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Game of the Year: A Naruto Quest

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[X] Plan: Don't buy in, but don't be stupid
-[X] You know this is a genjutsu. You know that Kurenai is a mistress of genjutsu, so it is no surprise she'd go with this as a test. It's likely how you feel is genjutsu too. Don't let it unman you.
-[X] Try biting your tongue to break out of the genjutsu. Don't choke on the blood though.
-[X] At the same time, 'Tokei' may be Kurenai in henge and this may be more complicated than it seems. Go into an unarmed defense to ward off attacks from Tokei, but limit yourself so that you aren't attacking your teammates, while trying to find flaws in Tokei's portrayal.

Please, lets just vote for something that doesn't involve trying to break a genjutsu with a tried and failed method.
Try to break the genjutsu with more Chakra, but otherwise, trust in your teammates to break it for you, and don't panic.
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Or fighting an obvious illusion with a sword like an idiot for that matter.

Besides, it was never stated that the smoke is in any way or form part of the gen-jutsu. It's probably just a diversion to hide a plain and simple jutsu like the Hell Viewing Technique.
 
Perception is just 80 XP from becoming Journeyman, and there's no telling what stunt will happen next for Success Condition 3. That, and Journeyman Perception might help Daisuke realize why specifically his Genjutsu breaking isn't working.
Adhoc vote count started by Kkutlord on Nov 22, 2018 at 11:44 PM, finished with 10453 posts and 67 votes.
  • [X] Plan: Calm Analytics
    -[X] You know this is a genjutsu. You know that Kurenai is a mistress of genjutsu, so it is no surprise that you can't escape it. Calm yourself, you know this is all a fake.
    -[X] You are not the little boy that was helpless back then, be confident in what you accomplished, and try to endure the trauma.
    -[X] The quest log only confirms that Kurenai has started to attack your group, and it tells you to survive, not fight or win. So the winning condition is to last long enough.
    -[X] Try to break the genjutsu with more Chakra, but otherwise, trust in your teammates to break it for you, and don't panic.
    -[X] Go into an unarmed defense only to ward off attacks from Tokei, but limit yourself so that you aren't attacking your teammates.
    [X] Plan: Don't buy in, but don't be stupid
    -[X] You know this is a genjutsu. You know that Kurenai is a mistress of genjutsu, so it is no surprise she'd go with this as a test. It's likely how you feel is genjutsu too. Don't let it unman you.
    -[X] Try biting your tongue to break out of the genjutsu. Don't choke on the blood though.
    -[X] At the same time, 'Tokei' may be Kurenai in henge and this may be more complicated than it seems. Go into an unarmed defense to ward off attacks from Tokei, but limit yourself so that you aren't attacking your teammates, while trying to find flaws in Tokei's portrayal.
    [X] Tokei has a sword, but so do you! You've killed him before; you can do it again.
    [X] This is still an illusion! If Chakra doesn't work, pain might do the trick! Bite your tongue hard.
    [X] This is still an illusion! You know it! You just need to break it! Pump even more chakra into your dispelling technique and escape it!
    [X] This moment has haunted you the last seven years. Hidden from thought, its shadow clings to you. Is it any wonder how you move here, foolish as it may be? Attempt to disarm him and knock him unconscious.
    [X] Sit down, Close your eyes, and relax. This is a dead man, a man you killed. Just... Wait.
    [X] Try and plug your nose with what ever you have to hand, in the meanwhile defend yourself from Tokei, when you have a moment that won't risk you getting skewered by Tokei try and break the illusion again, using a combination of Chakra and pain.
    [X] Yell for the guards, play for time.
    [X] Challenge your shadow to a verbal duel. Talk him down. Disarm him with words. Convince him to blame himself and seek our forgiveness. He should have protected us, he should have taught us the right way. Instead of teaching us the samurai way, right under his nose he let a ninja teach us. He should be apologizing to us, instead of trying to kill us to hide his failures.
    [X] This is still an illusion! If Chakra doesn't work, pain might do the trick! Bite your lip hard.
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Katsuragi said:
Cool. Get to earning it and level it up then.
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That Expert perform really did impress Kurenai, Kiba, Akamaru and Mariko....not.

Kurenai was more impressed with a board game. They weren't even that impress with the music or super enjoyed it. 800 EXP completely wasted in my opinion.

Could have gone to Bluff or Intimidate or Diplomacy if you wanted to stick to the Bard theme. Maybe even into Pinnacle Charisma. We already seeing the benefits of higher Diplomacy with Mariko and Pinnacle Apperance + Charisma/Empathy at superhuman level.

And man that Elite Genjutsu skill is surely helping us out right now...not. The 1600 EXP absolutely shouldn't feel like a waste but it does.

We can be at a career genin level on it and we still get the same info on what to do against it on this update. Master Genjutsu mistress she is, Jounin don't usually get completely run over by Kage level ninjas. A Single Rank Difference shouldn't cause this. It should feel like an uphill battle but not impossible like the illusion we are in right now.

And if the pain/Kai doesn't work on the next update, we fail or are very close to failing the exam unless she gives us one last chance or something. It would be hilarious sad but reasonable that all the points into diplomacy, sense motive, and high social attributes don't do much against 7 years of hatred and we fail the jounin exam cause we couldn't fix this issue in a single day and we go to the corps like Team 9.

People have too much expectations of it all magically going to work out. Because Will of Fire or something.

At least a lesson would be learn. Some things are out of your control. Rookie of the year in genin corps while the one below him pass the jounin exam. Blablabla Konoha Blood rings true or whatever.

Sounds like an opening Danzo can take advantage from.


Also I dunno about Sasuke but he not at the level to defend against Special Jounin Taijutsu/Genjutsu/Ninjutsu/Kenjutsu (Plus Kenjutsu Bonus from Iron Bastard but he does get genjutsu a pass cause he kai it....unlike Daisuke who can't do that right now) at the time of the spar.

Sasuke is talented but at this time of canon, he should at least be career genin level before he graduates from the academy. Maybe Chunnin level of using throwing weapons. Chunnin with his great fire ball jutsu but he should have been completely winded after the third one.

The Sasuke of the spar seems more like Beginning Chunnin Exam Sasuke or the Sasuke that got out of the first mini tournament on the Chunnin exams before he went to train with Kakashi against Gaara.

Sasuke at the time of the spar shouldn't have stood a chance against Daisuke unless Sasuke took the stealth route and it would have taught the thread that being a ninja means taking care of being stealthy and being aware of your surroundings. You know, take advantage of Daisuke weaknesses or something.

Maybe it just Named Character Plot armor or something. It the reason why jounin anbu members are treated as mooks.
 
Usernames said:
That Expert perform really did impress Kurenai, Kiba, Akamaru and Mariko....not.

Kurenai was more impressed with a board game. They weren't even that impress with the music or super enjoyed it. 800 EXP completely wasted in my opinion.

Could have gone to Bluff or Intimidate or Diplomacy if you wanted to stick to the Bard theme. Maybe even into Pinnacle Charisma. We already seeing the benefits of higher Diplomacy with Mariko and Pinnacle Apperance + Charisma/Empathy at superhuman level.

And man that Elite Genjutsu skill is surely helping us out right now...not. The 1600 EXP absolutely shouldn't feel like a waste but it does.

We can be at a career genin level on it and we still get the same info on what to do against it on this update. Master Genjutsu mistress she is, Jounin don't usually get completely run over by Kage level ninjas. A Single Rank Difference shouldn't cause this. It should feel like an uphill battle but not impossible like the illusion we are in right now.

And if the pain/Kai doesn't work on the next update, we fail or are very close to failing the exam unless she gives us one last chance or something. It would be hilarious sad but reasonable that all the points into diplomacy, sense motive, and high social attributes don't do much against 7 years of hatred and we fail the jounin exam cause we couldn't fix this issue in a single day and we go to the corps like Team 9.

People have too much expectations of it all magically going to work out. Because Will of Fire or something.

At least a lesson would be learn. Some things are out of your control. Rookie of the year in genin corps while the one below him pass the jounin exam. Blablabla Konoha Blood rings true or whatever.

Sounds like an opening Danzo can take advantage from.


Also I dunno about Sasuke but he not at the level to defend against Special Jounin Taijutsu/Genjutsu/Ninjutsu/Kenjutsu (Plus Kenjutsu Bonus from Iron Bastard but he does get genjutsu a pass cause he kai it....unlike Daisuke who can't do that right now) at the time of the spar.

Sasuke is talented but at this time of canon, he should at least be career genin level before he graduates from the academy. Maybe Chunnin level of using throwing weapons. Chunnin with his great fire ball jutsu but he should have been completely winded after the third one.

The Sasuke of the spar seems more like Beginning Chunnin Exam Sasuke or the Sasuke that got out of the first mini tournament on the Chunnin exams before he went to train with Kakashi against Gaara.

Sasuke at the time of the spar shouldn't have stood a chance against Daisuke unless Sasuke took the stealth route and it would have taught the thread that being a ninja means taking care of being stealthy and being aware of your surroundings. You know, take advantage of Daisuke weaknesses or something.

Maybe it just Named Character Plot armor or something. It the reason why jounin anbu members are treated as mooks.
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I want to funny this but I got screwed enough on that, that I have to ask...this IS a joke right?
 
People really should remember Bonus XP given for art and Omakes is just that.

Bonus Xp. As in, we could go the whole quest without needing it. Yes it's useful but at the end if the day it's not necessary for success.

Also, it's nobody's business what they spend their reward Xp on but them. That's the whole point of it being a reward.

You want a skill to be more important? Cool! Use your words to convince the thread or put in the work to make it happen with reward xp. But don't whine about how other people choose to spend their reward because it doesn't match your priorities.
 
Lalzparty said:
We are certainly gonna attack our teammates if we choose to attack.
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I doubt it. This seems to not be an Aizen-style make everyone fight each other illusion that Kurenai is guiding manually; he mentioned us being on our second life, something no one could know. It's much more likely for this to be a generic "face your fears" sort of illusion, especially when you consider that this is meant to be a test. It could either be worse for us because of our having had to kill him as a child, or everyone is facing down a would-be murderer, and she wants to know how we all react against someone who's seemingly trying to kill us.
 
But hey, at least we didn't boast about killing the guy when we first met Kurenai, right?
 
Zaratustra said:
Actualy in retrospect if we had told her them we may not have needed to face him now, after all there is chance she would chose a diferent test to avoid having a fresh genin facing something this traumatic.
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Except telling random strangers about your first kill when they ask you for a single fact you consider interesting about you, isn't exactly a sign of trauma. Indeed, avoiding any mention of it is. She probably would have used the same test to see if we're in any risk of going Itachi in a safe and controlled environment, or if we genuinely got over it.
 
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This isn't hard, there are only two options to consider:
1. The genjutsu just fools the senses, and Daisuke is currently looking horrified and combat ready next to a yelling Kiba.
2. The genjutsu takes over everything, and Daisuke is currently staring at emptiness next to an equally vegetable-like Kiba.
For the first option, the correct action is causing yourself pain, to get the genjutsu to end.
For the second option, the correct action is to try to minimize the effects (psychological damage, duration) of the genjutsu, by reminding yourself that it's an illusion.

That's it.

[X] Plan: Don't buy in, but don't be stupid

This has both the elements that are mentioned above, so it's sufficient, even though there is an unnecessary third addition in the vote.
The notion that Tokei is Kurenai in henge is just asinine. Kurenai doesn't know the things "Tokei" is saying. And if it is just the hallucination doing the talking, why on earth would it not be the hallucination doing the walking? The genjutsu already hides Kiba and Mariko, there's no reason for it not to hide Kurenai as well. Edit: also, this implies that Kiba and Mariko would be seeing Tokei as well, unless Kurenai had shadow clones performing the jutsu separately on them. Edit^2: also, what kind of a genjutsu master would create an elaborate technique that would encourage the target to lethally attack said master?
 
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Zaratustra said:
Actualy in retrospect if we had told her them we may not have needed to face him now, after all there is chance she would chose a diferent test to avoid having a fresh genin facing something this traumatic.
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She should have read the files about each genin. There should be a mention of Tokei there.

So yeah, she should have had a good idea about what Daisuke would experience.
 
[X] Plan: Don't buy in, but don't be stupid
-[X] You know this is a genjutsu. You know that Kurenai is a mistress of genjutsu, so it is no surprise she'd go with this as a test. It's likely how you feel is genjutsu too. Don't let it unman you.
-[X] Try biting your tongue to break out of the genjutsu. Don't choke on the blood though.
-[X] At the same time, 'Tokei' may be Kurenai in henge and this may be more complicated than it seems. Go into an unarmed defense to ward off attacks from Tokei, but limit yourself so that you aren't attacking your teammates, while trying to find flaws in Tokei's portrayal.
 
Paroni said:
This isn't hard, there are only two options to consider:
1. The genjutsu just fools the senses, and Daisuke is currently looking horrified and combat ready next to a yelling Kiba.
2. The genjutsu takes over everything, and Daisuke is currently staring at emptiness next to an equally vegetable-like Kiba.
For the first option, the correct action is causing yourself pain, to get the genjutsu to end.
For the second option, the correct action is to try to minimize the effects (psychological damage, duration) of the genjutsu, by reminding yourself that it's an illusion.

That's it.


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This has both the elements that are mentioned above, so it's sufficient, even though there is an unnecessary third addition in the vote.
The notion that Tokei is Kurenai in henge is just asinine. Kurenai doesn't know the things "Tokei" is saying. And if it is just the hallucination doing the talking, why on earth would it not be the hallucination doing the walking? The genjutsu already hides Kiba and Mariko, there's no reason for it not to hide Kurenai as well. Edit: also, this implies that Kiba and Mariko would be seeing Tokei as well, unless Kurenai had shadow clones performing the jutsu separately on them. Edit^2: also, what kind of a genjutsu master would create an elaborate technique that would encourage the target to lethally attack said master?
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Well argued. Changing my vote.
 
[X] This is still an illusion! You know it! You just need to break it! Pump even more chakra into your dispelling technique and escape it!
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Vesvius on Nov 23, 2018 at 10:31 AM, finished with 10472 posts and 73 votes.
  • 83
    [X] Plan: Don't buy in, but don't be stupid
    -[X] You know this is a genjutsu. You know that Kurenai is a mistress of genjutsu, so it is no surprise she'd go with this as a test. It's likely how you feel is genjutsu too. Don't let it unman you.
    -[X] Try biting your tongue to break out of the genjutsu. Don't choke on the blood though.
    -[X] At the same time, 'Tokei' may be Kurenai in henge and this may be more complicated than it seems. Go into an unarmed defense to ward off attacks from Tokei, but limit yourself so that you aren't attacking your teammates, while trying to find flaws in Tokei's portrayal.
    [X] Plan: Calm Analytics
    -[X] You know this is a genjutsu. You know that Kurenai is a mistress of genjutsu, so it is no surprise that you can't escape it. Calm yourself, you know this is all a fake.
    -[X] You are not the little boy that was helpless back then, be confident in what you accomplished, and try to endure the trauma.
    -[X] The quest log only confirms that Kurenai has started to attack your group, and it tells you to survive, not fight or win. So the winning condition is to last long enough.
    -[X] Try to break the genjutsu with more Chakra, but otherwise, trust in your teammates to break it for you, and don't panic.
    -[X] Go into an unarmed defense only to ward off attacks from Tokei, but limit yourself so that you aren't attacking your teammates.
    [X] This is still an illusion! If Chakra doesn't work, pain might do the trick! Bite your tongue hard.
    [X] Tokei has a sword, but so do you! You've killed him before; you can do it again.
    [X] This is still an illusion! You know it! You just need to break it! Pump even more chakra into your dispelling technique and escape it!
    [X] This moment has haunted you the last seven years. Hidden from thought, its shadow clings to you. Is it any wonder how you move here, foolish as it may be? Attempt to disarm him and knock him unconscious.
    [X] Sit down, Close your eyes, and relax. This is a dead man, a man you killed. Just... Wait.
    [X] Try and plug your nose with what ever you have to hand, in the meanwhile defend yourself from Tokei, when you have a moment that won't risk you getting skewered by Tokei try and break the illusion again, using a combination of Chakra and pain.
    [X] Duel this mad figment of the worst moment of your life. Before you were barely able to hold a sword, now you've become an Expert at Kenjutsu. Focus on making sure he can't harm you and ignore his words.
    [X] Yell for the guards, play for time.
    [X] Challenge your shadow to a verbal duel. Talk him down. Disarm him with words. Convince him to blame himself and seek our forgiveness. He should have protected us, he should have taught us the right way. Instead of teaching us the samurai way, right under his nose he let a ninja teach us. He should be apologizing to us, instead of trying to kill us to hide his failures.
    [X] This is still an illusion! If Chakra doesn't work, pain might do the trick! Bite your lip hard.
    [X] This is still an illusion! If Chakra doesn't work, pain might do the trick! Bite your tongue hard.
    -[X] If that doesn't work, fight to incapacitate Tokei non-lethally
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