RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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Would those readers who are having an increasingly easier time understanding his thought processes count as eldritch?
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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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-Asking for a friend.
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I think it's pretty clear what Earth that I'm talking about, and we are talking about the same one. The classifications actually used in the comics or from DC or from fans are, honestly, ridiculous.
"Which Earth-1 are we talking about?"
"Is this the one where we spell out the word or use the numbers?"
"I dont know; did a Superboy clone punch reality recently, or did Barry stick his dick in the timeline?"
"Superboy punched Barry's dick into the timeline."
"Ouch. No wonder everything's so messed up."
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... hey, @Maxx Crowley ?
Thought of doing a MA Q&A/ info thread or something similar? Could see one becoming quite popular/useful,both for authors and general reading, and you're clearly more knowledgeable than the vast majority...
Thought of doing a MA Q&A/ info thread or something similar? Could see one becoming quite popular/useful,both for authors and general reading, and you're clearly more knowledgeable than the vast majority...
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I have not. Was not aware that, that was a thing or that anyone would be interested.
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Oh please the guy was a wimp.
In one episode his horse defeated the bad guys and was destroying their base.
Then Bravestar had to go and stop his horse... and didn't even ask the bad guys to willingly go to jail in exchange.
Darn, eighties cartoons were weird.
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It could be!
Err, a thing I mean, and judging by the many "informative"'s you keep getting there would be at least 10 people intrested- I actually got baited into following a Kanti collection fanfic by all the intreiguing little nuggets of obscured history/ trivia people were dropping...
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I'm not against the idea, and I'm certainly willing to help. It's just that I haven't thought of posting anything to these forums. The only thing I read on them is WTR after all.
That and I find that I'm generally better at answering questions then writing essays. But if there was interest I suppose I could try. I admit, I really don't understand how these boards work.
Hestia&theCourt
Turns out we're plural too.
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Are you... sure you posted in the right thread?
They did, because Marshal Bravestar was the example Zoat used of a magic user creating a work around against Paul's scry wards. They just didn't quote his post for some reason.
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RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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"For some reason", The reason was pretty clearly "Fuck You That's Why."
Pursuant (part 14)
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21st October
21:03 GMT -6
"This is gunna be sweet!"
Wallace is grinning as we wait patiently in an unmarked van for the attack order.
Kaldur nods, though his smile is more subtle. "It is good to have you with us once more. Is your presence likely to be ongoing?"
"That's.. up to Batman. I got him the magic users he asked for, but he appeared to take… My methods a little personally."
"No." Wallace blinks. "I mean, yeah, having Oh El back is great and all, but I meant fighting time traveling Nazi assassins who fought the Justice Society."
Beryl yawns into her coffee, then takes a glug. "Not Nazis. Fascists. These ones blame aliens for everything instead of Jews, gypsies and sane people."
"Fine. Time traveling fascists who fought the Justice Society."
"How.. worried do we need to be about the time travel?" M'gann looks around the van's interior. "I mean, unless they can get to Mars in the future I'm pretty safe, but can they just time travel into your bedrooms when you were little?"
Wallace smiles smugly at me. "I dunno. That's why some of us have secret identities."
"Wallly."
"No, he's got a point. Hunter certainly isn't Mister Hunter's real name. But I wasn't ever a baby on this Earth, so I'm probably safe." My eyes turn a little awkwardly towards Kaldur.
"I am not worried for myself. It would be difficult for an outsider to locate a particular home in Atlantis, to say nothing of the difficulty a surface worlder would have in operating under water."
We all look at Beryl.
"Are we even sure paradoxes are possible? If they only try to kill me because I tried to stop them, why did they kill me if I never existed to try and stop them?"
"Supervillains." / "Supervillains." / "Because-. Yeah."
"Mister Hunter said that travelling in time makes you resistant to causality. If these people are time travellers rather than local hirelings, they won't necessarily be able to chronoshift out of the-."
Wallace shakes his head. "Chronowhat?"
"Ah. Use short bursts of time travel. Giving people better guns makes sense. Giving them time travel creates risks, particularly if you're using local electricity grids to power them."
Kaldur nods. "And not merely risks of detection. People they recruit from this time period are unlikely to share their particular ideology. They might well decide to simply take their equipment and then leave."
"I dunno." Wallace frowns. "If they've been here since the fifties then they've probably converted some people. I mean, we've fought actual Nazis twice now and the Nazis lost the Second World War. These guys win the future."
Beryl nods. "Am I the only one finding it strange that a time travelling hero wants to change the future?"
Kaldur raises his right eyebrow. "What surprises you about that?"
"I always thought that a hero would be the one trying to keep things as they are."
"Earth gets huge chunks of its population killed by the Reach, then gets unified under a fascist. If I had a time machine, I'd try to prevent that."
"Except we don't know that happens, do we?" She takes another sip of coffee. "Our only information sources are Nylor Truggs and Abra Kadabra."
"Who both said the same thing. And Kadabra had heard of Per Degaton."
Kaldur shrugs. "Whether their foreknowledge is entirely trustworthy or not, we have a syndicate of assassins to apprehend. Squire, any word from Batman?"
She brings up her arm computer for a moment. "Nope. Nothing yet."
Mister Hunter was a little disturbed to learn that some of his future information was no longer accurate. He didn't know that the League of Shadows was no longer active, and several of the sites he suggested we investigate didn't show any sign of illegal usage. But there were enough signs of recent usage that the team is being deployed along with the League to some of the more important sites.
"I haven't really been watching television. How's the whole 'angel' thing been playing?"
Beryl shrugs. "A lot of people using a lot of words to say nothing. Your interview wasn't exactly informative." Her eyes narrow slightly. "Which.. was intentional. When's the follow-up?"
"Sunday. And they'll be putting me on with people who'll be asking slightly more searching questions."
"You, ah..?" Wallace looks at me curiously. "You actually going to tell them what sort of fruit it was? Because breaking into Eden-"
"I didn't actually break-"
"-and taking a fruit-"
"-into Eden."
"-is a li-ttle more serious than taking some random fruit."
"That partly depends on whether Ms Blaze has shown any sign of understanding theurgy. If she does, I'll ask her to come on with me and I imagine that will set people's minds…" Wallace and Beryl glance at each other. "At ease. What?"
"A-ah…" Wallace grimaces. "Look… You don't think people who've been Christians or.. Jews or whatever their whole lives aren't gunna.. have a hard time with the fact that you've had more angel face time than they have?"
"Wallace, you don't need an invitation to visit KordTech. If you want some face time just-."
"No, not-. I mean, yeah, I probably will. But you've had more contact with an agent of God than anyone."
"Actually… Zauriel pretty much said that they usually stay invisible."
Kaldur seems less than impressed. "It would have been helpful if they had been a little more visible when demons overran Fawcett City."
"Kaldur, I stole a single pomegranate. While I could try taking the Silver City to task for their serial absenteeism, it seems to me that would generate.. more heat than light. Hopefully when Zauriel comes back we can-."
"Batman to team."
Beryl raises her arm again, inadvertently throwing her coffee across the van floor and then mouthing obscenities to herself. The rest of us come to a sort of seated attention, locking eyes on the screen.
"Doctor Mist confirms that Eliminations, Inc technology is only weakly resistant to magic. However, their technology interferes with all other forms of detection. We will not be able to get a good read on either the layout or the garrison until the attack begins. Call out weapons and defensive technologies as you see them."
We all nod, though on this sort of broadcast he can't see us.
"Proceed with the attack. Batman out."
21:03 GMT -6
"This is gunna be sweet!"
Wallace is grinning as we wait patiently in an unmarked van for the attack order.
Kaldur nods, though his smile is more subtle. "It is good to have you with us once more. Is your presence likely to be ongoing?"
"That's.. up to Batman. I got him the magic users he asked for, but he appeared to take… My methods a little personally."
"No." Wallace blinks. "I mean, yeah, having Oh El back is great and all, but I meant fighting time traveling Nazi assassins who fought the Justice Society."
Beryl yawns into her coffee, then takes a glug. "Not Nazis. Fascists. These ones blame aliens for everything instead of Jews, gypsies and sane people."
"Fine. Time traveling fascists who fought the Justice Society."
"How.. worried do we need to be about the time travel?" M'gann looks around the van's interior. "I mean, unless they can get to Mars in the future I'm pretty safe, but can they just time travel into your bedrooms when you were little?"
Wallace smiles smugly at me. "I dunno. That's why some of us have secret identities."
"Wallly."
"No, he's got a point. Hunter certainly isn't Mister Hunter's real name. But I wasn't ever a baby on this Earth, so I'm probably safe." My eyes turn a little awkwardly towards Kaldur.
"I am not worried for myself. It would be difficult for an outsider to locate a particular home in Atlantis, to say nothing of the difficulty a surface worlder would have in operating under water."
We all look at Beryl.
"Are we even sure paradoxes are possible? If they only try to kill me because I tried to stop them, why did they kill me if I never existed to try and stop them?"
"Supervillains." / "Supervillains." / "Because-. Yeah."
"Mister Hunter said that travelling in time makes you resistant to causality. If these people are time travellers rather than local hirelings, they won't necessarily be able to chronoshift out of the-."
Wallace shakes his head. "Chronowhat?"
"Ah. Use short bursts of time travel. Giving people better guns makes sense. Giving them time travel creates risks, particularly if you're using local electricity grids to power them."
Kaldur nods. "And not merely risks of detection. People they recruit from this time period are unlikely to share their particular ideology. They might well decide to simply take their equipment and then leave."
"I dunno." Wallace frowns. "If they've been here since the fifties then they've probably converted some people. I mean, we've fought actual Nazis twice now and the Nazis lost the Second World War. These guys win the future."
Beryl nods. "Am I the only one finding it strange that a time travelling hero wants to change the future?"
Kaldur raises his right eyebrow. "What surprises you about that?"
"I always thought that a hero would be the one trying to keep things as they are."
"Earth gets huge chunks of its population killed by the Reach, then gets unified under a fascist. If I had a time machine, I'd try to prevent that."
"Except we don't know that happens, do we?" She takes another sip of coffee. "Our only information sources are Nylor Truggs and Abra Kadabra."
"Who both said the same thing. And Kadabra had heard of Per Degaton."
Kaldur shrugs. "Whether their foreknowledge is entirely trustworthy or not, we have a syndicate of assassins to apprehend. Squire, any word from Batman?"
She brings up her arm computer for a moment. "Nope. Nothing yet."
Mister Hunter was a little disturbed to learn that some of his future information was no longer accurate. He didn't know that the League of Shadows was no longer active, and several of the sites he suggested we investigate didn't show any sign of illegal usage. But there were enough signs of recent usage that the team is being deployed along with the League to some of the more important sites.
"I haven't really been watching television. How's the whole 'angel' thing been playing?"
Beryl shrugs. "A lot of people using a lot of words to say nothing. Your interview wasn't exactly informative." Her eyes narrow slightly. "Which.. was intentional. When's the follow-up?"
"Sunday. And they'll be putting me on with people who'll be asking slightly more searching questions."
"You, ah..?" Wallace looks at me curiously. "You actually going to tell them what sort of fruit it was? Because breaking into Eden-"
"I didn't actually break-"
"-and taking a fruit-"
"-into Eden."
"-is a li-ttle more serious than taking some random fruit."
"That partly depends on whether Ms Blaze has shown any sign of understanding theurgy. If she does, I'll ask her to come on with me and I imagine that will set people's minds…" Wallace and Beryl glance at each other. "At ease. What?"
"A-ah…" Wallace grimaces. "Look… You don't think people who've been Christians or.. Jews or whatever their whole lives aren't gunna.. have a hard time with the fact that you've had more angel face time than they have?"
"Wallace, you don't need an invitation to visit KordTech. If you want some face time just-."
"No, not-. I mean, yeah, I probably will. But you've had more contact with an agent of God than anyone."
"Actually… Zauriel pretty much said that they usually stay invisible."
Kaldur seems less than impressed. "It would have been helpful if they had been a little more visible when demons overran Fawcett City."
"Kaldur, I stole a single pomegranate. While I could try taking the Silver City to task for their serial absenteeism, it seems to me that would generate.. more heat than light. Hopefully when Zauriel comes back we can-."
"Batman to team."
Beryl raises her arm again, inadvertently throwing her coffee across the van floor and then mouthing obscenities to herself. The rest of us come to a sort of seated attention, locking eyes on the screen.
"Doctor Mist confirms that Eliminations, Inc technology is only weakly resistant to magic. However, their technology interferes with all other forms of detection. We will not be able to get a good read on either the layout or the garrison until the attack begins. Call out weapons and defensive technologies as you see them."
We all nod, though on this sort of broadcast he can't see us.
"Proceed with the attack. Batman out."
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This seems a little sentence mixed up.
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I interpreted that as it not stopping other demons just seeing her and reporting her position.
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Thank you, corrected.
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Giving them?
Baladar
Mad Scientist in Training
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The band is back together!
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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He's had face time with a number of gods or their agents. A significant amount of the Greek Pantheon, an agent of Adom's gods (Adom himself), an agent of whatever the thing Johnny Sorow serves, and the First of the Fallen was an angel. Meeting Zauriel doesn't particularly stand out. Honestly, Diana is more closely associated with the Greek Pantheon than angels are with the Christian one, because Diana is either a demigoddess or a young titan, while the angels are servants.
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Don't forget that chaos thing Eris introduced him to. I think it was Delirium of the Endless? Not only meeting with Gods regularly, but Gods introducing him to higher powers.
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Thank you, corrected.
The Renegade isn't keeping tabs on Mars. Plenty is happening, he just doesn't know about it.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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I think you're mixing things up. Desire of the Endless briefly talked to Paulphidian, but I don't think the SI remembers that. Eris introduced him to Shivering Jenny (or something close to that) who is a chaos princess, which is apparently a higher tier than Lord of Chaos but we have no idea by how much. I didn't count her because 1. I didn't think of her, and 2. We have no clue how she compares to a deity.
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Right, Shivering Jemmy, thanks. Considering that a Greek God collapses from casual contact with her and looks on in fear when Paul very mildly banters with her, I'd say she's a Big Deal.
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The issue was other people's reactions to Paul interacting with their divinities. The people who worship the greek or bialyan religion would number in the thousands here. And aside from the Amazons, who in this story have actual interaction with their deities themselves so would not consider it a big deal, what Hellenist would know he interacts with the Greek gods?
And pretty much no one knows that Diana is a titan, because Wonder Woman's origin is the Pandora myth, and Pandora was a human and not a titan in Greek myth.
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Eh, I guess it doesn't matter.
That said since we were talking about possible narrative choices, I personally would have taken her comment to mean the Sigil of Warding was kind of of like a Spell Eater focused on absorbing/dispersing demonic energies directed her way. Hence the whole being destroyed if she ever returned to a place as saturated with those demonic energies as Hell. As a bonus this would have also created a limit for the Sigil of it only working against Demonic magics instead of having it no-sell all kinds of direct magic detection.
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