Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[] Who's Holly?
Ignition (MTG/Multicross, Planeswalker PC)
- Thread starter Alivaril
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- fairy tail magi: the labyrinth of magic magic the gathering magical girl lyrical nanoha (magical girl) puella magi madoka magica rwby alternate universe spoilers unreliable narrator earned your happy middle feedback appreciated life slowly gets better metaknowledge is overrated never too much fire setting knowledge not required this can only end well what could possibly go wrong?
- Location
- A Table Near You
No, Neph, you are the part of Jade's soul that got granted root-level access to @Alivaril's notes. Also, spoiler warning, geez.
Anyway, Neph: best channeling overlay, or best channeling overlay?
Need some time to process all of that and think of worthwhile questions. We probably want to use the questions on important stuff, given the sheer level of bullshit on display here.
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No need to do this. While we did want them to know how to cure it on their own, we did already show them the slow way, and I have no objection to what Neph did to speed it up. If the mages of the place that is basically Mage Heaven are any good they'll be able to pick it apart.
Hm, questions...
Is it just memory?
Like, let's presume other timelines exist.
Is Neph "our Neph" or "the Neph"? Because if she's the only Neph then she might be able to draw on worship, lands, unfrozen planes, etc, from other timelines. And that breaks pretty much the moment she figures out she can do it.
Like, let's presume other timelines exist.
Is Neph "our Neph" or "the Neph"? Because if she's the only Neph then she might be able to draw on worship, lands, unfrozen planes, etc, from other timelines. And that breaks pretty much the moment she figures out she can do it.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Wow, there is a lot to unpack here. It's funny being on the other end of it!
The things that immediately jumped out at me on the first pass that I already have thoughts about:
...I still want to meet them.
The things that immediately jumped out at me on the first pass that I already have thoughts about:
Nice that Indira might actually be interested in pursuing a familial relationship for reasons beyond amassing power. We'll still have to be careful when dealing with her, but we can be cautiously optimistic about the outcome.
If we can figure out how to obviously draw power from a star before this, that might be enough of a demonstration? Recovering one of the lost battleships capable of recognising us as Empress would be nice.
Maybe we can just drop in, dig down enough to grab some samples for Agneyastra to look into incorporating into our Vessels, and leave again?
Eeewwww.
...I still want to meet them.
Basically, Neph is a spam filter on our precog. Sucks to be her.
edit: Also, precog goes as far as a year.
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- Location
- ireland
I just realised that neph is an prosudo oldwalker
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Improperly Ground in the Sun?
The nice thing is we can go precognitive at will now. Costly, but if we have one question that's worth 9 mana we just pop it off and get a fairly good answer. Honestly not that much mana these days given that linker core is better for emergency than mana magic. Not for immediate crisis situations but quite good otherwise.
That also means that our questions don't really have to be the "best" we can ask in this situation. We have about 25 days until first emergency we know about, that means long term stuff like "Who's Holly?" can wait because even if we do this only half the days we can still answer 14 more questions.
That also means that our questions don't really have to be the "best" we can ask in this situation. We have about 25 days until first emergency we know about, that means long term stuff like "Who's Holly?" can wait because even if we do this only half the days we can still answer 14 more questions.
Looks like it was some form of precognition. Some of it is kind of obvious, but it's good to get confirmation. And it looks like we do want to work on healing and red overchanneling.
Maybe she can specify which ones? Some of them seemed alright from what I remember. One of them is totally Arjuna, right? Even from secondhand information, he gives off that vibe.
Maybe she can specify which ones? Some of them seemed alright from what I remember. One of them is totally Arjuna, right? Even from secondhand information, he gives off that vibe.
So, immediate things, then:
[] Who's the best person to talk to about Djinn magic in the next 2 weeks?
[] If we wanted to fix Mitra's access/avatar problems where do we go?
[] Any low-hanging fruit on the King-Selection plane?
[] Who's the best person to talk to about Djinn magic in the next 2 weeks?
[] If we wanted to fix Mitra's access/avatar problems where do we go?
[] Any low-hanging fruit on the King-Selection plane?
If we somehow don't have control of the Agni battlecruiser after the JS incident, maybe Indira would appreciate it as a gift? I honestly think it being in her control is better than it sitting derelict for god knows what to happen. Jail already proved what a bad idea that is when he took control of it.
The part of me that loves awkward angst and drama wants to see those Nanoha date aftermath memories. Neph is cheat mode for relationships and that's great.
The part of me that loves awkward angst and drama wants to see those Nanoha date aftermath memories. Neph is cheat mode for relationships and that's great.
I do basically trust that Neph is Jade + a year of memories from a lot of sources.
The question of if we can trust what Neph says depends a lot on can we trust Neph's principles, but like, think about that a bit. How far would a year of Jades be from the Jade we know? It's definitely plausible that there are Jades who bought fully into early-quest Agneyastra logic or rather just went with the flow since her will to contest things needed a lot of work early on. It's plausible that there are Jades who delved too much into reckless channeling or overchanneling and that led to an overly reckless personality. It's plausible that there are Jades who were much less lucky - no Agneyastra, didn't figure out how to free her, didn't manage to make friends, and so on, who might be in a worse place mentally or at a lower-power point like working as a translator in TSAB space or something. But those might not affect Neph as much since she does know what the best-case is.
There aren't going to be Jades who went fully evil and started massacring or sacrificing people, though. Not unless they were fully mind-controlled, and Neph implies she doesn't have access to those. So I'm actually pretty on-board with trusting Neph to be mostly like us except maybe more reckless at times, maybe more or less confident at times, maybe a little more willing to embrace the "most efficient" route since she has an idea what that might be. Basically, a Jade that needs a bit of temperament to be reasonably effective as an adviser, less "apply hammer to problem" than Agneyastra, more than our Jade.
[X] Spend the time telling Neph how that was not in any way, shape, or form the "slow method" of healing.
[X] Does the 'Be a celebrity' approach never work, or is it just somewhat less reliable?
[X] Who's the best person to talk to about Djinn magic in the next 2 weeks?
[X] If we wanted to help out Mitra's various problems how would we do it?
[X] Any low-hanging fruit on the King-Selection plane?
[X] Does the 'Be a celebrity' approach never work, or is it just somewhat less reliable?
[X] Who's the best person to talk to about Djinn magic in the next 2 weeks?
[X] If we wanted to help out Mitra's various problems how would we do it?
[X] Any low-hanging fruit on the King-Selection plane?
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- Location
- West Michigan
Worst-case scenario, we pull a TTGL Prologue and accidentally prevent a scene that we precogged from actually taking place.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Also, Neph appears to have trouble keeping track of what timeline she's talking to us in. She cannot, for instance, readily remember whether we ran from Calypso or not. So most of her useful advice is useful in statistical terms.
If Indira is as Neph describes, I think we want to avoid giving her more power and assets, because she's likely to abuse them, or to parlay them into the means to pose to force us into a subordinate role.
Fortunately, Neph's knowledge seems to be the product of a weighted average of many many potential future outcomes, rather than having just seen "the future" of the specific actions we are now carrying out. For instance, she is aware of many possible outcomes in which we dealt with Calypso differently, not just the one we actually took (going Magical Girl to transform away her magic control earrings and legging it out of the universe where she couldn't follow).
Thus, Neph isn't giving us specific advice on what will happen, but rather on what will most likely happen, plus certain "surprises" that will predictably be sprung on us whether we like it or not. Her advice is best interpreted in statistical terms, like "don't date Nanoha right now, it ends badly 89% of the time."
I'm actually very happy to meet Neph.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Nah worst case we do something the qm hasnt foreseen and all the prophecy based planning falls apart.Worst-case scenario, we pull a TTGL Prologue and accidentally prevent a scene that we precogged from actually taking place.
[X] Why is she so Red? It might be your primary colour but you are planning on achieving at least decent skill in in the other colours.
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Serious answer: I'm experienced enough to know I'm not omniscient, thanks. Don't worry about that/me.
Silly answer: Ah, but your QM has foreseen you doing things he hasn't foreseen and has planned accordingly.
Madou Sutegobana
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- Location
- Twin Realms Mandala
I thought we were informed the majority of them are fakers.
So Jade has a super powered alter ego, that is an aspect of her divinity, and is primarily associated with a particular color on the spectrum as well as a different 'voice'.
We should ask Agneyastra if she would design a game console/altar incorporating Agni tech and dub it the 'Nephricom 1'.
Maybe she's just Red at Heart?
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
They're "fakers" in the sense of being branch family members while claiming to be full Agni.
[X] Who's the best person to talk to about Djinn magic in the next 2 weeks?
[X] If we wanted to help out Mitra's various problems how would we do it?
[X] Any low-hanging fruit on the King-Selection plane?
First question: important because it's one of the reasons we're on this plane in the first place. Will help Agneyastra in understanding her abilities and the safety of Unison, and searching for a person isn't something we can do easily. Might make a friend.
Second question: has a bunch of technical or "go here grab this" parts to it but also asking for social advice too, may be involved on this plane if grabbing a Djinn power would help.
Third question: immediately relevant, might be fun for Nanoha, I don't really care too much if it doesn't get answered though.
I want to ask questions that are immediately relevant because despite the 9R cost we can still summon up Neph for a single question easily enough, so the things we ask today should be things we want to know today.
[X] If we wanted to help out Mitra's various problems how would we do it?
[X] Any low-hanging fruit on the King-Selection plane?
First question: important because it's one of the reasons we're on this plane in the first place. Will help Agneyastra in understanding her abilities and the safety of Unison, and searching for a person isn't something we can do easily. Might make a friend.
Second question: has a bunch of technical or "go here grab this" parts to it but also asking for social advice too, may be involved on this plane if grabbing a Djinn power would help.
Third question: immediately relevant, might be fun for Nanoha, I don't really care too much if it doesn't get answered though.
I want to ask questions that are immediately relevant because despite the 9R cost we can still summon up Neph for a single question easily enough, so the things we ask today should be things we want to know today.
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- Location
- Bowling Green
[X] Would other color Overchanneling be bad for our health?
Because she has probably seen a Jade try this, and it could be useful in the future.
[X] If we wanted to help out Mitra's various problems how would we do it?
Mitra needs the help, and it should be quick enough that Neph could tell us how.
[X] Any interesting casualties if we practice Red Overchanneling?
I want to know.
Because she has probably seen a Jade try this, and it could be useful in the future.
[X] If we wanted to help out Mitra's various problems how would we do it?
Mitra needs the help, and it should be quick enough that Neph could tell us how.
[X] Any interesting casualties if we practice Red Overchanneling?
I want to know.
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