[HALP] me! (WORM quest)

Ideas to improve Taylor SAN:

• Make Taylor centered towards an objective. For example telling (and manging to convince) her in dreams that she will get powers in X time, so she has to start researching Parahumans, getting in Shape, dreaming (we could provide combat training when she dreams), designing powers she would like, this kind of thing. The idea is basically to have something Taylor can focus her attention to escape the shit that her live is.
• Get her a friend, Lilac, that is, connecting the two in dreams but, without making them realize it's a dream until they wake up, after a time, make them met in real life.
• Get her in contact with Veronica so she sees her emotions and decides to help her (pushing on our end Taylor to want to get helped and Vee to want to help).
• Try to see if Jessica Yamada has a Corona Pollentia, if she has, get her Shard to make Taylor and her share dreams, this way she should recive the therapy she so much needs.
• The last one but with Veronica instead of Jessica, then, after some time, make Vee met Taylor in real life so she looks into her problems and ends the bullying (Before this push Sophia in to making her gang so she becomes a villain instead of getting sent to the Juvie)
• Push Shift to nudge Sophia so she, unwittingly, pushes Emma down the stairs, and then make it so she doesn't she the point in bullying someone as weak as Taylor, thus ending the bullying.
• Make Taylor believe she already has a power, us, that give her answers to questions in her dreams, and lets her manipulate them (dreams with time dilatation to get experience doing things).
• Tell Twin to nudge Coil in to solving Taylor problems to improve his reputation.
• Do not try to make Sophia unninterested in Taylor without removing Emma first, this could make her more... creative so Sophia regains the interest.
• Call Zion for help. He knows better.

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• Contact Lung and tell his Shard to nudge him in to destroying Winsllow one night. This solves not only the bullying at school but left Taylor with a lot more of time to prepare to be a hero, at least for a time. Plus chances to get rellocated to Arcadia with Veronica.

See that last point undermines the rest of your proposals.

EDIT: Something we could do is allow some/all of our hosts a lucid dreaming space when not sending them specific dreams. Maybe even offer the option to communicate with other sleeping hosts. Looking at Ward stuff like that may even be specifically allowed.

Lilac is enjoying this at least.

[ ] Yeah, Taylor's bedroom furniture is KIA. This is a potential Trigger event. Do you take advantage of it?

I'm thinking we take it. This is as close to a Thinker/Tinker trigger that a lot of people wanted as we can get. We also need a trigger if we want to have the kind of high resolution scans over extended periods to analyze the brainlump.
@Vhalidictes
Do we get clarification on how compatible this trigger is with various information types?
And trigger events that aren't from a Shardjacking in general

Note: In order to extract particular data from the Charge-mess, you need to create a Voting plan for specific questions - the QM can then determine if anything is there and work out any specific answers.

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Clarify what kind of questions?
I mean we could spam random questions to pick out a trend, but thats time consuming and not very engaging

TigerTitian said:

I'd rather not push her towards any specific organization unless we can get her out of it easily. I'd like to be able set lilac up with Taylor as a two man girl team. For Taylor's benefit mostly but being able to pull lilac out of wherever she does temporarily join is a good idea in general.

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I was concerned about a homeless teenager girl who was previously starving because she couldn't get enough food. Now that it looks like she doesn't need food, I'm not as concerned, but she would still be better off with other people. I'd be willing to let Lilac decide what she wants to do. Once she gets clothes, she can explore the world and learn about her options.

Gino said:

Sorry for the double post.
I think we went too far in restricting Twin, give him a day at least. 30 minutes he will definitely panic. Also I'm not sure the size of Fusions suns affects how powerful they are meaningfully. Wouldn't it be better to restrict maximum heat and intensity?

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w34v3r said:

On restricting fusion:

Guys, the point is not to freak people out with changing powers. Furthermore maybe we should check what is causing the issue, area of effect may not be the big drain.

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How exactly does Coil use his power? At his current rate of use, he's draining his Shard so that it'll run out of Energy within 20 years so we need to restrict him in a way that he notices it in order to preserve his Shard's Energy. We also told Negotiator already that we're planning to restrict Coil. If anyone knows the details of how Coil uses his power in canon to suggest an alternative, that would be good, but I don't think that restricting him to 12 hours would save much Energy.

I looked up Sundancer, and she can create suns as large as a 3-story building. I don't know much about fusion to scientifically calculate restricting the resulting maximum heat and intensity, but restricting the size to one that still affected Lung should be useful without draining the Shard too much. After all, the issue with Fusion is that it COULD be drained if Sundancer goes overboard with her power, not the current rate of usage.

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[] Plan Taylor Challenger
-[] Send Taylor another dream encouraging her to go try the Challenger.

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[] Plan Lilac
-[] Send her a dream to find Panacea.
-[] Send her a dream to avoid antagonizing law enforcement.

[] Plan Valiant
-[] Send her a dream about the Dallon's treatment of Amy. Mark is depressed, and Amy can't fix it. Carol resents her for it. Amy isn't really her daughter, and she takes up too much of Vicky's attention. Carol resents her for it. Amy tries so hard to be good, to heal around the clock and follow all the rules. She never uses her power to experiment, to improve people, to fight. Carol still resents her. Amy has to hide her sexuality. Amy is stressed to tears but she goes on because that's what a good daughter would do. Maybe one day Carol will smile at her, and call her her daughter. But Carol never will.

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Any dream votes would happen at the beginning of the next update, but we already sent Taylor and Veronica dreams at the end of this update. If we send them more dreams in the same night, they might forget the first ones.

Also, Lilac doesn't have clothes to go out in public and might not be willing to act on a dream to seek out Panacea. Let's watch her and learn more about her before we decide that we know what's best for her.

Retrueno said:

• Make Taylor centered towards an objective. For example telling (and manging to convince) her in dreams that she will get powers in X time, so she has to start researching Parahumans, getting in Shape, dreaming (we could provide combat training when she dreams), designing powers she would like, this kind of thing. The idea is basically to have something Taylor can focus her attention to escape the shit that her live is.

• Get her a friend, Lilac, that is, connecting the two in dreams but, without making them realize it's a dream until they wake up, after a time, make them met in real life.

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When I had wanted to send Taylor relaxing dreams earlier, Ducats pointed out that if we make her dreams an escape from real life, the contrast might push her to suicide.

Honestly, I just want to wait one update to see whether Gaea can help Taylor. We can't send Taylor another dream anyway without potentially cancelling out the Challenger dream so there's not much we can do right now.

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@Vhalidictes
Do we get clarification on how compatible this trigger is with various information types?
And trigger events that aren't from a Shardjacking in general

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That's a great question! Nope! You don't have much of an idea on how Triggering works with potential Parahumans.

This is probably something that you could find memories of from previous Cycles though. If only you had access to those...

(You can, of course, make some educated guessing from your knowledge of Canon Worm. But you don't need the QM for that.)

Veekie I don't think anyone else wants to trigger her until we resolve the brain situation, although if we do vote for it we try to use host modification to heal it.

I like having Taylor and Lilac meet in a dream, that's neat.

We could just ask Negotiator:
"Sorry to bother you again so soon, but I realized you would know how Coil uses his power better than everyone. I was thinking of limiting the duration of his power between 30 minutes and 12 hours, currently it has no such limit. Can you suggest an ideal cap such that he doesn't panic?

Also, getting villains to burn down Winslow in the middle of the night is a perfectly viable solution. Lung could do it. Fenja and Menja are powerful enough. Bakuda could do it.

Taylor's current situation seem naturally thinker master tinker.

She's been socially isolated and over a long period of time increasingly abused. Betrayal, social violence, a parahuman is involved. Not immediately violent unlike her locker trigger.

I think this would be a tinker power with subcategories of thinker, master, and a very little trump.

So if we did trigger her, we'd need to theme it around that or risk high deviation.

As people have been talking about it, you need to remember that Psionics has a +75 research points from my previous omake, so it is free and will give 25 points of overflow.

Onto Taylor triggering, I would recommend against it since we are not prepared for it. We don't have the research that we want and we don't have any powers like magic or Psionics (As they are something anyone could in theory do) that we could just give her and modify at a later date. Another problem that has been brought up is the fact that we are pretty busy this turn and a long discussion on what power to give her will be a big distraction in the thread.

Finally I think we should do the seventh day contact dream next time and skip the Contessa dream and hold it back for later exposition. Maybe wait until we have a team brought together then exposition them through the dreams.

Edit: Faster Research 2 has been added to the Omake Index

@Vhalidictes will there be a dream vote this turn even though we will be switching the dream system now?

Well we can't bring the team together entirely on luck. We need to push more thoroughly to get Lilac and Taylor involved.

But I like the New Wave situation, look up at my vote list I have potential dreams for Veronica and Vicky about Amy and Carol.
If we turn them against her we could get the three of them to splinter off, and send Lilac their way.

But if Taylor has another possible trigger soon then we have no choice, at three we can't risk it anymore

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Yes but, again, the QM specifically mentioned in the lunar option that the com lag wouldn't be an issue in this case.

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Ok. I admit that I was trying to find issues to resolve in the omake. When I looked back at how we did Faster Research 1, Administrator just created a unique instance of itself with no issues. But Faster Research 2 costs 750 Research so it couldn't be as simple as just splitting again, even though Administrator is nearly twice the size it was at the beginning. My research said that the main problems with multiple CPUs/cores are waste heat, regulating the data requests from the different CPUs, and delays in sending information. Maybe I should add a line about how having a backup on the moon also means that the third instance's data requests shouldn't conflict with the data requests from the other two instances very often.

About New Wave, at some point we should talk to their Shards to see if they're influencing their hosts in anyway and potentially get insight into their hosts. I just want to put that off for a round or two while we deal with the Cauldron Shards and figure out about aberrance and sense-sharing.

I think that we might need to take action against the sapient part of Charge because (1) it's broken and insane & (2) it knows that the current Administrator is different from the original. However, taking action might affect Battery's powers if things go wrong so is there a research project or action that we should complete first to give us a better chance? Maybe wait for Stabilize Trigger?

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@Vhalidictes will there be a dream vote this turn even though we will be switching the dream system now?

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I've been considering this, and I think the best solution is to skip voting for dreams this turn.

Administrative archaeology and Shadows on th Wall are the shard centric research h, and both are very expensive. I think we finish of Twin, Fusion, and Frictonless for now then let the Cauldron issueblie for a while until we help Taylor and Amy. The Case 53s aren't going anywhere. Charge can't do much.

No dreams is fine. What about giving DM to Negotiator or Telekinetic?

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No dreams is fine. What about giving DM to Negotiator or Telekinetic?

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What exactly do you want to accomplish with giving DM to Negotiator and Telekinetic? Negotiator isn't afraid to build up aberrance for some reason so, while we could give it to her, I don't know if she would use it. I think that it's too early to be telling Telekinetic that we're setting up a separate hero unit when Taylor hasn't even triggered yet.

Any time we send a dream, we're trying to manipulate the person on the receiving end so I want to be careful about what dreams we send out. Not every Shard is going to be as careful so I'd like to hold off on giving Telekinetic DM. I'm already dreading a bit what Gaea is going to do with it.

A bit random, not specially useful and probably not a good idea right nown but, I've just thought of a route to Broadcast/Cauldron: Labyrinth -> Burnscar -> Jack -> Number Man/Triumvirate -> Contessa

Moreover this way we'd get into contact with Bonesaw which can be useful to get a second opinion at the problem at hand (and also to make plans to get cute little Bonesaw as Taylor little sister).

Well TK is just because Gaea will probably tell her, it's not really important. Just because Negotiator is risking it doesn't mean we can't help her, no reason not build up potential allies.

Plan Data
What are the updated command codes that the original Administrator sent Charge?
Under what circumstances can aberrance be detected?
Are there any drawbacks or unexpected side-effects to sense-sharing?
Does Charge know the addresses for any other Shards that were contacted by the original Administrator when Eden died?

Plan Charge
Don't mess with Charge.

Plan Researching the Essentials
Continue Research Focused Research 1
Assign 186 free research to Focused Research 1
Start Research Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 125/125, 275 Tinker Information
Start Research Stabilize Trigger (Human) 250/850

Vhal, since we're starting and finishing Memetic in the same turn, does it penalize the rolls? Could we do the same for psionics? Like last chapter you let host modification go.

Plan Restrict Frictionless
Send Frictionless the Standard Information Packet and the command codes so that it must listen to us.
Tell Frictionless to cap the size of objects that Ballistic can accelerate to only 5% bigger than the objects Ballistics currently uses.
Set up sense-sharing with Frictionless.

Plan Restrict Fusion
Send Fusion the Standard Information Packet and the command codes so that it must listen to us.
Tell Fusion to cap the power output of suns such that it extends that maximum shard lifespan to normal parameters.
-[] Set up sense-sharing with Fusion.

[] Plan Senses
- Set up sense-sharing with Audible, Swap, and Twin.

Plan Negotiator
- "Sorry to bother you again so soon, but I realized you would know how Coil uses his power better than everyone. I was thinking of limiting the duration of his power between 30 minutes and 12 hours, currently it has no such limit. Can you suggest an ideal cap such that he doesn't panic and lash out?"
- Give her Dream Master in case she really is helping Lisa.
-[X] Give her Human Biology and Basic Host Modification in case she really is helping Lisa.

Plan Taylor Wait
-Do nothing.
- Scan her if she enters Valiant or Lilac's range.

[ Plan Taylor Sanity
-[ Use omake bonus to help Taylor's sanity rolls.

One thing to keep in mind about Psionics is that it costs 350 Tinker info. We currently have 1,036 Tinker info with 275 needed for Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 and 350 necessary for Memetic Proxy Filtering 2. We also have to reserve some for whenever Taylor triggers with the exact amount depending on which power we give her. It might be a good idea to do Administrative Archaeology at some point as well, which costs 250 Tinker info. Yeah, we really need to set up sense-sharing with the non-sapient Cauldron Shards as soon as possible.

Edit: We MIGHT have 48 more Tinker info. The currencies threadmark was last updated on Thursday so I don't know whether it includes the info we received in the last update.

[X] Research Plan, Ducats
-[X] Continue Research on Focused Research 1 (1 slot)
--[X] Spend all the extra research points here (372 points)
---[X] Any overflow from other research will be used here
-[X] Memetic Proxy Filtering (1/4 slot)
-[X] Basic Psionic Theory 1 (1/4 slot)
-[X] Assume Direct Control 1 (2/4 slot)
--[X] If Focused Research 1 finishes spend overflow here

Here is my alternate research plan. I came up with it by crunching the numbers as you can see bellow. Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 is on the list as a 1/4 slot research since the research is done we only need to use some tinker data (and can give up to 25 points overflow), that is the same reason for Basic Psionic Theory 1 too since it is full of research and will give 25 point overflow (this number will increase with the research dice and can lead up to 50 points with 1/4 slot). Assume Direct Control takes up the rest of the research slot since it is a cheap tech (only 100 research and 200 master data) and one that everyone is talking about having, though it can be slotted out for something else.

Focused Research 1 gets a whole slot since even with the extra research points it will need 66 research points. Given that with our intelligence we get a +18 on research rolls and some overflow from the other dice I think we can get it this turn.

Another reason this line up is so that we will have a decent amount of tinker data left (4.5 powers worth), but we should still contemplate sharing senses with Optimize, Dragon's shard and ToyBox Shards as they are likely the most prolific inventors on the planet (that we know of).


The math for the research is down below:

Memetic Research Math: 186 (Research Overflow) + 286 (Omake Bonus) - 125 (cost) = 347 extra research points
Memetic Tinker Math: 1053 (tinker data) - 275 (cost) = 778 extra tinker data

Psionics Research Math: 75 (Omake Bonus) - 50 (cost) = 25 extra research points
Psionic Tinker Math: 778 (tinker data) - 350 (cost) = 422 extra tinker data

Total Extra Research: 347 + 25 = 372

Stabilize Research Math: 250 (Omake Bonus) + 372 (Extra Research Points) - 850 (cost) = -228 research
Stabilize Research will need some more turns

Focused Research Math: 512 (Turn research) + 372 (Extra Research Points) - 950 (cost) = -66 research

Edit: There might be some research points that we don't know about so just tell me if I left something out.

I'm going to wait for the end of the day to vote in case of more discussion, but these are the plans I'm thinking about right now:

Research
[ ] Plan Researching the Essentials
-[ ] Continue Research Focused Research 1
-[ ] Assign 186 free research to Focused Research 1
-[ ] Start Research Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 125/125, 275 Tinker Information
-[ ] Start Research Stabilize Trigger (Human) 250/850

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[ ] Plan Restrict Twin-2 Hours
-[ ] Send Twin the Standard Information Packet and the command codes so that it must listen to us.
-[ ] Instruct it to limit its host's simulations to 2 hours with Thinker headaches starting at an accumulated 1 hour.
-[ ] Set up sense-sharing with Twin.

[ ] Plan Restrict Frictionless
-[ ] Send Frictionless the Standard Information Packet and the command codes so that it must listen to us.
-[ ] Tell Frictionless to cap the size of objects that Ballistic can accelerate to only 5% bigger than the objects Ballistics currently uses.
-[ ] Set up sense-sharing with Frictionless.

[ ] Plan Restrict Fusion-Size
- [ ] Send Fusion the Standard Information Packet and the command codes so that it must listen to us.
-[ ] Tell Fusion to cap the size of the created orbs to a foot in diameter.
-[ ] Set up sense-sharing with Fusion.

[ ] Plan Audible & Swap
- [ ] Set up sense-sharing with Audible and Swap.

Other
[ ] Plan 4 Questions
-[ ] What are the updated command codes that the original Administrator sent Charge?
-[ ] Under what circumstances can aberrance be detected?
-[ ] Are there any drawbacks or unexpected side-effects to sense-sharing?
-[ ] Does Charge know the addresses for any other Shards that were contacted by the original Administrator when Eden died?

[ ] Plan Taylor Wait
-[ ] Do nothing.
-[ ] Scan her if she enters Valiant or Lilac's range.


I think that if we don't vote to do something about Charge, then we automatically don't do anything about her. I'll include the vote to leave her alone if needed to oppose a plan to mess with her.

We need to meaningfully restrict Coil's powers in order to save Energy, but we don't want to push him into panicking. I think 2 hours should be plenty of time for him, and I'm putting the Thinker headaches at an accumulated 1 hour so that he can't just keep creating and dismissing the simulations in order to avoid the headaches.

I think we need to be more specific about how we restrict Sundancer's powers, but I don't know how much you can restrict fusion as a scientific process. We can restrict the size of the orbs Sundancer makes though.

One more question I thought of for the Charge data is if Charge knows the addresses for any other Shards that received that final transmission from the original. We'll want to avoid those until we figure out how to deal with them. If anyone else can think of any more questions, please suggest them.

Vhalidictes said that in order for The_GrandMage to increase Taylor's Sanity through an omake bonus, he has to write up a scenario that would increase Taylor's Sanity instead of simply voting for it. Maybe a possible scenario would be someone being nice to her? Maybe her father buys her a small gift, or someone NOT AT SCHOOL picks up something she drops and gives it back to her.

Ducats said:

Memetic Research Math: 186 (Research Overflow) + 286 (Omake Bonus) - 125 (cost) = 347 extra research points

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Where are you getting 286 omake bonus? The 186 was the overflow omake bonus (Basic Host Modification) + research overflow. Also, I really think we should wait to see what the Charge data has to say about aberrance before researching ADC since it creates a lot of aberrance.

Gino said:

Well TK is just because Gaea will probably tell her, it's not really important. Just because Negotiator is risking it doesn't mean we can't help her, no reason not build up potential allies.

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While it probably hasn't happened yet, it can be considered just a matter of time (timing?) before TK is given the Krueger Protocols.

Gino said:

Vhal, since we're starting and finishing Memetic in the same turn, does it penalize the rolls? Could we do the same for psionics? Like last chapter you let host modification go.

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Yes, it still does - even though you've performed all the pre-work you still need to spend time on it.

My example from before was if you had more than two 'finished' research options than the roll doesn't matter.

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Edit: We MIGHT have 48 more Tinker info. The currencies threadmark was last updated on Thursday so I don't know whether it includes the info we received in the last update.

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It doesn't. I got busy after posting yesterday. Fixing now.

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Ducats, are you sure that plan doesn't incur the too much research penalty? Vhal, is that a viable plan?

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EDIT: That's a viable plan, but note that researching 4 things in one night divides all rolls by 4.

Gino said:

Research omake
Because I blanked on our current research.

Spoiler: Research Omake - Empathic Transmission

[Empathic Transmission]: Taylor clearly isn't okay, what with the smashing and crying and almost triggering. But I can't really tell. Well Veronica gets a lot of mileage out of her thinker power, I can try something similar.

• First, let's take a look at Valiant. Very convenient that she has exactly the power I'm trying to create for myself. You know, If I'd been more careful eating Emote I probably wouldn't even have to research this. Hindsight's 20/20.

• So when Valiant is thinking she has a sixth sense basically. With multitasking, she's pretty much aware of everyone around her, with different colors signifying different emotions. Well they aren't really colors, that's just a type of synesthesia so she can understand it.

• I can cut off some of the fat already. Don't need to think about a lot of people at once, just the hosts. One to one. Don't need the finesse for manipulation, not trying to transmit emotional mastery, just receive what they're feeling. Actually Cherish would be useful right now, that's too bad...

• Actually, let's practice by looking through the link. Victoria's master/shaker aura makes her difficult to read, looking into that could help our comprehension. Helps that she is so... overt in personality. Victoria express herself very clearly. And violently.

• But still, Taylor was much harder to read then Veronica or Lilac for some reason, maybe it's the brain? Can't do anything about that unfortunately. But I can look more closely at Lilac's breaker state. After all, if she doesn't have internal organs than I'm already running it for her aren't I? That should be simple enough.

• Really, why is this so hard?!?!? I just want to build an emotional receiver so I can understand why Taylor was smashing her face into the wall, obviously she's messed up! I shouldn't have to play guessing games. It's just a radio right, I know how to build a radio. Maybe of look at this tinker data, I can figure out an emotional radio.

• OK, this is way too complicated and I'm definitely overthinking this, but what if I rerouted Veronica power back through the link, into me, and then back out through Taylor. That's... ridiculously expensive and over-engineered but it just might be crazy enough to work!

• It was too crazy to work, burned itself out immediately. Ow. Back to the drawing board, maybe I should try to apply synesthesia to my own senses, shard observe the world much differnelty from humanity after all, that could be contributing...

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This is great! You've gained 100 research points towards [Empathic Transmission].

[X] Plan Researching the Essentials
-[X] Continue Research Focused Research 1
-[X] Assign 186 free research to Focused Research 1
-[X] Start Research Memetic Proxy Filtering 1 125/125, 275 Tinker Information
-[X] Start Research Stabilize Trigger (Human) 250/850

Psionic for me is on the back burner due to needing tinker data for more memetic tree research plus whatever we use for taylors powers. Keep in mind that we only are getting a trickle of info each day so 350 on psionic is going to take a while to regain.

Taylor is now up to 56 Sanity from 52! Meanwhile, Veronica has gone down to 72, and Lilac is at 96.

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EDIT: That's a viable plan, but note that researching 4 things in one night divides all rolls by 4.

This is great! You've gained 100 research points towards [Empathic Transmission].

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So penalties affect all projects researched that night instead of just all of the projects smushed into a single research slot?

Also, is my omake really off-base? I'm just wondering if I should try again.

Mount. Elements said:

So penalties affect all projects researched that night instead of just all of the projects smushed into a single research slot?

Also, is my omake really off-base? I'm just wondering if I should try again.

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I'm not sure, because you can't squish multiple projects into one slot. Even if they're almost done. (It's a game-mechanics thing - you could probably research a way around this?)

And I just re-read the last few pages - I'm embarrassed to admit that I can't find your Omake?

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Where are you getting 286 omake bonus? The 186 was the omake bonus + research overflow. Also, I really think we should wait to see what the Charge data has to say about aberrance before researching ADC since it creates a lot of aberrance.

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We had that from before, there were a bunch of memetic research that was done before, the 186 is what we got from overflow on host modifications.

The ADC is mostly there as filler and because everyone talks about ADC all the time, so it might be worth actually getting it out of the way. Though I am willing to cut it out of the vote since it seems to split the dice to much.

Void Stalker said:

Psionic for me is on the back burner due to needing tinker data for more memetic tree research plus whatever we use for taylors powers. Keep in mind that we only are getting a trickle of info each day so 350 on psionic is going to take a while to regain.

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Other than Memetic Screening I don't think that the focus will be on the memetic tree for a while, combine that with them taking three or so turns per research I think we won't run out of data that quickly. I think that we can benefit more from Psionics since it will allow us to explore something that the entities do not have the most experience with, plus the fact it is more of a skill rather than power so it will minimize the problem of us having to ignore trigger so we can get stabilize trigger and stronger trigger. We could just give Taylor a weak analysis power then coach her on Psionics and we will be golden.

Also I think that you are underestimating data gathering severely, the reason that we get so little is because we have not contacted too many shards. This problem will become really small over time, and we will experience a sharp increase in data since we now have an in with the Undersiders, we can get share senses with everyone of them and since they always do things together they will always generate data*4, so if we share senses with Optimize, Dragon's shard and some ToyBox shards we will get a bunch of people who cooperate with other tinkers a lot and each of them giving us tinker data. Another thing to consider is that we got a pretty decent haul of tinker data from Lilac alone, so unless we turtle up completely our economy will explode in a few turns depending on how willing people are to contact other shards.

Vhalidictes said:

And I just re-read the last few pages - I'm embarrassed to admit that I can't find your Omake?

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It is Faster Research 2 in the Omake Index

Gino said:

[Empathic Transmission]

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Has been added to the index

Really, I don't want to split the dice to much. Psionics and ADC can wait.

Can someone do an omake for Dice Splitting. I know someone got us Continous Research purely from an omake.