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I raise a construct FTL interdiction construct
Redundant "construct" in this phrase. Either: "I raise a construct FTL interdiction device," or, "I raise an FTL interdiction construct." I think the latter is probably smoother, personally, but either works.

There's a flash as my ring briefly convinces the universe that I have less than no mass
Technically, having "less than no mass" wouldn't help you go superluminal. The weird thing about the mass/light barrier is that the math behind relativity shows that nothing that has mass can go at exactly c, and everything that has zero mass must always go at exactly c (in all reference frames).

If you can somehow "teleport" in velocity-space across the speed of light, jumping instantaneously from sub-luminal to super-luminal speeds, you'd be 100% within the laws of physics as we know them. In fact, the word for massive particles moving faster than c is "tachyons." That's what that oft-misused term actually means.

Really just a quibble, but it touched on a point of interest, so I felt like sharing. The comic book physics rules make what you've written perfectly reasonable for my suspension of disbelief.
 
The Citadel Complex wasn't anywhere near large enough to count as a planet.

And the planet he dropped it on wasn't destroyed, it's still there (it's messed up royally, but it's still there) :drevil:
But nobody said anything about destroying planets. We were talking about destroying worlds -- in the same sense that nuclear war is called an "end of the world" scenario even though the planet would keep on spinning unperturbed. And OL certainly destroyed the Citadel's world.

Destroying planets is quite a bit harder.
 
Redundant "construct" in this phrase. Either: "I raise a construct FTL interdiction device," or, "I raise an FTL interdiction construct." I think the latter is probably smoother, personally, but either works.
Thank you, corrected.

I think the 'an' is correct as well, but I'l having a hard time explaining to myself why it isn't just 'a'.
Technically, having "less than no mass" wouldn't help you go superluminal. The weird thing about the mass/light barrier is that the math behind relativity shows that nothing that has mass can go at exactly c, and everything that has zero mass must always go at exactly c (in all reference frames).

If you can somehow "teleport" in velocity-space across the speed of light, jumping instantaneously from sub-luminal to super-luminal speeds, you'd be 100% within the laws of physics as we know them. In fact, the word for massive particles moving faster than c is "tachyons." That's what that oft-misused term actually means.

Really just a quibble, but it touched on a point of interest, so I felt like sharing. The comic book physics rules make what you've written perfectly reasonable for my suspension of disbelief.
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Good? I think?
I'll correct it, but most of the time the original is true as well.
 
Er... is that even a thing?

I mean, it may sound very dramatic for a comic to talk about destroying galaxies, but how would anyone even begin to do it? I haven't actually run any numbers on it, but I'm pretty sure that even if you could create a stellar anti-mass and crash it into a star, annihilating both, you still wouldn't meaningfully damage the galaxy it's in.

Google says there are a hundred billion stars in our galaxy, so... you've certainly got your work cut out for you. Assuming you can annihilate a star every day, you'll need about 3 billion years, give or take. Might get pretty dull.
Well, that depends on your phlebotnium. If you can just apply instant entropy as a billion LY area-effect, not that hard.
That being said, I haven't read the actual issue this apparently happened in, so I don't know how stupid - or clever - the writers' explanation was.

Besides, Almerac is in a different galaxy!

And they still look like humans. Well, okay, they look like malthusians. And all humanoids follow the basic Angel layout, AND the DC universe is explicitly a created one. (Well, at least some of them are. It's implied that any given creator-god is just the creator of a particular universe.)
And now I'm reminded of the tidbit that the story of Cain and Abel didn't happen on earth, so the first murder probably happened in Malthus, too.
 
Thank you, corrected.

I think the 'an' is correct as well, but I'l having a hard time explaining to myself why it isn't just 'a'.
You're welcome, and the "an" is correct because of how "FTL" is pronounced.

Despite the fact that we usually discuss the rules of "a" vs "an" in terms of the letter that starts the next word, the language developed around its spoken form. We say "an anomaly" and "a car" because trying to concatenate a vowel after "a" is awkward and actually slower than putting a consonant between them.

Older forms placed the "n" at the beginning of the next word. Some of these survive for little apparent reason today: "a nother" is still how some write what most spell "an other" these days. (I think because it's still pronounced with the "uh" sound rather than the "short a" sound that "an" gets.)

Anyway, "FTL" is pronounced "eff tee ell," which is a vowel sound at the beginning. Hence "an FTL" instead of "a FTL."
 
Has anyone ever tried to reconcile Vandal Savage as biblical Cain with House of Mystery/Secrets Cain and Abel as biblical Cain and Abel?
Well, there's some leeway, as the Dreaming Cain and Abel are stories, as far as I understand. But.... The extended DC universe is a huge mess, isn't it? I guess it's possible that just because Vandal Savage thinks the biblical Cain is him, it doesn't mean he's necessarily correct.
 
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ok, so antimatter charges are boss, but is anyone else noticing that they don't seem to deal well with shields? I get the feeling this is the kind of setting where exotic attacks are better at breeching shields than bigatons. Even the hulls are sort of holding up rather than simply evaporating when hit with oversized AM charges.
 
In the New52 continuity, Vandal Savage wasn't the Biblical Cain. That Cain was a Vampire and did battle with the Demon Knights of whom Savage was a founding (though at that point former) member.
Wait, how often does fiction make Cain a vampire? Is this a common thing?

Because the only other place I've heard of that happening is in Vampire the Masquerade.
 
Older forms placed the "n" at the beginning of the next word. Some of these survive for little apparent reason today: "a nother" is still how some write what most spell "an other" these days. (I think because it's still pronounced with the "uh" sound rather than the "short a" sound that "an" gets.)
Most of the time it's the other way around -- "a norange" (consider the Spanish cognate "naranja") mutated into "an orange". But the way you describe does happen (consider "a nuncle" vs. "an uncle" in Shakespearean English).

What happens to "another" is a different linguistic beast entirely. That's actually an example of intensifier infixing. Infixing is when what would normally be considered an indivisible word (or sometimes a set word phrase) gets another word spliced into the middle of it; in English, this phenomenon is exclusively used for intensifiers, and that's what happens with the phrase "a whole nother". (It's often called "expletive infixing" because the most common use is in expressions like "fan-fucking-tastic".)
 
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Wait, how often does fiction make Cain a vampire? Is this a common thing?

Because the only other place I've heard of that happening is in Vampire the Masquerade.

I presume that they took the idea from Beowolf, grendel and his mother were descendants of Cain, for he was the father of monsters. Got a reference when Scandal met Grendel, he was all "give me a hug, cuz."

As for Cain and Abel in DC I understand that they have been inconsistent, sometimes they are just the embodiments of the stories, other times they are the first murderer and his victim but that happened before humanity's rise.

As for Savage being Cain, as in biblical Cain, well I see that as a delusion caused by possession, because I find the alternative quite stupid. For one thing, if he was the biblical Cain all this time, why didn't he have the mark of Cain until millennia later?

That doesn't mean he isn't a Cain. The DC universe is a story written in the book of destiny, the author isn't afraid to repeat himself.

The Queen of Fables and the Sheeda Queen are both the Wicked Queen, but that doesn't make them the same person.

Just like Misty Kilgore is a Snow White, despite being half bug person born billions of years in the future and becoming Z's apprentice.

If you go with the story shown in Hawkman, Vandal's brother was a Hawkman, a shamanic totem warrior who used his superpowers to protect the tribe.

When Vandal mutated he wanted to invent agriculture as a step towards world conquest.

Brother Hawk said no and attacked him, Vandal hit him back. Unfortunately, his brother ate rocks like a bird, and so that punch burst his stomach and killed him.

So Vandal's attitude is "Okay, sure, I technically killed my brother, but I certainly never told him to eat rocks for crying out loud."
 
Imperiex generally works through an army of mini-hims, each of whom is more powerful than Superman.

Large scale destruction is rather easier when you have an army of planetkillers.
Planet-killer and galaxy-killer are still two wildly different things.

But I guess the destruction of all the inhabited planets in a galaxy would count as "practically destroyed the galaxy", just like the distinction between planet-ending and world-ending.

Actually, if you leave all the stars intact, but destroy all traces of life, leaving the entire galaxy empty and dead, is that even worse than total annihilation?
 
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Actually, if you leave all the stars intact, but destroy all traces of life, leaving the entire galaxy empty and dead, is that even worse than total annihilation?
No, because new life might evolve there, or other visitors might be able to terraform the worlds. At the very least, it's a wealth of resources to anyone with the ability to gather them. Annihilation is an utter waste of everything there.
 
Er... is that even a thing?

I mean, it may sound very dramatic for a comic to talk about destroying galaxies, but how would anyone even begin to do it? I haven't actually run any numbers on it, but I'm pretty sure that even if you could create a stellar anti-mass and crash it into a star, annihilating both, you still wouldn't meaningfully damage the galaxy it's in.

Google says there are a hundred billion stars in our galaxy, so... you've certainly got your work cut out for you. Assuming you can annihilate a star every day, you'll need about 3 billion years, give or take. Might get pretty dull.

Not only can it be done, it can be done without comic book physics. You just need to seed the galaxy with self-replicating machines that spread to each star, using a combination of nuclear transmutation and starlifting to get the materials to start building Shkadov Thrusters around each star.

Basically, a shkadov thruster is a very thin half-dyson-sphere. It's usually made out of craptillions of individual many-mile-long flat objects made of mirrored material that, rather than orbiting a star, float above it suspended by the light pressure against them. These are called Statites, static satellites, they're 'heavy' solar sails with enough thrust to offset the pull of gravity, floating in place like a sheet of paper over an air vent.

Now, the purpose of these statites are to block one half of the star's light, so it's effectively only shining out one side. Light has no mass, but it does have momentum, and you can use it to move not just objects it hits, but objects that are emitting it. If you turn on a flashlight and leave it in the vacuum of space, it will, very slowly, start to accelerate.

Normally stars have negligible net acceleration from this 'cause they emit light roughly equally in all directions. But if you block out half of that light... The star, and all its attendant bodies, will very slowly start to move off their previous orbital path. It takes many millions of years for it to build up any significant speed, but it's fast enough that you can, say, push a star that will go supernova in a million years far enough away that it won't threaten any of its neighbors. Moving stuff galactic, and even intergalactic distances takes hundreds of millions of years, but it's essentially a passive process that you just set and forget, once you get the stars pointed in the right direction.

You just shkadov up every star in the galaxy, and point them into the central black hole. Make the galaxy eat itself. Job's done. It might take you say, three million years or so to get every star in the galaxy going, if you don't have FTL travel (and probably still at least a couple tens of thousands if you do, because these things take time to build.) And it'll take a good couple hundred million years for the farthest stars to start getting sucked in, but it shouldn't take -billions- of years. And your work should be done after it's all set up, and you can just go and kick back at your supervillain fortress and watch the show for most of that.

Presumably at some point you'd have to also wipe out all sentient life in the galaxy, and all life that could possibly -evolve- into sentient life in the timescale that this could take. For that purpose, I would recommend another type of stellar engine; a Nicoll-Dyson Beam. A couple of those scattered around your target galaxy could routinely scour the surface of every planet down to extremophile sub-surface bacteria once every half a million years or so, and they can still be moved by firing those beams in one direction constantly when they're not targetting things. That'll keep any newcomers from popping up. Wiping out the initial residents and keeping away any outside influences, is left as an exercise for the omnicidal reader.
 
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Respite (part 10)
16th August
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While nothing like as cataclysmic as what happened to the cargo carrier, the effect is still substantial. The thrusters assembly is gone, the rear quarter of the ship almost entirely hollowed out with the hull and most heavily armoured internal structures sticking out into space. The shields are down all over the ship, so either the internal damage not immediately visible is so great as to take down the whole system or the commander saw the carrier fried by gamma containment and has decided that containing the radiation is a bigger risk to the ship than a follow up bomb.

If that was the case then they were badly wrong, as I'm already moving onto the next ship when the first is lit up with orange light once again as Lantern Mother of Mercy deploys another bomb. This one appears next to the primary weapon and detonates immediately. With the ship designed to point that weapon directly at its enemy the surrounding armour is massively thick and sophisticated. That, combined with the surrounding vacuum limiting shockwave transmission means that the front end isn't damaged anything like as badly as the rear. That is to say, it still exists. The main gun is slagged, the armour is glowing red as heavily distorted plates continue to boil away from the hull. And it looks like the secondary turrets are no longer tracking, so either power is down or we hit the bridge.

I alter my direction of travel, aiming at the next ship.

Ring, message to the fleet.

Compliance.

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Mongulists. Cease fire and withdraw or I do that to the rest of you."

"We will scour Ater Clementia of life before allowing you a victory!"

"While I would much rather recover Mother of Mercy, killing you represents an acceptable 'next best thing'. You know I can kill you. The most sensible thing you could do would be to fall back and try again when you're better prepared. I will not repeat this offer. Fire again, and we don't stop until your ships are wrecked and everyone on board is dead."

If it comes to that, Lantern Mother of Mercy will have taken substantial damage. I'd rather not make that trade…

Of course, if I'm really lucky Mongal will shout 'I'll kill you myself' and come after me in a personal fighter. If that happens I'll have a reasonable chance at turning the ship crews to my cause on the grounds that going back to Mongul minus an Engine City, a Mother of Mercy and a daughter wouldn't do much for their life insurance premiums.

"Three, two-."

"I accept your terms, but mark my words, Lantern! Your head will decorate my father's halls-!"

"And not yours. Yes, I rather understood that was how it worked. You know, if you'd rather work for someone else-?"

Channel closed.


Yes, I suppose that was a bit hopeful. The ships begin to wheel around, secondary turrets not even pointing at Ater Clementia. I don't stop or drop my railgun turrets, but as the drones fly past me without firing and head for their parent ships I start to wind down mentally. I alter my course to fall back slightly, keeping my guns trained on them but allowing my shot to gradually worsen. I wonder if there's a way to create faster than light crumblers? No, stupid question, obviously there is, but I wonder if there's a way to do it without building a full sized FTL torpedo. Those things aren't common for a good reason: they're far too easy to distract or disrupt. Some sort of… Space warping field projection, maybe..?

"Thank you for liberating me."

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There's a Human expression, Lantern Mercy. Don't count your chickens before they're hatched."

"Because some eggs may get eaten or otherwise be destroyed before that. Where can you see potential for a problem to arise?"

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Anger is a tricky beast. They might call in reinforcements, even knowing that we'd kill them in retaliation, rather than let us win. In order to let them leave I'm having to give them an escape vector where I'm not jamming faster than light travel. A way out is a way in."

"I have an additional problem."

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Oh, what's that?"

"Between the energy I am committing to the subspace pocket containing the remaining bombs and the shields I am maintaining to protect myself, my ring is very low on power."

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How low?"

"Eight percent."

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Okay, as long as they don't fire-."

"Seven percent."


What's using-? Gravity distortions. Maintaining a construct requires avarice, making it in the first place requires ring power. As long as those barriers don't get shot they don't take any more power, but the gravity distortions she's using to shield herself do. Can't recharge without dropping her construct…

Ring, is superluminal travel still available?

Confirmed.

Plot course to Lantern Mother of Mercy's locus and execute.

Compliance.

A flash and I'm back on the ground. I take a moment to reorientate myself and then march toward her, my left gauntlet disappearing into subspace as I do so.

"The plan is, you take my ring, switch to using that, then pass me your ring for me to recharge. Simple enough?"

"There will be a slight shift in the gravity distortion. They may be able to detect it."

"Six percent power remaining."

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They're quite a lot more likely to detect your construct barriers vanishing." I pull my ring off and hold it out to her. "Do it."

A tendril sprouts from my left, reaching out from the main mass. "No ritual handover this time?"

"Not for fieldwork."

Her tendril plucks my ring from my hand, my environmental shield going out as she does so. Okay, that always worries me a little, but… Air pressure's a little high on my left hand, but nothing dangerous. Local air isn't breathable by a standard pattern humanoid, but my armour's atmosphere recycling system can handle it easily for the few seconds it'll take for her to pass me hers. She pulls my ring to her central mass, a slight ripple passing through her environmental shield as she syncs them up.

"Did they notice?"

"I do not believe so." Another tendril swings around, her dimly glowing ring falling from the end into my waiting hands.

"Right."

I slide her ring onto my left ring finger, then summon her lantern from subspace. The new model lanterns look like miniature versions of the Orange Central Power Battery rather than the 'classic' design mine has. I wouldn't change it for anything, but I can't deny that the new version looks more… Appropriate, for a space-aged military police force.

"This is my cause, this is my fight-."

"Is that necessary?"

"No." I tap the ring against the body of the personal lantern.

"Charge at one hundred percent."

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But it's traditional. What we're doing, devoting our lives to improving the universe, it's a big deal. And it's easy to get distracted from the mission. Particularly with orange rings."

"How so?"

"Getting to do whatever you want is addictive. The oath is there to ensure that we constantly remind ourselves of our higher ideals, but… I don't intend to lock personal lanterns to a mantra, and there are Green Lanterns who don't use one."

"What should it consist of?"

"Something that reminds you of why you're doing this. What it is you hope to achieve with your ring. And it's traditionally four lines of eight syllables in whatever language you choose for it."

"Then I believe that I have something in mind for my own."
 
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"Something that reminds you of why you're doing this. What it is you hope to achieve with your ring. And it's traditionally four lines of eight syllables in whatever language you choose for it."

"Then I believe that I have something in mind for my own."
Be neat to see what oaths pop up from the various new recruits to the OLC.

On a similar note curious to see how recruits end up using rings since just like there are lots of GLs that have certain fighting styles/tactics/ways to use the green light/using rings along with their own powers be fun to see how different people from different cultures use it as time goes on.

Like Paul personally doesn't make very strong constructs compared to a GL since hard to want a construct to stay strong compared to willing it. However a recruit could desire to win so badly during fights or missions their constructs become comparable in strength to a GLs and make them more brawlers compared to Pauls' fight smarter style.
 
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