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Greyven keep doing so many paragon choice lately. I think it starts with getting the hard reset with anti-life, shoves crystal of love into his head, and continuous nagging from mother box. He should probably bring this mama somewhere else though since the other inferior Greyven might come and not appreciate the love from his mama.
Greyven keep doing so many paragon choice lately. I think it starts with getting the hard reset with anti-life, shoves crystal of love into his head, and continuous nagging from mother box. He should probably bring this mama somewhere else though since the other inferior Greyven might come and not appreciate the love from his mama.
Exactly -Paragon only gets the Paragon Interrupt flags for exceptionally Paragon decisions, while Renegade only gets Renegade Interrupts for exceptionally Renegade ones - like the "I spared you, and this is how you repay me?" moment here.
I hesitate as I step out of the shaft and onto the level of the Tower of Rage containing Father's throne room. Assuming that he hasn't moved since Father Box was last informed of the layout his actual chambers are elsewhere, but every so often he does actually hold court in the way Queen Hegra did. The difference being that she did it because she actually needed the support of her Elite retainers. Darkseid most assuredly does not. At a time like this I can't help but think of Lonnie Machin's confrontation with Darkseid, and that stupid Blasphemy demon, oh so subtly claiming the authority of God for itself and so undermining the very concept of God. Honestly, the whole thing was so obvious that it was somewhat puerile-.
I force myself to take another step, then another. See, not so hard. My 'escort' did their job. I certainly wasn't troubled on the way here and I-.
"…defy Prince Grayven's orders!"
I look around at the sound. Oh, who are they shouting at now? That is in the direction of Darkseid's chambers, but it isn't really on my way. Have they decided that my request also covers cleaning staff who happen to be in the same general area?
"The Master has ordered me to-."
"Silence. wretch!"
I hear a dull thump. So far, so Apokoliptian. I doubt that Father would be impressed to learn that I stuck my neck out for one of them-
-but then this whole exercise is about testing his boundaries, isn't it? I turn aside from my path and head in the direction of the sounds. Darkseid's actual quarters aren't all that large. They're the same ones that he had as Crown Prince Drax's younger and less favoured brother. I'm not completely sure why he didn't change. Perhaps stubbornness. More likely because he doesn't care any longer about trivial things like that.
Heh. I know where Darkseid shits.
"I-I was told to-."
"You dare to-."
"Alright, that's enough."
I step around the corner. A New God -a weak one by the feel of it- is laying on the floor, not daring to rise. Her skin is alabaster white and her hair raven black. She's wearing a purple and gold fifties swimsuit sort of garment, accessorised with purple and gold gloves which go up to the middle of her upper arm and similarly coloured thigh boots. A black and red… Cap? Headdress? Decorated with a golden skull has been knocked from her head and lays beside her on the floor. There's a purple choker around her neck with a red stone over her windpipe. Her eyes don't leave the floor and rich rivers of fear flow from her, but none of it is directed at her attackers.
The two aero-troopers back off, bowing to me as I approach the fallen woman. Mother Box, who is she? Her face looks familiar, but I can't quite place it.
Darkseid has absolutely no need for political marriage. The last woman anyone can remember him being intimate with was Tigra, and he hated her so much that when Justeen killed her he gave her a promotion. And yet, Grayven exists and gets recognised as being Darkseid's son. There are only so many places he could have come from.
I reach out to her with my right hand. "Mother."
I ignore the cringing and cowering of the aero-troopers to study her face as she turns her face upwards towards me. I can see what DeSaad was going for, and the facial structure is more or less there. But the ears are wrong, and-. She was Human?
"Grayven?"
I nearly say 'No, I'm Orion in disguise', but I think better of it. "Indeed. It's.. been a while. But it is good to see you again." I pointedly look at my hand and then back to her. "Will you take my hand?"
"Thank-thank you, my lord." She reaches up with her right hand-
Ping.
-which is the one that can cause sleep, and grasps my palm. Gently as I can, I help her upright. Now, what to do about the other two?
I don't look at them. "You buffoons have exceeded my orders and assaulted Father's bedmate while she was executing his. If you are dead before my meeting with him concludes I will not consider it necessary to inform him of that fact. Now, begone."
They bego and I take a purple healing ray projector from my armour and point it at Mortalla. "Hold still."
She holds completely still as I play the beam over her wounds. They don't heal as quickly as they would for a Human… Given that she's weak for a New God I imagine that's more to do with the presiding atmosphere of Apokolips instead of her innate resistance, but I don't know enough to be sure. Hm. I take my personal mana infuser off and offer it to her.
"Please, accept this as a gift. I'm sure that I've missed a few Mother's Days. It should make it a little harder for Father's thugs to-."
"You-." She gingerly touches her lip where it was bleeding as I lower the ray. "G-Grayven, you should not call him that. He does not like it when-."
"When Kalibak does it, yes. If I'd sired Kalibak, I doubt that I'd like being reminded of the fact either. I'm sure that if he had a problem with me doing so, he would have mentioned it during our last meeting."
"V-very well." She gingerly takes the mana infuser and holds it to her chest with both hands.
"It's… It's designed to be worn around your.. arm."
"Darkseid commissioned this for me." She crouches, picking up her headdress with her left hand and restoring it to its place upon her head. "I dare not modify it, save by his leave."
"Alright then. I'll ask him about it. Um. Are you alright.. here?"
"I-." Her eyes go to the floor again. "I am where he has bade me be."
Okay, well… It's not like I ever thought that I was the only one whose soul he'd crushed. Even if DeSaad did most of the legwork with this one. I go to turn away-
-and then turn back, bend down slightly and envelop her in my arms.
"It is good to see you again, Mother." "Consider yourself under my protection."
I think she might be trying to hug back, but she's under six foot tall and normally proportioned while I'm huge. Then I step back, smiling as friendly a smile as I can manage. Her smile is slight and hesitant, as if the muscles in her face were new to her. But it's there.
I turn away and head in the direction of Father's throne room.
In 40K Orks rebel by becoming extremely disciplined, following orders and not making trouble. Simply because to them that is contrary.
On Apokolipse Greyven takes a similar approach.
Hey @Mr Zoat I am making the Season 3 epub again
I am pretty much redoing it from scratch right now with so many posts having corrections thank to @ThrawnCA
go from 16:41 GMT+2 = 14:41 GMT
to 9:01 GMT-5 = 14:01 GMT so this one (and the rest of the updates on 2nd of September after it) need to be made an hour later
Which translates to the same day at 21:21 GMT.
If the above 2 updates have the same time does that mean that Earth 8096 is 4 hours and 27 minutes ahead.
If they are suppossed to be up to date then the renegade one must be later so at 21:45 GMT, but since I have no idea what you wanted to do I can't offer better corrections.
PS: Considering my question here, did something like that happen or was I mistaken?
Exactly -Paragon only gets the Paragon Interrupt flags for exceptionally Paragon decisions, while Renegade only gets Renegade Interrupts for exceptionally Renegade ones - like the "I spared you, and this is how you repay me?" moment here.
The way I described it, long long ago, is that these are specifically interrupts. If the character was already in the general line of reasoning that would have led to those actions, that wouldn't have been "interrupting" anything. An interrupt, whether paragon or renegade, has to be a decision that is specifically contrary to what would have otherwise happened. This is why the Paragon SI didn't get a Renegade interrupt flag when he killed the Praexis Demon that had eaten the portal:
But when Mr Zoat said it wasn't interrupting anything, it means that OL was never even thinking about a paragon solution. To be considered a renegade interrupt, the narrative would have had to emphasize that OL was going to do something paragon-like and then changed his mind.
In other words, what happened here was the default choice.
If OL had decided to SPARE the portal demon -- with a promise to himself to figure out how to fix it or at least to give it a chance to prove itself first -- that would have been a paragon interrupt.
Don't know. In the comics Grayven was an unacknowledged bastard whose mother was some unfortunate woman from one of the planets Darkseid conquered and promptly forgot about. Here Darkseid seems to actually know who Grayven is, acknowledges him as one of his sons and it seems Grayven was even raised on Apokolips. A very different origin from the comics version.
Hey @Mr Zoat I am making the Season 3 epub again
I am pretty much redoing it from scratch right now with so many posts having corrections thank to @ThrawnCA
go from 16:41 GMT+2 = 14:41 GMT
to 9:01 GMT-5 = 14:01 GMT so this one (and the rest of the updates on 2nd of September after it) need to be made an hour later
Yes. He really doesn't want to be going there, and he didn't want to force Darkseid to rush a response.
Finally these 2 have the same time:
But since one is a Paragon and the other is a renegade then it is fine however in between we have this one:
Which translates to the same day at 21:21 GMT.
If the above 2 updates have the same time does that mean that Earth 8096 is 4 hours and 27 minutes ahead.
If they are supposed to be up to date then the renegade one must be later so at 21:45 GMT, but since I have no idea what you wanted to do I can't offer better corrections.
Uummm what obvious reasons? Did something happen in the series, or did I miss something?
Edit: Also since the last time we had on omake chapter from another SI was in episode 26 with Blue!Paul does that mean we might meet this one too (Maybe with Grayven this time)? Or is this just a random SI that has no effect to the plot?
Also also since both DC and Marvel number their universes what connection do earths 16,-14, and 50 have with this one
Young Justice came out in November 2010. A:EMH came out in September 2010.
Edit: Also since the last time we had on omake chapter from another SI was in episode 26 with Blue!Paul does that mean we might meet this one too (Maybe with Grayven this time)? Or is this just a random SI that has no effect to the plot?
Umm what? What is Earth 692?
I mean what connection does Earth 8096 has with Earth 50,16 and -14
Is it on a different multiverse cluster or are the number part of the same cluster.
Like are their 2 Earth 50s, one the Justice Lords one and one in the Marvel universe (the listing here does not have any universes with that number but they should exist)
Edit:Also I am not doing Seasons 1 and 2 until @ThrawnCA finishes his second set of corrections since I would redo them completely now and again after he finishes (although there are probably less of them this go-aroung)
I mean what connection does Earth 8096 has with Earth 50,16 and -14
Is it on a different multiverse cluster or are the number part of the same cluster.
Like are their 2 Earth 50s, one the Justice Lords one and one in the Marvel universe (the listing here does not have any universes with that number but they should exist)
I guess that the Panoptichron just uses a different numbering system.
Edit:Also I am not doing Seasons 1 and 2 until @ThrawnCA finishes his second set of corrections since I would redo them completely now and again after he finishes (although there are probably less of them this go-aroung)
Given Hinon's complaints about "Earth Prime" not using standard universe numbering notation, it should really not be a surprise that different groups would have different means of labeling them.
In fact, it's inevitable that there would be more than one notation, in an infinite multiverse where inter-universal travel exists and is independently discovered in more than one of them. The only way this could NOT happen is if the labeling were somehow baked into the structure of the universe ("I've discovered a new universe, the tag on the collar says it's Earth 722") or if some powerful organization found a way to detect inter-universal travel (even in universes they haven't visited yet) and reached out to every civilization that discovers it to bring them into a group.
Given Hinon's complaints about "Earth Prime" not using standard universe numbering notation, it should really not be a surprise that different groups would have different means of labeling them.
In fact, it's inevitable that there would be more than one notation, in an infinite multiverse where inter-universal travel exists and is independently discovered in more than one of them. The only way this could NOT happen is if the labeling were somehow baked into the structure of the universe ("I've discovered a new universe, the tag on the collar says it's Earth 722") or if some powerful organization found a way to detect inter-universal travel (even in universes they haven't visited yet) and reached out to every civilization that discovers it to bring them into a group.
I think the standard notation at least Pre-Crisis was a reference to the vibrational frequency of the universe, hence the giant tuning forks during Crisis on Infinite Earths, so there is a standardized measurement for universes. This I think is why Final Crisis involves Superman singing to win the day, too. I probably botched that info, though.
Given Hinon's complaints about "Earth Prime" not using standard universe numbering notation, it should really not be a surprise that different groups would have different means of labeling them.
In fact, it's inevitable that there would be more than one notation, in an infinite multiverse where inter-universal travel exists and is independently discovered in more than one of them. The only way this could NOT happen is if the labeling were somehow baked into the structure of the universe ("I've discovered a new universe, the tag on the collar says it's Earth 722") or if some powerful organization found a way to detect inter-universal travel (even in universes they haven't visited yet) and reached out to every civilization that discovers it to bring them into a group.
There does actually seem to be meaningful cosmological features that give consistent naming. Namely the negative/positive divide seems to be meaningful and baked in. Whether there are other such features is harder to say.
I think the standard notation at least Pre-Crisis was a reference to the vibrational frequency of the universe, hence the giant tuning forks during Crisis on Infinite Earths, so there is a standardized measurement for universes. This I think is why Final Crisis involves Superman singing to win the day, too. I probably botched that info, though.
There does actually seem to be meaningful cosmological features that give consistent naming. Namely the negative/positive divide seems to be meaningful and baked in. Whether there are other such features is harder to say.
Certainly there are consistent features you could choose in establishing a notation, but those are by no means the only categorizations you could use. For example, if you could establish an inter-universal distance metric (perhaps based on the amount of energy it takes to make the transition) then you could establish an origin point and call it Universe 0 and then enumerate universes based on how far away they are and in what direction.
The "tag on the collar" thing was really more of a metaphysical thing, something where you show up and you just know which universe you're in, unambiguously and in a way that brooks no meaningful alternatives. If you read The Practice War then you may recognize this as how the Secrets are numbered.
The SI is currently looking for people with stable desire structures. Importantly, he does not seem to be filtering for what those desires are. So it's completely plausible for him to appear in front of someone with a stable desire for murdering people. Quite possibly someone on Apokolips, as that mindset is more encouraged there than in other places.
Alternatively, he could find someone with non-harmful desires that don't help him. Raising animals, for example.
Finally, he doesn't seem to have much awareness of physical space when he's in the plane of Avarice. It's unlikely, but he could end up selecting a Reach citizen or soldier, and have a rather awkward conversation about why he's there.
