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Mattias doesn't use magic that is innately holy. Drawing upon the power of the Source directly would be theurgy, and his order currently has no one capable of performing it. What he does is use conventional magic techniques to manifest his own spiritual purity. That's why Sabbac was beaten back rather than annihilated.
Well, train more people to do that.
Pretty sure the Speedy situation has been resolved on both timelines, but with Grayven it was more like a side plot at best.
Without the proliferation of scry wards, getting Speedy would have consisted of scanning, transitioning, and then Grayven kicking the shit out of anyone stopping him from rescuing Speedy.
So Constantine's deal is to deal with Constantine? He counters himself?
You ever get that quest in Borderlands 2 where you're payed to kill yourself?
 
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So Constantine's deal is to deal with Constantine? He counters himself?
You ever get that quest in Borderlands 2 where you're payed to kill yourself?
That reminds me of the Vorkosigan novel Brothers In Arms, when Admiral Naismith (Miles pretending to be a clone of himself) is hired to kidnap Miles Vorkosigan (his actual identity), only to be secretly replaced by Mark Vorkosigan (who is an actual clone imposter Miles didn't know existed) created by Komarran terrorists. Culminating in a scene where Miles (pretending to be Naismith) and Mark (pretending to be Miles) trick a pair of Cetagandan officers into thinking that Miles and Naismith are two separate people.

If that sounds confusing, it was confusing for the people in the novel too...
 
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Resolution (part 19)
13th September
20:24 GMT +2


She actually twitches, then throws an accusing glance at Adom. His expression remains impassive. "Yes. And as much as I enjoyed being weak and powerless, I'd rather take my chances with Satanus-" She pronounces it the normal way. "-than become totally dependent on your good will."

"Ah, good; you don't need to corrupt souls to live, then."

"Heah. No, just to live for any length of time."

O-kay. I didn't know that was why she did it, but it was a reasonable suspicion. And one that works in my favour. "I ran into a Succubus called Chantinelle a little while ago, and she confirmed something I'd heard about Demons, but.. wasn't sure about. That they care about power but don't much care what form that power takes. She gladly accepted us turning her from a Demon of middle rank to a more powerful Elemental, even knowing that doing so would change her outlook quite considerably. But… You're Human as well." I smile. "And I know we Humans can be stubborn, spiteful bastards."

She regards me cautiously. "You want to offer me power of another sort?"

"The Justice League could not take a Demon. They need someone who can hard-counter Satanus when he's the de facto ruler of Hell. Other than conquering Hell for you, there's nothing I can do to make you that powerful using your current power source. And if I could conquer Hell-" Within a reasonable timeframe. "-then I wouldn't need you."

"The only power that would allow me to so completely defeat my brother would be that of the Silver City."

"Correct."

She rolls her eyes. "Foolish Human, they would never accept me."

I nod. "True. I doubt they'd accept me, and I'm far nicer than you are. But…"

I take an Angel feather round out of subspace and toss it to Adom. Blaze snatches it out of the air with her right hand before it reaches him- "Gaagh!" -and drops it at once, her hand visibly smoking. She glares at me, nursing her hand and crouching as if to lunge.

"I threw that to Teth Adom. If you caught it-" She grimaces, but calms herself. "-you've only yourself to blame."

Adom bends slightly and picks the round up. "This is what you used in Fawcett City."

"Yep. I try to keep them in reserve; Demons are the only target they excel against."

"Angel magic." Blaze takes a deep breath. "Powerful Angel magic. How did you come by it?"

"I'm friends with John Constantine. All sorts of things happen when he's around." She nods, rolling her eyes. "A few years ago, he went to an Angel to beg for healing. He had lung cancer, and that's a nasty way to die. The Angel told him that he was getting what he deserved, which… Wasn't a very New Testament attitude. So John remembered that, and when he thought that he could benefit from having an Angel on-call… The Angel in question had a bit of an accident involving a Succubus and a chainsaw."

"Gabriel."

"Unfortunately, John isn't quite as clever as he thinks he is. The First tracked down Gabriel's heart and destroyed it, sending him to Hell." I smile. "Minus…"

Her eyes widen slightly. "His wings."

"Yep. Want them?" I attach a filament to the round Adom's holding and send it back into subspace. "They're still.. sort of alive, and I've only taken a couple of feathers for my ammunition. The League couldn't take a Demon…"

"But they could take an Angel. Is that even possible?"

"My.. somewhat hazy knowledge of thaumaturgy says 'yes'. You would have to weaken your demonic aspect as much as possible, but your-" I smile. "-Human aspect was after all 'made in God's image'. We know that Humans can use divine theurgy. We just have to work out how to replace the structures of your soul with a form of energy that's totally hostile to what's there now. Assuming you're up for it."

She gazes off into the distance. "I would gain Gabriel's power."

"Possibly. At least some of it."

Her eyes narrow at me. "Why? Why would you offer this to me?"

"I square things with Batman, the League gets a magic user who can reliably trump Satanus, you become safe… And all those souls you have bound to your little demi-Hell get to leave, because there's no way you'll be able to combine those energies. And we get everything you know about Satanus." I nod my head to the side. "Or… Something goes wrong, you die and a thoroughly repugnant woman is expunged from the world." I smile. "So I come out ahead whatever happens. Really, I've got no reason not to make this offer."

"I could turn you down."

"Enjoy living in this room for the rest of your natural life. Because while I'm sure Teth Adom is willing to shelter you, I doubt that he'll feed you the souls you'd need to become strong enough to be safe under your own power."

Adom looks at her sternly. "You are correct in that assumption."

"And Satanus -and his allies- probably are going to get stronger. Good as this temple's defences are-"

Mister Bierce smirks. "Were."

"-they aren't perfect and Satanus will work out a way around them eventually. I did, and I can't even use magic myself. So you've got a decidedly limited amount of time to make a decision, and… Only one realistic option."

"Throw myself upon the mercy of the Justice League."

"Whether they accept you or not, the wings would give you the power to resist Satanus. And I don't need them to approve me giving you the wings."

She looks down as she considers. "Adom? Do you trust him?"

"Yes. Orange Lantern has a particular relationship with the concept of greed. He would not make you this offer if he did not believe that it would serve everyone's interests. And to Lord Zehuti's ears… It is a good trade for you."

She pauses for a couple of breaths, then raises her head. "Then I accept. How soon may we begin?"

"Working out exactly how to attach the wings to you will probably take a while. That's why I brought Mister Bierce with me. If the two of you can't work it out together, you can tell me what extra resources you need and I can procure them."

She nods, then fixes her eyes on me. "Do you have somewhere to hide me while we study how to perform the.. attachment?"

13th September
15:33 GMT -5


"Recognised, Orange Lantern, B Zero Six, Angelica Blaze, A Four Three."

I grin at my friends, my arms spread wide as I walk across the Mountain's training area to embrace them. "Guess who's baaaaaack?!"
 
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What ?

turning a Human/Demon Hybrid into a Human/Angel Hybrid or Human/Demon/Angel Hybrid

what is this, Nu-DMC
 
Extra space at the end there between the period and the orange quote. Also, there was literally no one better than this? Still not convinced that this was a smart plan of action.

Yeah agreed. She has no particular advantage in claiming the wings, so it doesn't really make any sense to give them to her when someone more, you know... Good could have been given them instead.
 
Extra space at the end there between the period and the orange quote. Also, there was literally no one better than this? Still not convinced that this was a smart plan of action.

Moving Blaze to literally the side of the Angels, not only empowers the side of good substantially, it also weakens the opposition.

There probably could be other magic users that would be better for the League, but thats not the sole criteria Paul is using. He is looking for optimal total *net-benefit.*

That, and she just seems like a terrible person overall

Its the DC-verse. Even angels can be dicks, but even they have to play by certain rules.
Its deeply ironic, that making her an angel is likely to be the best way to enforce her good behaviour.
 
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Moving Blaze to literally the side of the Angels, not only empowers the side of good substantially, it also weakens the opposition.

Aren't those two sides sort of fundamentally linked after that thing with Swamp Thing, Phantom Stranger, and the unfathomable primordial/pre-existence thing? (lemme find a link)

EDIT: Ah,no, I was misinterpreting that story.
 
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13th September
15:33 GMT -5


"Recognised, Orange Lantern, B Zero Six, Angelica Blaze, A Four Three."

I grin at my friends, my arms spread wide as I walk across the Mountain's training area to embrace them. "Guess who's baaaaaack?!"
So who decided to remove the Zeta tube security measures?
Also, there was literally no one better than this? Still not convinced that this was a smart plan of action.
Getting someone else would likely have been a better result for the League. Removing a Succubus and replacing them with a divine mage (theurgist I guess) seems to be a better result overall.

Edit: Ninja'ed, apparently.
 
No, the Renegade version of Roy 1 is still in a pod somewhere.

They're trying.


That makes no sense, finding original Roy after Clone Roy was revealed to be a clone should had taken Grayven no effort. Also the Light got rolled over and most of their facilities are under government occupation, Roy still being on a pod is unbelievable.

So the Wings of Gabriel are the chekhov gun. I thought their use was one, to be the source of the anti demon ammunition.
 
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