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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I'll point out we have no particular reason to expect that researching Arts leads directly into an Art selection. Ling Qi is lacking a lot of foundational knowledge on the subject, and it would be an excellent narrative vehicle for @yrsillar to expand on his intentions and thought processes when it comes to the design and function of Arts vis-a-vis cultivation careers as a whole.

Delaying the subject's introduction to the narrative will only reduce our familiarity with the topic and condense any issues that arise in real-time, giving yrsillar less time and story-space to clear up misconceptions or make tweaks in response to feedback and polling the thread's interests in general.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DeAnno on Nov 10, 2018 at 10:45 AM, finished with 536 posts and 92 votes.
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Btw DeAnno, I've been wondering for a while (I began reading mid-tournament arc), but when you people write "Inserted tally", do you have it published somewhere? Because I've seen quite a few similar posts at the end of Forge of Destiny (and here too) and rarely seen the numbers themselves. If yes, where can I see them?
 
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Rather have an archive action than sect duties, even if I agree that formations are important.
 
Arkeus said:
We are in a position where TRF, FVM, SCS, FSS all finish in Appraisal Green (Green 2), and those are our current 'core' arts. With our perception art (AM) also being mastered, this means that we are looking to be getting 5 new arts within 6 turns or so.

We need that information to be able to make such choices by then, as we literally don't have enough time otherwise. There is going to be much less drama if we actually have time to think things through and make plans on the types of arts we want through research than if we panic in 6 month and try to get Yrsillar to create 20 arts to choose from then.

This is really needed.
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I disagree.

You are correct in saying that we have a lot of arts that cap at Appraisal. However, we can only cultivate 5 things at a time, and between Physical/Spiritual/EPC, 3 of those "slots" are already taken up. Thus, we only actually need a couple of core arts available at a time to round out our training schedule. In practice, we are highly likely to pick up at least one or two successor arts outside of the library - Zequing will hopefully teach up FSS+, we might get SCS+/FVM+ from a moon quest or the like, etc. Given what we need to train, it is entirely likely that we can keep cultivating at full speed well into Foundation without using the archive even once.

I'll further note that:
yrsillar said:
ranking above Nine Hundred gave her the right to attend freely the lessons of the Elders on the first mountain, and peruse the first floor of the Inner Sect's arts archive freely.
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So right now, we would only get to see the first floor archive, while presumably there are higher floors. So not only would taking Archive actions now be frontloading something that we won't need for the better part of a year, but we might not want to pick books from there at all!
 
Well, to be fair.

We might have enough Contribution Points to get at least one thing from a higher floor. I think it was mentioned you could get temporary passes to higher archive levels with CP?
 
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PrimalShadow said:
I disagree.

You are correct in saying that we have a lot of arts that cap at Appraisal. However, we can only cultivate 5 things at a time, and between Physical/Spiritual/EPC, 3 of those "slots" are already taken up. Thus, we only actually need a couple of core arts available at a time to round out our training schedule. In practice, we are highly likely to pick up at least one or two successor arts outside of the library - Zequing will hopefully teach up FSS+, we might get SCS+/FVM+ from a moon quest or the like, etc. Given what we need to train, it is entirely likely that we can keep cultivating at full speed well into Foundation without using the archive even once.
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This is sadly not as open cut as we'd like, there. We are likely to be in appraisal mid turn2, and appraisal bronze end turn 3. We are likely to get FVM mastered around the end of turn 4, and SCS around the end of turn 5. TRF should be mastered around the end of turn 6.

We have confirmation that's for arts like TRF we'd have to be 'pretty much an apprentice of an elder' to have access to them, so if we don't get FVM+/SCS+ with EPC7 moonquest, then we'll need to pick up replacement (though we won't equip those until they are better than SCS/FVM). For TRF, it's almost certain. If we count AM, that's at least 4 arts that we consider 'need one of those for core' that will be mastered by the end of turn 6.

If we further consider FSA/FZ/AC/AS, that's a lot of dead weight we'll be having around at the time.

Depending on how things go, we are very likely to cap EPC/AG before getting foundation (depending where is the bottleneck), so PLR and maybe AE will be the only arts we'll be training as well as base cultivation, depending on the status of FSS. Given we can't count on getting FVM+/SCS+/TRF+, that FSS+ is uncertain, and that we do need a new perception art, it's very important that by the time those are mastered we know exactly what arts to pick up if we can't get our most lauded successors.

Once we get to Foundation it's even worse, really, and we'll be feeling having under-levelled art.

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So right now, we would only get to see the first floor archive, while presumably there are higher floors. So not only would taking Archive actions now be frontloading something that we won't need for the better part of a year, but we might not want to pick books from there at all!
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Sure, and that's why we want to research. If the archive can't get us what we want, it's better to know right now so that we can make decisions about what to do. "Better part of a year" is actually a bit less than half a year (13 months, remember?) and it's actually.. 6 turns. That's going to be really, really quick.

If the archive can procure something we want, and I suspect @yrsillar might let Ling Qi research what arts are available in superior floor even if she isn't able to pick any of them, then we need to know this quickly, as we have a lot of arts to change in a very tight time-frame.
 
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New thread...that I missed.:facepalm:


Random thought of the day: With her burgeoning paranoia, loyal posse, focus on buff/debuff/stealth, and social abilities, Qi is basically a very friendly Inquisitor.

It's hard to think of anything scarier than a friendly Inquisitor...
 
Atix said:
Btw DeAnno, I've been wondering for a while (I began reading mid-tournament arc), but when you people write "Inserted tally", do you have it published somewhere? Because I've seen quite a few similar posts at the end of Forge of Destiny (and here too) and rarely seen the numbers themselves. If yes, where can I see them?
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It's in the thread tool button on the top right. Click vote tally.
 
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