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Grayven is unfamiliar with some of the more advanced Earth 50 anti-super weaponry. It looked like an ICBM to him but was in fact a Godkiller air-launched rapid deployment anti-super nuke. You have to point the rocket at the ground so that they can't run away fast enough.
 
I have the same problem on the iPhone.
To be honest, I'm still not sure why Zoat started using "transparent" instead of some color for his invisitext; even on my laptop I can't read the invisitext just by selecting it. How are most people seeing it?
On both my phone and desktop, highlighting the text reveals it. I'm not sure why it should be different on two computers, unless the problem is browser specific (I use chrome for both devices). Maybe try chrome if you haven't already? Not sure how to improve viewing on the iPhone.#AndroidMasterRace
 
Obviously too late now, but ICBMs don't 'come in'.

They are, much like the classic 'space rockets', staged vehicles, that exist to place the warhead bus into a ballistic arc.

At the top of the arc, the warhead bus (assuming that it is MIRVed, as suggested in this story) ejects each of the individual Reentry Vehicles into their own independently targeted terminal arcs. Multiple warheads do not all come down together as that is pointless, the first one to detonate would fry (as in EMP) the others. (this is called 'fratricide')

All that pointless nitpicking aside, my first comments on this wonderful story. You've captured the Young Justice universe with all the love of an inveterate comics geek. Well done.

Was about to say that... and its certainly NOT pointless, SoD is important.

Honestly what its wrong with good old Tomahawks?

Using an ICBM was overkill in all the ways that count and it makes the plot a little harder to believe.

Grayven is unfamiliar with some of the more advanced Earth 50 anti-super weaponry. It looked like an ICBM to him but was in fact a Godkiller air-launched rapid deployment anti-super nuke. You have to point the rocket at the ground so that they can't run away fast enough.


So an anti-super cruise missile?
 
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How are most people seeing it?
I use a script on greasemonkey that highlights invisitext in little red outlines, and then shows the text when I mouse over it. Before that I just clicked and dragged to highlight it. I prefer invisitex, because when people try to use grey for transparent it doesn't work for me because I'm using the white background theme.
 
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I wonder if the next iteration of the godkiller will have multiple warheads. Since this deployment show that a single warhead provides a single point of failure against targets that have an accurate enough ranged attack.
 
I use a script on greasemonkey that highlights invisitext in little red outlines, and then shows the text when I mouse over it. Before that I just clicked and dragged to highlight it. I prefer invisitex, because when people try to use grey for transparent it doesn't work for me because I'm using the white background theme.
What's script? Tellmetellmetellmetellme
 
What's script? Tellmetellmetellmetellme
I use this one:

Code:
// ==UserScript==
// @name        Xenforo Invis-Text Multi-Reveal
// @namespace   com.user.twixion
// @description This script adds a button to reveal invisible text. The button is placed under a poster's avatar, and will only be displayed if there is transparent text in the post. Also, a dotted grey border is placed around any invisible text to denote its presence.
// @include     /^https?://forums\.(spacebattles|sufficientvelocity)\.com/(threads|conversations)/.*$/
// @version     2.3
// @grant       none
// @history 2.3 bugfix: changed search for transparency to be case-insensitive
// @history 2.2 added include for https
// @history 2.1 bugfix: search string now case insensitive, used jquery instead of injecting JS into page
// @history 2.0 major rewrite to consolidate buttons, renamed
// @history 1.0 initial public version
 
// ==/UserScript==
 
// grab id from button, test if there exists any spans with "transparent" (case-insensitive)
// in the style and sets color to grey. If no match found, set to color "transparent"
function toggleVisibility() {
var id = $(this).attr('id');
var strPostID = "span.".concat(id);
if($(strPostID).filter(function(){
// regex test "transparent", case-insensitive
return /transparent/i.test($(this).attr('style'));
}).length > 0){$(strPostID).css("color","red");}
else {$(strPostID).css("color","transparent");}
}
 
// inject css style to page;
// spoilerShow not currently used, spoilerHide puts a dotted border around element
(function() {
var injectedCSS = document.createElement('style');
injectedCSS.appendChild(document.createTextNode(
".spoilerShow {color:#FF0000!important;}\
 .spoilerHide {border: 1px dotted grey!important;}\
 .spoilerHide:hover{color: #FF0000!important;}\
 "));
(document.body || document.head || document.documentElement).appendChild(injectedCSS);
})();
 
function createSpoilerButton(){
// create id variable if doesn't exist
if(typeof createSpoilerButton.id == 'undefined'){createSpoilerButton.id = 0;}
 
// var id = createSpoilerButton.id;
var strPostID = "post_id_";
// only create button if post contains transparent text
if($(this).find("span").filter(function(){
// regex test "transparent", case-insensitive
return /transparent/i.test($(this).attr('style'));
}).length > 0){
newButton = document.createElement("button");
buttonText = document.createTextNode("Toggle Invis-text");
newButton.setAttribute('type','button');
newButton.setAttribute('id',strPostID.concat(createSpoilerButton.id));
newButton.setAttribute('class','invisButton');
newButton.appendChild(buttonText);
$(this).find("div.messageUserBlock").append(newButton);
$(this).find("span").filter(function(){return /transparent/i.test($(this).attr('style'));}).addClass(strPostID.concat(createSpoilerButton.id));
createSpoilerButton.id++;
}
};
 
$(document).ready(function(){
$("span").filter(function(){
// regex test "transparent", case-insensitive
return /transparent/i.test($(this).attr('style'));
}).addClass('spoilerHide');
$("li.message").each(createSpoilerButton);
$("button.invisButton").click(toggleVisibility);
});
 
I wonder if the next iteration of the godkiller will have multiple warheads. Since this deployment show that a single warhead provides a single point of failure against targets that have an accurate enough ranged attack.
I think the current super-killer is fine as is. The one and only reason it didn't detonate as intended was Gonzo being an idiot and gloating that a nuke was coming. So long as the person who calls the nuke onto their location isn't so dumb as to tell anyone it's coming, it should work fine.
 
I wonder if the next iteration of the godkiller will have multiple warheads. Since this deployment show that a single warhead provides a single point of failure against targets that have an accurate enough ranged attack.

Multiple warheads do not all come down together as that is pointless, the first one to detonate would fry (as in EMP) the others. (this is called 'fratricide')

All that pointless nitpicking aside, my first comments on this wonderful story. You've captured the Young Justice universe with all the love of an inveterate comics geek. Well done.
 
I wonder if the next iteration of the godkiller will have multiple warheads. Since this deployment show that a single warhead provides a single point of failure against targets that have an accurate enough ranged attack.

"Godkiller?" If that was the government's idea of a godkiller someone got snowed, Kanto, Darkseid's personal assassin, apparently does just fine with a sword. :)

Grayven interacting with Kanto would be interesting, considering Kanto's affection for renaissance Italy.
 
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"Uhh, are you ok?"

"Nightwing, I have no eyes. I am very far from ok."

glacially slow at first then gathering speed as the Garrick Formula wears off. The duration's getting shorter and shorter each time…
If Grayven received tissue grafts or transplants, would he be able to assimilate any special properties into his metaphysique? Or would his "divinity" override them?

For someone who took multiple power formulas and is a big supporter of transhumanism, he is unusually passive about his physical flaws: (1)the Garrick Formula wearing off faster, (2)Zatanna being unable to cast healing spells and could only channel raw magic into Grayven to speed up his recovery, (3)Radion, etc.

As a man to doesn't rely solely on his power ring (armor, weapons stored in subspace, etc.), one option is for Grayven to wear a "battery pack" full of Speed Force energy like what Steel made for Wally West in the JLU/Avengers crossover so he could maintain super-speed in a universe devoid of the Speed Force. A similar device was used in "Gold Digger" where the werecheetah Brittany Digger wore Ether Vents that siphoned ambient mana to enhance her spiritual aura and temporarily give her minor spellcasting abilities.

Another option is giving Cranius data about the awakening process and New God metaphysiology might help Grayven regain the full benefits of the Garrick Formula.

There's also Kid Flash, who Grayven awakened into a New God. In a recent episode of the live-action "Flash" TV series, Dr. Wells build a device to steal a portion of Flash's speed energy which he then gave to Zoom. Now as a New God, 'speed' is now a fundamental part of Kid Flash's soul and metaphysique, so any drained speed energy ought to quickly replenish itself if Grayven asked for a boost.
 
Grayven to wear a "battery pack" full of Speed Force energy like what Steel made for Wally West in the JLU/Avengers crossover so he could maintain super-speed in a universe devoid of the Speed Force.
The FAQ says that speed force will not be a thing in this fic, so there wont be any containing or stealing it. The Flash and derivatives all are empowered by alchemy, and OL tested removing the formula from the body just makes it reappear a few seconds later.
 
If Grayven received tissue grafts or transplants, would he be able to assimilate any special properties into his metaphysique? Or would his "divinity" override them?
Depends what they were, probably override.
For someone who took multiple power formulas and is a big supporter of transhumanism, he is unusually passive about his physical flaws: (1)the Garrick Formula wearing off faster, (2)Zatanna being unable to cast healing spells and could only channel raw magic into Grayven to speed up his recovery, (3)Radion, etc.
Those defects are part and parcel of being a New God.
As a man to doesn't rely solely on his power ring (armor, weapons stored in subspace, etc.), one option is for Grayven to wear a "battery pack" full of Speed Force energy like what Steel made for Wally West in the JLU/Avengers crossover so he could maintain super-speed in a universe devoid of the Speed Force. A similar device was used in "Gold Digger" where the werecheetah Brittany Digger wore Ether Vents that siphoned ambient mana to enhance her spiritual aura and temporarily give her minor spellcasting abilities.
Grayven has now firmly decided to build a mana infuser. Unfortunately, he has no idea how to build mana batteries and if he overcharged himself he'd just absorb it.
Another option is giving Cranius data about the awakening process and New God metaphysiology might help Grayven regain the full benefits of the Garrick Formula.
Definately on the agenda, but Cranius currently doesn't know enough to even try that.
There's also Kid Flash, who Grayven awakened into a New God. In a recent episode of the live-action "Flash" TV series, Dr. Wells build a device to steal a portion of Flash's speed energy which he then gave to Zoom. Now as a New God, 'speed' is now a fundamental part of Kid Flash's soul and metaphysique, so any drained speed energy ought to quickly replenish itself if Grayven asked for a boost.
Wallace might well end up gaining the ability to do things like that but he isn't there yet.
 
Flash is in motion, grabbing Nightwing and.. sending lightning crackling across his head? She can share speed?
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A briefcase nuke huh? That's actually going to be pretty low power. This is the W55 warhead it was used in the Davy Crockett and intended for use as a backpack nuke. It had a yield of about 10 tons of TNT, yes not kilotons tons, which while powerful for it's size isn't that much.

Considering that a briefcase is even smaller...
That's not necessarily the case - apparently you can get it up to about two kilotons if you're clever. (EDIT: especially if you're willing to allow your "briefcase" to be excessively heavy, as a super-strong Apokolyptan robot probably is.)

Even if we're talking Davy Crocketts, the version of the W54 warhead used in SADM (Special Atomic Demolition Munition - a basically a backpack nuke) had a variable yield of up to a kiloton, and Wikipedia claims it could go up to six. The trouble with Davy Crockett was always it's range, not yield - there's little point in firing a missile that will blow up the person firing it, and the US military's supply of Apokalyptan death robots has always been severely limited.
Multiple warheads do not all come down together as that is pointless, the first one to detonate would fry (as in EMP) the others. (this is called 'fratricide')
In fairness, they did just demonstrate the ability to destroy the payload before it detonates. An absurdly paranoid level of redundancy might actually be warranted here.

EDIT: this is a little offtopic, but I wanted to share the glorious goofiness of the Davy Crockett with you all:


Look at that thing. Just look at it. Glorious. It looks like something out of Fallout. Black & white really doesn't capture the sheer goofiness of the thing.
 
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A briefcase nuke huh? That's actually going to be pretty low power. This is the W55 warhead it was used in the Davy Crockett and intended for use as a backpack nuke. It had a yield of about 10 tons of TNT, yes not kilotons tons, which while powerful for it's size isn't that much.

Considering that a briefcase is even smaller...

I imagine the only reason Renegade is having any trouble tanking this is because it's either enhanced with technology from Apokolips, the explosion being contained and not allowed to dissipate, or a combination of the two.
Honestly, it's not really feasible to make a nuke much smaller than the W55, in either physical size or yield. At least, not in our universe. I could easily see DCAU-supertech allowing the development of a physically smaller weapon, though not much smaller in yield.

Alternatively, it could be a simple matter/antimatter annihilation weapon; a few milligrams of hydrogen and antihydrogen would be sufficient to get a yield comparable to that of a "nominal" nuke (20 kilotons--the size of the one used at the Trinity test and the one dropped on Nagasaki), and could fit into a briefcase if you had schizotech power generators to maintain the magnetic fields holding the two parts of the payload apart.

Where did the energy from the nuclear blast go? :confused:
A good deal of it, when contained inside a structure that prevents the blast from venting, would go into compressing and heating the gases and plasma within the structure, and end up being radiated away as electromagnetic radiation--everything from heat and visible light to radio waves and gamma rays. If Nightwing gives him good enough instructions, there's no reason that Kyle couldn't make the barrier transparent to EM radiation in a specified sector, allowing it to radiate outwards in a focused "beam" that directs it away from doing collateral damage. (It'd suck to be caught in the path of the beam, but anything outside the beam would be pretty safe.) Project Excalibur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia was a real-world project to essentially make use of such an effect.
 
What's script? Tellmetellmetellmetellme
Ah neat, you've got the upgraded one. I've just been using this one for now because I couldn't remember where the better one was:
Code:
// Your code here...
// ==UserScript==
// @name         Invisible text revealer
// @namespace    http://random832.local/
// @description   Reveals invisible text on forums
// @match        https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/*
// @include      https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/*
// @match        https://forums.spacebattles.com/*
// @include      https://forums.spacebattles.com/* 
// @match        https://forum.questionablequesting.com/*
// @include      https://forum.questionablequesting.com/*
// @version      0.2.1
// @grant        none
// ==/UserScript==

function iterate_spans() {
    var spans = document.getElementsByTagName('span');
    for(var i=0;i<spans.length;i++) {
        span = spans[i];
        if(span.style.color.toLowerCase() == 'transparent') {
            span.className += ' invisitext';
            span.style.color = null;
        }
    }
}

function add_new_css() {
    var node = document.createElement('style');
    css = '.invisitext { border: 1px dotted red; color: transparent }';
    css += '.invisitext:hover { color: red }';
    node.textContent = css;
    document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(node);
}

function main() {
    add_new_css();
    iterate_spans();
}

main();
Yours is better, I think I'll use that instead.
 
And he has alienated everyone who would have the information needed to try.

That's actually kinda funny, cuz OL -does- have mana battery tech, thanks to Power Ring and that universe's john constantine.

Also:

As some of you know, XCOM 2 is coming out tonight (or is already out, depending where you live)

I have decided you are going to help me take back earth. If you'd like to be added to my character pool, toss me a PM (please don't clutter the thread) with the character's name, gender, nickname, nationality, preferred look/color scheme, and class preference. (Zoat is obviously an orange colored british psi officer named Paul Candle, nickname Zoat :p )

I won't be using anyone who hasn't given me permission, so no worries about dying on my virtual battlefield if you don't want me using your likeness ;)
 
You know what? Wouldn't it be just great that Grayven really dies?

It's not like I would like to see your reaction to it or more Blue Lantern, no sir.
 
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