With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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How did Grayven make it to the Anti-Matter universe without the Guardians transport system?
And how does he plan to make it back without an inter-dimensional signaler?
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Yay! We're getting snarky back!
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this is going to end poorly. Oh my goddess this is going to end poorly. She's not a political exile, he has no idea how bad orange light poisoning really is, and gravyen is sort of shit at keeping track of people, also he can't look into her soul. Not to mention it sounds like he'd have her building ships without someone to look over her shoulder. she's going to be able to subvert that fleet with a few button presses if she has plans for her own warfleet.
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Knowing Grayven, the answer to both is probably "with aplomb," with specifics forthcoming in the next episode.How did Grayven make it to the Anti-Matter universe without the Guardians transport system?
And how does he plan to make it back without an inter-dimensional signaler?
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Boom tube.How did Grayven make it to the Anti-Matter universe without the Guardians transport system?
And how does he plan to make it back without an inter-dimensional signaler?
Because... No one's going to check?
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Paul said that it was possible to go back and forth with a power ring, just fairly difficult; it was preferable to use a transporter system where possible. Grayven has both a power ring and a mother box, and astounding physical resilience that could let him shrug off 'turbulence' or any such thing that might shred a normal lantern.How did Grayven make it to the Anti-Matter universe without the Guardians transport system?
And how does he plan to make it back without an inter-dimensional signaler?
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and if he can find someone who she can't slip something by I'll be surprised. She's from a teach base that can make pseudo power rings, someone to make sure she hasn't done something sneaky would be someone who could understand that kind of teach base. Which leaves maybe motherbox and a controller. Motherbox is busy and the controllers are largly uninvolved.
It also may not be something as obvious as an override code or a backdoor. Simply knowing the security protocols would likely be almost enough if she just happened to put in a really good autopilot.
mostly i'ts greven seems a lot less skilled/inclined to ride heard on people, and just recruited someone who is unlikely to be trustworthy to build his space fleet, and gave her a ring with stronger mental effects than he realizes. It's a fairly explosive mix and he doesn't realize how explosive. I give good odds of it blowing up in his face even if it's "not surprise! you just build her a beserker fleet!" levels of blowing up.
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Paul should contact Pandemic, he figured out how to insert mutations into viruses so that powers could be inserted like a vaccine.
Could undoubtedly make contagious powers too.
Whether that counts for curing Sublime infections I dunno.
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He has a Mother Box, a Controller and a Dox.
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She's intrigued, if nothing else. Here's your chance to make a case!
Also, it is interesting as always to see the differences between how Renegade and Paragon interact with the same groups.
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Wouldn't that risk him exploding if his environmental shield failed?
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Thank you for the extra chapter!
This theory doesn't really mesh well with the facts as presented.
Here the hostility started when the woman revealed being a mutant, but if the theory of the bacterium reacting to the absence of other of its kind were true it wouldn't need her to admit being a mutant, would it?
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I'm not sure the Dox helps, this is the guy who randomly calls up Sinestro for instruction (the guy who apparently wears a necklace of the rings of Green Lanterns he's killed) after being told the importance of keeping up relationships with the Green Lantern Corps and mentioning this in the same conversation. Point taken, though.
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Depending on how fervent an adherent she is to the Anti-Monitor there is no reason to suggest she would ever betray Graven.
He makes enemies as easily as breathing. Even once the pacify near Tamarian space their will never be a shortage of enemies for her to build weapons to kill.
The only real danger I can see to her going off the reservation is if she decides that Darkseid is a heretic to the Anti-Monitor's edicts with his use of the Anti-Life Equation and tries to launch a crusade against him. After all you should care about all of the lives you are snuffing out, not just do it because life isn't worth living.
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This doesn't sound like an entirely bad thing...
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I'm only minorly aware of that anime, and it really doesn't look interesting. Genos is pretty cute though.
Possible. But I can't say. I don't recall anyone ever actually trying to launch him into the sun.
You'd be surprised. Hulk's gamma emissions have blasted rooms he's been into pieces and dragon ball z'd the ground he's standing on. It's not completely impossible that he could propel his way with that. Also, because Hulk can ALWAYS feel/lock on to the exact point the original gamma bomb that created him, even in off of earth, he could use that to point him in the direction he's supposed to go.
Logically you're idea is true. But Hulk always seems to find a way. This isn't even bringing up the idea that he might just rip a hole in whatever reality he's in, to fall into another. (he's done that.)
Even though it shouldn't be possible. Hulk CAN reach his own back. I have issues where he has done it to snag both Spider-man and the Abomination.
To this all I can say is that this was from the Ultimate universe....and the Ultimate universe was full of stupid grimdark death and other stupid crap. All from something that was launched because Joey Q was adamant that Spider-man "should be a kid god damn it!" then morphed into the decent idea that it be for younger kids who hadn't read 50 years of continuity. Then writers decided that they could use it to do all the stuff they weren't allowed to do in the 616...which mostly boiled down to killing everyone off.
It does serve to frame racism as something external to baseline humanity (i.e. social norms); something which should be rejected and which, in theory, can be fought and prevailed over.
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It's actually pretty good if you like deconstructive superhero fiction.
...assuming this is true, that is easily the stupidest Hulk-related thing I've-
-ev...er... heard...
Wouldn't that risk him exploding if his environmental shield failed?
I'm not certain that the "anti-matter" universe actually behaves like anti-matter in DC continuities.
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I would argue they are right to have a degree of fear, and certainly a good deal of caution. But not to the extent that they take it. There are ways to mitigate this that are not 3 story killing machines with inadequate collateral damage avoidance abilities shooting at people in dense urban centers. Or a full on race war that gives the actually dangerous mutants every motive to hit back.
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Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Basically the Earth-16 concept applied to the Marvel U. If you leave out the rushed series finale it's really, really good.
Eeeeeh to be fair when they announced Amadeus Cho was going to be Hulk I broke out the red too, but when I actually read him I realised I liked him. (The fact he was teamed up with Kamala didn't hurt.)
As has been mentioned, Sublime is Marvel canon, so...
As my friends like to point out, there was a Tumblr clip about that from the X-Men movies once:
Rogue: ...you mean...there could be a cure?
Storm: We don't need a cure. We're perfect just as we are.
Audience: Says the storm goddess to the girl who if she tries to kiss someone they die...
(The repeated attempts to push the X-Men in new "they're ______" analogue directions also trip over the fact that the intended metaphor for the X-Gene was puberty.)
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I remember Cho when was having adventures with Hercules. I liked him there just fine. But....he's not the Hulk. You don't....kill off like 90% of your heroes and replace them with knock offs and then wonder why everyone is so pissed. Yeah, let's make Captain America have always been a nazi, that can't go wrong. Let's have some random person pick up Thor's hammer, have Odin someone not be able to counter it, then spend issue after issue having everyone (including Thor himself!) talk about how she is so much better than the original Thor, how she is using the hammer and powers in ways he could NEVER have thought of. (Because Shilling. ALWAYS. WORKS!)
Maybe the stories are good. But I have a rule, and the rule is "that if you piss me off, you don't get money." I'm not going to support Marvel when they pull a crisis event (the one thing they were always praised for NOT doing) and then shit on their long term fanbase.
I also can't stand those people who go. "I'm against everything about this. It's gonna suck, I hate this....I'm going to buy it anyway."
Can't be much worse than having Sinestro in the ring.
So, you're almost certainly close by, and while you might have some sort of camouflage system set up, the X gene does rather stand out to power ring sensors."
Oxford comma 4 LIFE, son!
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