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Barda folds her arms across her chest. "Darkseid came for you. He exposed your servitors and warband to the Anti-Life."
This is concerning. Lynne seems ok, but there's no indication that anyone else even survived.
Whelp, Grayven is on the warpath
If he can't feel love right now, he likely can't feel anger either.
Okay Unless I missed something it's a little after 0000 GMT and we usually get our fix a lot closer to 0700 GMT or 0200 EST. Am I the only one wondering about this?
Occasionally, Zoat posts updates before he goes to sleep, usually on the weekends. It's only happened about once since the move to SV, but it used to happen more. As best as I can figure, he does it because he intends to sleep in and doesn't want to delay posting the update too much.
 
Listen, everyone! We need to send Grayven our energy!!

Like the post, like all the posts!!
 
I try[/… I try to move, to look… I know it's-.

I crumple, head in my hands. "[size=yellow]Noo[/color]."

Alas, poor Renegade. :(

Seems you were in a bit of a hurry here. There's a couple of broken formats.[/SIZE]

Missing size number and bracket?

Ninja'd[/SIZE]

Think this is an error.

And ninja'd[/SIZE]

bbcode issues.

Oft-ninja'ed bbcode issues, at that.

Hey @Mr Zoat I think you have some broken formats.

I don't know if anyone's pointed this out yet, but Zoat, there's a problem with the bbcode in this chapter.[/SIZE]
 
You're missing the fact that OL has diverged from Zoat in extensive ways. Things OL views as acceptable may not be things that Zoat views as acceptable.
Except the SI, especially the Paragon, has not once ever been shown to actually change his moral beliefs.

The Renegade path (Grayven) started the day before he woke up in space with the ring. It was a really, really shitty day for him, which combined with ring mental shenanigans, influenced him to take basically the 'Renegade' path.
That's a ridiculous and retarded idea, if true. If Zoat's 'had a bad day at work' isn't understating things.
@Mr Zoat Did you really take your idea for renegade's start-of-psuedo-darkness from the idiotic cesspool that is the Joker's 'one bad day'?

Because such changes are not, have never, and will never be because of a bad day - they can be caused by trauma or epiphanies or what-have-you, but you get over bad days at work, especially when you get a huge fucking change in circumstances like being transported to a new world and given cosmic power.
That would in no way cause such a blindingly huge and long-lasting difference, unless the ROB slipped in some mindstate-calcification so that each SI could not change their views on such things.

Let me explain as I currently understand.

Originally, when the Renegade encountered the Forever People they thought he was Grayven because apparently the Orange Light feels Apokoliptian. So he decided to go with it for shits and giggles.

Then he stole Desaad's Father Box, which he used to build himself a soul. Unfortunately that required keeping up the facade of being Grayven so the Father Box would listen to him.
You make it sound like he used the Father Box just for the lols, rather than desperately needing a soul to counter the shitload of horrible things that can and did happen to him without it.
Yeah, he fucked with the VillageForever People, because they were nothing - not a threat or problem in any way. Then Desaad appeared, and even he thought the Renegade was Grayven. So the Renegade used that to help with the fight, and to prevent Apokalypse from harming Earth.
And then he ends up with a Father Box on his hands, and he realizes that everyone connected to the Newgods mistake him for Grayven without prompting, and he has something that can not just give him a soul, but an incredibly powerful soul, in a process that has been used flawlessly hundreds of times over.

And Grayven apparently never got the Hellblazer knowledge (that was in every detail correct, including future events, even though the fact that the SI not having such knowledge is the central principle of this story) given that even a more selfish or angry person would have seen early-on the usefulness of a tried-and-tested solution like the soul-tattoo.
 
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@Mr Zoat Did you really take your idea for renegade's start-of-psuedo-darkness from the idiotic cesspool that is the Joker's 'one bad day'?

Because such changes are not, have never, and will never be because of a bad day - they can be caused by trauma or epiphanies or what-have-you, but you get over bad days at work, especially when you get a huge fucking change in circumstances like being transported to a new world and given cosmic power.
That would in no way cause such a blindingly huge and long-lasting difference, unless the ROB slipped in some mindstate-calcification so that each SI could not change their views on such things.
It would be stupid if the differences between Paul and Grayven were since day 1, but now it's been over a year of butterflies. At the start, it was just Rene-Paul being a bit rude in conversations, which resulted in a less welcoming attitude from the heroes, which became him not feeling as much a part of the in group that protects each other, so he goes a bit farther down the morally-grey path because he feels it necessary, which added in-universe secrets he needed to keep...

It's not just the Joker's "I stubbed my toe, so that afternoon I invented a chemical weapon and released it into an elementary school" level of insanity.
 
Personally I don't mind Zoat ending this fic. The Paragon story with Earth finally ended as far as I am concerned. Now we just have to see Renegade try to put himself back together and that's it. I am not really interested in ParaPaul making his own corps because that screams genre blindness and Grayven conquesting himself will be more interesting.

Although is not Zoat fault that DC really overid the idea to the point many fans would be happy if they just went back to green with a bit of yellow.
 
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That's a ridiculous and retarded idea, if true. If Zoat's 'had a bad day at work' isn't understating things.
@Mr Zoat Did you really take your idea for renegade's start-of-psuedo-darkness from the idiotic cesspool that is the Joker's 'one bad day'?

Because such changes are not, have never, and will never be because of a bad day - they can be caused by trauma or epiphanies or what-have-you, but you get over bad days at work, especially when you get a huge fucking change in circumstances like being transported to a new world and given cosmic power.
That would in no way cause such a blindingly huge and long-lasting difference, unless the ROB slipped in some mindstate-calcification so that each SI could not change their views on such things.

As I understand it, Renegade had a bad day and was thus less resistant to the orange light. Not super game-changing less resistant, but noticeable. He did power grabs Paragon did not, and didn't do the mental exercises. His desire to remedy his huge magic weakness fucked even more with his head, and that's where the huge plot divergence between Paragon and Renegade starts.
 
Can someone explain to me what happened at the end, there? What was Grayven doing? What was he intending to do it for? What did he mean by "shut it down"?
 
Can someone explain to me what happened at the end, there? What was Grayven doing? What was he intending to do it for? What did he mean by "shut it down"?
He currently can't feel love, among other emotions, and is going to retrieve something in the Mojave desert to fix that.

'Shut it down' is just him telling the ring to shut down the hush tube, as he doesn't want to be followed. I imagine because he doesn't want to look at Lynne while he is unable to feel love for her.
 
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