utility of the Rogue Trader, but hell, I personally prefer getting something unique like Knights, that a mere increase in our income. Especially now that once we got the upgrades up and running we are going o be overflowing in thrones.
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That would be before we blow all our new income in less than ten turns and get right back where we started the boost would only be good in the short term after that we have a lot of stuff we would need money for and that will quickly overtake what our new income would be.
We are still going to get psyker knights it will just take longer and we will have to do some negations with Asgard and the high council.
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The Psyker would already have passed their trials once they are sent off to train as Psy-Knights. They can not leave the planet and enter the warp before that. The Psy-Knight
is about learning to fight with the Knight and how to use it fully. The Knights of Asgard have faced plenty of Psychic foes before they can teach the Psy_knights how to fight it and how to use it in combat.
Also just edit your posts into one. multiposting like that is not allowed.
I have already posted why trying to do this is a bad idea. If we don't take Sigmund the Psy-Knights will stay with the Aesir.
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I was I think you got me confused for fanhunter totally different person
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Whoops damn you two and your pictureless number ending names.
Edit: your names are even similar to eachother.
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Yeah I was confused at first too our names are really similiar at first glance.Whoops damn you two and your pictureless number ending names.
Sir LagsAlot
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[X] Marry Alfons Uberti of the Uberti Dynasty- best admin by far, close ties with Uberti Rogue Trader Dynasty of Dragon's Nest, political ties with Dragon's Nest.
I'm just here for the money.
I'm just here for the money.
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And what? I am voting purely out of the Cool Factor that is the creation of Avernite Knights, I value that far more than an increase in our income and trade deals.
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But yeah we don't have the equipment or knowledge needed to train them as knights. We can train them as battle psykers but that is different from a Psy-Knight. As for Equipment that is more than just the Knight itself there is an entire infrastructure need to train a knight which we do not have. Sigmund brings it along with him and if he isn't here we are not going to go and try and build it ourselves and send them off to Asgard and the Aesir instead.
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Fair enough either way I'm fine with either sig or alfons getting picked I would debate a bit more but its getting late.
Shard
One and Many
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Hmm
Sigmund
Pros:
*Knights on Avernus.
*Faster Psy-Knights, Psy-Knights based on Avernus.
*Best 'On Avernus' survivability. (Highest Combat, Highest Piety)
*Rotbart family acquires the desirable Knight-gene. Eugenics go.
>Military/Genetics option
Uberti
Pros:
*$$$$$$$$$ (THRONES)
*$$$$$$$$$ (Admin Cost saving)
*Rogue Trader Ties
*Dragon's Nest ties
>Economy/Diplomacy option
Sigmund
Pros:
*Knights on Avernus.
*Faster Psy-Knights, Psy-Knights based on Avernus.
*Best 'On Avernus' survivability. (Highest Combat, Highest Piety)
*Rotbart family acquires the desirable Knight-gene. Eugenics go.
>Military/Genetics option
Uberti
Pros:
*$$$$$$$$$ (THRONES)
*$$$$$$$$$ (Admin Cost saving)
*Rogue Trader Ties
*Dragon's Nest ties
>Economy/Diplomacy option
Shard
One and Many
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Getting Knight-Titan genes is definitely eugenics.