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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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stsword said:
Yes, seems to be the Hat, or his dimensional doppelganger anyway. Not a dragon though, an elemental demon of earth I believe. Or at least he's been described as an earth elemental by some sources, and a demon in others, so I just figure split the difference.
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Simon Buchan said:
So the Harmonious One is the local equivalent of Constantine, right?
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More likely The Hat - chaos magic and hat pretty much gives it away. That's not to say that he isn't Constantine's analogue in this universe, though.
But seriously, calling a Lord of Chaos "The Harmonious One" is some next level irony.
 
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While this new stuff is.. Interesting its just to confusing to follow along. Hopefully its just a parallel time timline rather than a permenant timeline and we will get back to the normal timeline eventually
 
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GilliamYaeger said:
Now I really hope that we're getting a crossover between this Paul and 'mainline' Paul, mostly because the main difference between them seems to be that Chinapaul never encountered the Ophidian and thus weaned himself off Orange light, and him being horrified at how alien Enlightenpaul has become is something I am very, VERY interested in seeing.
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That would actually be VERY interesting. It could be just the thing that forces another evolution of Paragon-Paul's character, his methods, his powerset, etc. when he realizes that he is more and more dependent on the orange light.


Also, I really like this segment. While I was kind of hesitant at the beginning, I enjoyed the last post a lot. There was more dialogue and character-interaction. Nothing of it was used for exposition (exposition was in fact subtly, to my untrained, fairly undiscerning mind) or cluttered describing RTS-tactics or the subtle nuances of an old card-game.

Gosh, I am being passive aggressive without meaning to. What I am trying to say is, I like this stuff a lot and the last chapter was a good example for what I liked.
 
sainen said:
personally I'm thinking some sort of Soul/existence/mind resonance is going on between two Pauls, that or like the earlier section our Paul is viewing this paul's life.
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Possible I suppose. But I'm under the impression that Ambush bug's powers are more in line with reality warping, whereas this is time travel.

It would be interesting if someone from this timeline got pulled into the main OL one. I doubt it would be another Paul himself, but we're only a few shots in so we'll see who else gets introduced.
 
Maxx Crowley said:
Possible I suppose. But I'm under the impression that Ambush bug's powers are more in line with reality warping, whereas this is time travel.

It would be interesting if someone from this timeline got pulled into the main OL one. I doubt it would be another Paul himself, but we're only a few shots in so we'll see who else gets introduced.
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I was thinking the same thing. First thought was the green lantern Jade, but now this Harmonious One would be rather fun....
 
I like how this Paul comes off as more human compared to Paragon and Renegade. It provides an interesting contrast to how our regular Pauls have been acting so far. Then again, it's been 3(4?) chapters, so this Paul could be fucked up in his own way too.

It's still hard to be invested in this storyline tho. Im pretty much forcing myself not to skim the last few chapters.
 
MrCogmor said:
SJW is meant to refer to people that take social activism to nonsensical extremes and get outraged over nonexistent or insignificant problems. The people that take the idea of white privilege and just use it to justify being a dick online. A lot of more radical/extreme right wingers do use it as an insult against the more socially liberal but likewise a lot of more radical/extreme left wingers also misuse the words 'racist','sexist' and 'fascist' when describing more conservative positions.
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That may be how it started off, but I've LITERALLY only ever seen it used disparagingly as a blanket term to mean someone with a viewpoint/position that conflicts with the speaker's- I'm pretty sure it no longer means anything at this point given how (mis) used it is-
Plus it makes absolutely no sense as an insult logically- how is implying someone's dedicated to fighting for their beliefs/ bettering society meant to be a bloody insult anyway!?! I mean, I could see a Grey lantern throwing the term around, like, if they could even work up the enthusiasm...
 
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CultusImperialis said:
I am deeply lost. Does this chapter come with a flow chart or some mandatory background reading or something?
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This is one of those ones that would only make sense at the end of the episode perhaps, so it's probably better to tune in then. The daily update slows down what information that Zoat can present to us in one sitting. The canon mind simulation episode would have probably been equally frustrating if we could only watch two minutes of the episode at a time, each day, for nearly a month.
 
CultusImperialis said:
I am deeply lost. Does this chapter episode come with a flow chart or some mandatory background reading or something?
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Basically, something's weird about the timeline, both in-story and in the way Zoat is choosing to post each snippet. In-story, we still don't know if this is our Paul displaced in time, or a different Paul altogether. Either way, this timeline is a world that's been dominated by China for centuries, which logically has displaced nearly everything we know about standard DC except for interstellar stuff like the Lantern Corps and the Reach. Out-of-universe, for some reason Zoat is posting these chronologically out of order: read 3, 4, 1, 2, and 5 to get the chronological experience.
 
Gantradies said:
Plus it makes absolutely no sense as an insult logically- how is implying someone's dedicated to fighting for their beliefs/ bettering society meant to be a bloody insult anyway!?!
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The idea is, very specifically, intended to be ironic. It came up as an insult, just like "Oh, you're a real social justice warrior, aren't you, crying on the internet over white privilege" or whatever, and it evolved from there.

Honestly, it doesn't really bother me, the horseshoe nature of politics means that everyone who uses dogma without analyzing their beliefs and their effects on others is kinda a shitty person.
 
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Gantradies said:
That may be how it started off, but I've LITERALLY only ever seen it used disparagingly as a blanket term to mean someone with a viewpoint/position that conflicts with the speaker's- I'm pretty sure it no longer means anything at this point given how (mis) used it is-
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I've seen it used both ways - to refer to overreacting jerks and/or idiots, whom other liberals (like me on many issues) would prefer not to have associated with us, and to mock liberal viewpoints in general; I've mostly seen it used as the former, though. It's probably a matter of seeing arguments in different locations.
 
Maxx Crowley said:
I mean, if you send him through time, he should still be the same guy right? Unless the Pauls have somehow merged.
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I think what we're seeing here is evidence that even though he was sent through time, he WASN'T insulated from changes to the timeline. Perhaps it means that because he was absent, a DIFFERENT time traveller changed the past and so even if he was insulated from the effects of his OWN changes he's not insulated from THOSE.


Norgarth said:
o_O are American SJW obsessed with taking offense for any word that is non-generic? Are these people from Southeast Asia that are upset at the word, or is it Americans who have decided for Southeast Asians that it's a 'bad word'?
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Gantradies said:
That may be how it started off, but I've LITERALLY only ever seen it used disparagingly as a blanket term to mean someone with a viewpoint/position that conflicts with the speaker's- I'm pretty sure it no longer means anything at this point given how (mis) used it is-
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Prince Charon said:
I've seen it used both ways - to refer to overreacting jerks and/or idiots, whom other liberals (like me on many issues) would prefer not to have associated with us, and to mock liberal viewpoints in general; I've mostly seen it used as the former, though. It's probably a matter of seeing arguments in different locations.
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I've only ever seen it used in the overreactionary sense, although there are plenty of people that are quick to label someone as overreactionary for things that really aren't, just as there are people on the other side that are quick to label someone as a fascist just for having some right-wing beliefs. It's not meant to be an ironic usage or hyperbole; in my experience, the speaker ACTUALLY BELIEVES it, and they're just wrong.
 
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ill self correct-ive seen it be used non-hyperbolicly twice, and one of them was involving a derranged musician >.< the..err. Alex mauer thing a while back.err. MOVING ON!
*coughs* anyyyway, im finding this arc INTERESTING from a worldbuidling point,but its hard to get really interested in specific characters when there's an EXTREMELY high chance they'll either never show up again after, or get consigned to the abyss beyond time (fucking chrono cross turning some of my favourite childhood memories into an unending cavalcade of guilt and existential horror/accidental genocide)if/when OL either manages to break free, or someone who displaced before the disruptions to the timeline caught up reaches him...
 
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