Metal Gear Solid V: Chronicles of Outer Heaven (MGS/Valkyria Chronicles)

Kept you waiting huh?

  • WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG!?

    Votes: 68 11.2%

  • SHUT UP AND LOOK OVER MY CHARACTER ALREADY!

    Votes: 10 1.7%

  • WELCOME BACK BOSS!

    Votes: 386 63.8%

  • BRING BACK THE CAT GIRLS ALREADY!

    Votes: 141 23.3%
  • Total voters
    605
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tapkomet said:
So people across the globe would cooperate to convince everyone that nukes are no longer needed as people are now to enlightened to wage global wars on each other, am I getting that right? That... doesn't sound to me like something that would ever work out, but I suppose it's very utopian.
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Well if it helps we'll be disappearing under suspicious circumstances even without the Patriots doing anything, which should serve as a useful spark.
Crafter of War said:
I'm going to start sounding like a broken record, but I'm still going to say it anyway.

Air. Every. Single. Gods. Damned. Dirty. Laundry. That the Federation and the Empire has.
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The fundamental issue is that there isn't an easy way to actually make everyone learn about all the naughty things they've been up to, and even if we did they're kinda in a situation where the existence of one justifies the existence of the other regardless of what they're up to in reality.
Whiskey Golf said:
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This means that we'd be recruiting and rescuing every Valkyria we could find, wouldn't it?

Ok, I can live with that.
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They're still people so more like check up on them regularly if they simply want to live a relatively normal life, and we conveniently have a functional education system to help them accomplish that in addition to keeping them around us to build bridges so that they know to contact the DD if something happens.
 
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1
[X] Side Ops 2: Check on Paz *New Game+*

You might want to set hard limits*, Kona, like a max amount of bonuses per update, before you become a glorified omake editor and get nothing at all done. I can already sense the burnout from here.

*the quality/length threshold is more of a soft limit IMO.
 
[x] PMC Ops 3: Kurdish Relief
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1

Statistics show that a noticeable number of Valkyria have issues... issues that make them perfect for Big Boss speeches. The rest of them retire to live on as regular retired people. Ta-da De-Valkyriaization (Safteying-Valks? what's a good term for avoiding giant blue death and calming down people who can wipe out army detachments. "Big Boss friendship strike?") is possible.
 
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[x] PMC Ops 3: Kurdish Relief
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1
 
Yun said:
Well if it helps we'll be disappearing under suspicious circumstances even without the Patriots doing anything, which should serve as a useful spark.
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(Somewhere at a rival mercenary group base, or maybe third world government)
- "Hey, you hear about that mercenary group that was extremely famous worldwide and had all the world leaders say how dangerous they probably are? Yeah, they disposed of their nuclear weapons, for better world and such, made a huge deal out of it, and then mysteriously vanished immediately after. What do you think happened to them?"
- "At a guess, someone launched an assault and wiped them out."
- "Weird coincidence this happened right after they disarmed, right?"
- "Yes. Coincidence. You know what we need so that doesn't happen to us? Nukes. More nukes. As many as possible. Hundreds of them! Also Metal Gears. That launch nukes."
 
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Yun said:
Well if it helps we'll be disappearing under suspicious circumstances even without the Patriots doing anything, which should serve as a useful spark.
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...I actually was not thinking of it but

Ishmael's reaction would be just. I have no words.

We're basically taking all nuke plans off the table, fucking off in a blaze of glory that would see the Legend of Big Boss echo into forever and taking all his friends with us.
 
Tbf, unless something super good happens in the results or Turn 2 posts, I'm tapped out.

...Wait never mind, cause if we do manage to recruit Sniper Wolf, I'm going to Omake The SHIT out of Quiet going full Big Sister on her.
 
tapkomet said:
(Somewhere at a rival mercenary group base, or maybe third world government)
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Hey, so, you've already repeatedly expressed your disagreement with the Denuclearization vote, and multiple posters have expressed their reasoning for it, and neither side looks like willing to budge on the issue.

Maybe just agree to disagree, and not post passive-aggressive snipey shit like this?
 
Crow said:
...I actually was not thinking of it but

Ishmael's reaction would be just. I have no words.

We're basically taking all nuke plans off the table, fucking off in a blaze of glory that would see the Legend of Big Boss echo into forever and taking all his friends with us.
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We'd also be completely ruining his chances of capitalizing on that because in the eyes of the world he would be seen as an impostor. How's that for irony John? Your phantom is a better you, so much so you are the phantom now.
 
Dream Logic said:
Also, given KK just compared this chain to The United States of Smash. Wow. That is the parting of All-Might in My Hero Academia. You know what they call him in that? The Symbol Of Peace! If nothing else we are almost certainly going to gain some incredible traits out of that.
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we aren't Big Boss

we are his Phantom

a false

yet

yet

we, the fake double went and do this

it must be one big slap to the face and a big mirror

he gonna be looking at himself and wondering how he become like this
 
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[X] PMC Ops 3: Kurdish Relief
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Aranfan on Oct 7, 2018 at 10:53 PM, finished with 1839 posts and 31 votes.
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LightMage said:
[x] PMC Ops 3: Kurdish Relief
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1

Statistics show that a noticeable number of Valkyria have issues... issues that make them perfect for Big Boss speeches. The rest of them retire to live on as regular retired people. Ta-da De-Valkyriaization (Safteying-Valks? what's a good term for avoiding giant blue death and calming down people who can wipe out army detachments. "Big Boss friendship strike?") is possible.
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How about "How Big Boss accidentally turned his pupil into a love freak, and/or Riela becomes the big sister to an orphanage."?
tapkomet said:
(Somewhere at a rival mercenary group base, or maybe third world government)
- "Hey, you hear about that mercenary group that was extremely famous worldwide and had all the world leaders say how dangerous they probably are? Yeah, they disposed of their nuclear weapons, for better world and such, made a huge deal out of it, and then mysteriously vanished immediately after. What do you think happened to them?"
- "At a guess, someone launched an assault and wiped them out."
- "Weird coincidence this happened right after they disarmed, right?"
- "Yes. Coincidence. You know what we need so that doesn't happen to us? Nukes. More nukes. As many as possible. Hundreds of them! Also Metal Gears. That launch nukes."
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You do realize that this is a setting where Big Boss become so targeted due to his fame that Ocelot basically prepared a plan that involved keeping Big Boss's best friend in a artificial coma until BB woke up simply to have a body double on hand? Like all Big Boss needs to do is announce he survived due to being away on a mission, and he'll basically have a large chunk of the world rallying to his cause out of sheer outrage as the dude has been publicly acknowledge to have saved the world from MAD at least once times iirc. Anyways let's agree to disagree.
Crow said:
...I actually was not thinking of it but

Ishmael's reaction would be just. I have no words.

We're basically taking all nuke plans off the table, fucking off in a blaze of glory that would see the Legend of Big Boss echo into forever and taking all his friends with us.
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Maybe he'll be able to turn his pain into action, and rally the world to overthrow the patriots? Like his mission in snake eater was public record iirc, and well he was trying to start a movement to avoid another situation like only to be stabbed in the back, which is going to make even more people than who were working with his phantom pissed.
 
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[X] PMC Ops 3: Kurdish Relief
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1

I know when I'm beaten. :V
 
Yun said:
They're still people so more like check up on them regularly if they simply want to live a relatively normal life, and we conveniently have a functional education system to help them accomplish that in addition to keeping them around us to build bridges so that they know to contact the DD if something happens.
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Well since we're establishing a school we could hire Welkin to be a schoolteacher, Isara to be a mechanic/R&D engineer, and Alicia to bake the best bread ever.

If they don't want to go back to their hometown of Bruhl, anyway. :V
 
[X] Side Ops 2: Check on Paz *New Game+*
[X] Side Ops 6: Denuclearization 1
 
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I've been thinking wouldn't denuclearization also benefit us recruit-wise since people would happily join the PMC that denuclearized the world.
 
Whiskey Golf said:
Well since we're establishing a school we could hire Welkin to be a schoolteacher, Isara to be a mechanic/R&D engineer, and Alicia to bake the best bread ever.

If they don't want to go back to their hometown of Bruhl, anyway. :V
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Well the entire reason Isara wanted to make an airplane is to fulfill Wekin's idle musing over what it would be like to fly through the air like a bird iirc. Although I doubt Welkin will be particularly enthusiastic to stay on a military base as it would remind him of the war, and there aren't any animals, or natural landmarks for him to be enthusiastic over. Well technically if we picked the animal action there would be, but they'd still lack their native environment.
 
Tinkerer said:
We'd also be completely ruining his chances of capitalizing on that because in the eyes of the world he would be seen as an impostor. How's that for irony John? Your phantom is a better you, so much so you are the phantom now.
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To steal a line from another place, another time... "There is no rule that a fake cannot surpass the original."
But I'd argue that Big Boss isn't just a person anymore, he became an idea, an icon, during MSF (Peace Walker). You can't prove you've killed Big Boss... because Big Boss cannot be killed, people won't accept it. As long as you can reach that place... you are Big Boss.

"Big Boss can't be dead, that must be someone else."

"Hey did you hear, Big Boss just stopped an entire terrorist attack all by himself."
"SEE, Told you Big Boss wasn't dead."
 
tapkomet said:
Did you just tell me to not overthink a quest?! But that's why people come to these quests, is it not?
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Er under the circumstances yes?

I personally disagree with the vote as a cynic but since the games have anti-nuclear themes, votes had Snake being a hero and there's the unreleased world free of nukes scene in phantom pain then it's a given for people to vote for it.

It deprives us of a military asset sure. But even in the game it doesn't do much besides giving lots of demon points and base raid bait.
 
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