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My memory can be a little sketchy, but I don't think that the SI knows that. Oh, he known that Calvin Durham isn't Kaldur's natural father but the SI has never met Black Manta.
I also remember Paul wanting to talk to Kaldur about something important and never getting back to it. What was it that he wanted to talk about?

The players wanted all those points they diplomacy and xeno-psychology to actually do something.
What? Allowing social skill investment to MATTER? What kind of a munchkin are you!?!?!?!?!? ;)

That was a Teen Titans cartoon thing. Like the laser eyes.
The funny thing is, Teen Titans Cartoon was my first and primary exposure to Starfire, and I didn't remember that aspect of her flight power. Though I KIND-of do recall the episode where she and Raven swapped powers how the emotions vs. control issue was relevant.
 
The funny thing is, Teen Titans Cartoon was my first and primary exposure to Starfire, and I didn't remember that aspect of her flight power. Though I KIND-of do recall the episode where she and Raven swapped powers how the emotions vs. control issue was relevant.
I'm not sure the writers remembered it either. Did she lose the ability when she was visibly miserable? I certainly remember her flying in Sisters.
 
And Komand'r still hasn't healed herself. This is getting a bit ridiculous.

I get the feeling that Paul hasn't told her that she can fix herself if she wants it badly enough. Seems like the sorta thing she would have tried to do straight away, even if she didn't have enough charge to do so.

He just told Koriand'r that rings can heal people.

There is a difference between fixing trauma, which is painful and readily apparent, and fixing a genetic condition that she has had her entire life.

Hell, there may be an issue if she doesn't Want to change something so fundamental to her life.

She was a villain in canon and shows every sign of already being on that path, yet only now does Paul worry about her stability?

Ophidichan just wants to cuddle.

That said… probably should have introduced her to the recruits a bit earlier.

Given her attitude when talking about it… no. I don't believe that for a second.

Insightful! Assuming Tamaraneans have a similar subconscious as humans, being a 'cripple' may be the justification Koma needs to hold on to her anger, and she might not be ready to let go of that anger soo.... No heals.

That being said, orange rings seem to heavily favor conscious desires over subconscious ones... and Koma has a decent set of reasons to be angry even without her species' flight powers

As mentioned, if being unable to Fly has become so much a part of her self Image, she won't be able to fix it with the Ring. The ring may actually Re-assert it if say, Paul fixes from outside.
Worse, it's entirely possible her Subconscious Desire's Idea of 'Fixing it' with the Ring, would be to remove the Ability to Fly from all other Tamaraneans.
Sometimes, it's not what you have, it's what other people don't.
 
As mentioned, if being unable to Fly has become so much a part of her self Image, she won't be able to fix it with the Ring. The ring may actually Re-assert it if say, Paul fixes from outside.
Worse, it's entirely possible her Subconscious Desire's Idea of 'Fixing it' with the Ring, would be to remove the Ability to Fly from all other Tamaraneans.
Sometimes, it's not what you have, it's what other people don't.
It would be pretty weird for the ring to suddenly start enforcing the wearer's existing self-image when the story started with the ring doing a full body mod on Paul.
Especially if that self-image is being enforced on someone who wants to change it.
 
It would be pretty weird for the ring to suddenly start enforcing the wearer's existing self-image when the story started with the ring doing a full body mod on Paul.
Especially if that self-image is being enforced on someone who wants to change it.

But does she Actually Want to change herself?
Or does she just Want to not be different?
Because they aren't the same thing.

Also, unlike Paul, Komand'r is not going to be consciously aware of all her subconscious desires. What she thinks she Wants and What she actually Wants are not necessarily going to line up.
 
But does she Actually Want to change herself?
Or does she just Want to not be different?
Because they aren't the same thing.

Also, unlike Paul, Komand'r is not going to be consciously aware of all her subconscious desires. What she thinks she Wants and What she actually Wants are not necessarily going to line up.
Not to mention Wanting to fly is already solved by wearing the ring. Wanting to fly more without specifically focusing on genetics, will make her fly harder, not change herself.

Also, does she have a ring AI, or does Paul have the only one?
 
She has whoever became the construct-lantern the ring represents as her "ring AI." Also, Paul didn't have complete understanding of his subconscious desires when he perfected his own body, so that's not necessary for that function.
 
Sort of why Koriand'r is throwing orange bolts from her hands.
It would be somewhat funny if they both used plasma based weapons in the way the SI uses railguns.
Also, does she have a ring AI, or does Paul have the only one?
Hinon has an AI as well, although I know that's not what you wanted to know.

Thinking about it, having a Construct-Lantern ring as opposed to a normal one might not be as big of a downside as I first thought. The SI mentioned that rings leave all the decision making up to the Lantern, while they do the all the fiddly bits. The regular rings are probably much better for experienced Lanterns, but having a ring that can make decisions on its own without Lantern approval could be very valuable. Also, like Sinestro ring, it can suggest possible tactics and avenues for improvement without having to be specifically asked, which is either annoying or helpful depending on the Ring's personality. A Construct-Lantern ring would helpfully inform you that although that assassin has no poison in her mouth, she does have some on her lips.
Also, Paul didn't have complete understanding of his subconscious desires when he perfected his own body, so that's not necessary for that
True, but he wasn't fixing a disease or inherent flaw. He was making himself have more muscle and less fat, plus some various tweaks like virtually no body hair. Not as complicated as fixing a chronic disease.
 
True, but he wasn't fixing a disease or inherent flaw. He was making himself have more muscle and less fat, plus some various tweaks like virtually no body hair. Not as complicated as fixing a chronic disease.
I believe Kommand'r's condition is not a chronic disease, but rather an injury from a disease. More like a victim of leprosy who has been cured, but already lost his legs to it.
 
True, but he wasn't fixing a disease or inherent flaw. He was making himself have more muscle and less fat, plus some various tweaks like virtually no body hair. Not as complicated as fixing a chronic disease.
This sentence displays an appalling ignorance of biology and physiology.

A glance is enough to know that she really likes being able to fly. I'm not sure if she's learned to repair whatever damage her childhood illness did, but.. I don't think I'll do it for her. It will be an excellent encouragement to learn how to use her ring for non-combat purposes.
She doesn't exactly have an AI. She has a constructed Okaaran.
So you you are saying OL you is either trying to fuck her by expecting her to heal herself with a ring he doesn't think has that capability, or is a idiot because he doesn't realize her ring cannot heal her the same way he remade his body in the first episode?

There's also the problem of getting the data on Tamaranian physiology she would need.
Having a huge source of easily accessible data on Human physiology close at hand helped as well.
Are you... trying to be a contrary asshole here? One can't do it because getting the data on her species is too hard, when there is a planet full of Tamaranians she could just scan. But the other was helped by having a planet full of humans to scan for comparisons.
 
So you you are saying OL you is either trying to fuck her by expecting her to heal herself with a ring he doesn't think has that capability, or is a idiot because he doesn't realize her ring cannot heal her the same way he remade his body in the first episode?
Neither. Fixing short-term trauma is a much easier task than large-scale body modifications.

Are you... trying to be a contrary asshole here? One can't do it because getting the data on her species is too hard, when there is a planet full of Tamaranians she could just scan. But the other was helped by having a planet full of humans to scan for comparisons.
One ring is much better than the other at doing that kind of analysis.
 
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So you you are saying OL you is either trying to fuck her by expecting her to heal herself with a ring he doesn't think has that capability, or is a idiot because he doesn't realize her ring cannot heal her the same way he remade his body in the first episode?
He said that the Old Rings are just temporary and he would be giving out new ones when they have been made.
 
To a lot of fandom, platonic relationships and best friends aren't a thing. Every pair of characters who has any emotional interaction (including hatred) is shipped with each other. This applies to both straight and gay pairings.

There are fans who do this, the RWBY fandom being a good example. I do not do this, except as a joke. You can find plenty of sexually compatible platonic friendships in my & Alex's fiction. Platonic friendships and honorary siblings are great, and even more underrepresented than gays. So if it were that, I absolutely would not change it. But in this case we can take an educated guess at what the creator wanted it to be. And in this case, that ain't platonic.

To say nothing of the enormous amount of queer baiting various forms of media will do. Give us just enough that we get interested, then yank it all away.

Supernatural. One of the shows Alex is the very angriest at, for that "in love. ...with humanity" stunt. I thought it was hilarious, but I can see why other people got so pissed. That shit was mean shit.

(Frankly, I thought Mako got the short end of the stick, there. He wasn't nearly as unreasonable as people like to paint him, and he was jerked around a fair bit. Not saying he didn't make mistakes - the two-timing Korra and Asami deal was stupid, especially since it wasn't his intention - but he took a lot of abuse and then got vilified for it.)

Is he an incel? /s (Warning: Do not Google. Tumblr Bullshit.)

Mako is no more entitled to being given a girl as some kind of reward than any other human. And if you're going to go that direction, he was jerked around significantly less than Korra or Asami in the same time. They all took abuse. No-one vilified him except a vocal minority of the fans. Notice, he's still one of Korra's closest friends at the end of the series. In-universe, he's doing better off in life than Bolin.
 
But does she Actually Want to change herself?
Or does she just Want to not be different?
Because they aren't the same thing.

Also, unlike Paul, Komand'r is not going to be consciously aware of all her subconscious desires. What she thinks she Wants and What she actually Wants are not necessarily going to line up.
I imagine she wants to not be crippled. Also, she could want to change herself because she wants to fit in, and possibly even want to change just to regain her lost ability to fly.

Paul wasn't enlightened when he reshaped himself. He just decided he wanted to be more physically fit than he was, which didn't actually help him with being a Lantern much (so clearly the required avarice for self-improvement within the bounds of your species isn't that high).

True, but he wasn't fixing a disease or inherent flaw. He was making himself have more muscle and less fat, plus some various tweaks like virtually no body hair. Not as complicated as fixing a chronic disease.
That wasn't refuting that fixing the damage done to Komand'r by the disease is difficult and complex. That was refuting the idea that (Orange) power rings maintain their wearer's shape as their wearer's self-image.
 
This sentence displays an appalling ignorance of biology and physiology.
IRL, yeah, of course altering your body that significantly would be equally as hard if not vastly harder than curing some rare disease. But in the context of this story, power ring transmutation plus the other ring abilities means that copying and slightly modifying existing structures is much easier than creating new ones or fixing existing ones in novel ways. The SI has remade large parts of his body in seconds, copied an amygdala into someone's brain and had it work, things far beyond human science. Yet as far as I know, he hasn't removed the blind spot from his eyes, or made it so all his fingers can be moved individually, which are conceptually far simpler, because that would require a deeper knowledge of biology than he currently has.
That wasn't refuting that fixing the damage done to Komand'r by the disease is difficult and complex. That was refuting the idea that (Orange) power rings maintain their wearer's shape as their wearer's self-image.
Oh, I must have misunderstood. My bad.
 
Does anyone know of any With This Ring omakes in other threads? I know of at least one. I'm not quite sure how to index them, but I figured I can go ahead and find out if there are any more.
 
There's an omake index in the first post that links to two SB index posts and two SV index posts.

...And a fourth, which I'm in the process of constructing. That's why I'm asking about ones outside this thread. The ones here are easy enough, if time consuming, to find. But there's no way for me to find any elsewhere without being pointed in the right direction.
 
Oh. By "this thread" I thought you meant the SV thread, because that's got quite a compilation of stuff from across various SB threads. I didn't realize you meant non-main-discussion-thread threads. My apologies.
 
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