Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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Nah, Sivana Jr has enough madness and enough genius to make up for the Coop shaped gap.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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Science
If you're reading this, omae wa mo shindeiru.
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Boobs, that's why.
I mean, planet named after a goddess of love, hormonal teenage boy...
Speaking of Ambush Bug, I remember him saying something like if he killed the SI, Earth 16 would fold back into canon.
Would that actually happen if Ambush Bug managed to kill or at least displace the SI for a few years? Would everything that's happened so far just come undone?
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Using Mad Science basicaly requires a super powered babysitter to be on the side of good. Hence why the Metal Men were created, they are there to make their creator stay away from evil, and even then Doc Magnus still slips once in a while.
And why in the Omakes were I did Mad Science Paul he ended building his own robotic sitter based on the Metal Men.
The only reason Doctor Fantastic is in the side of good and not taking over the world? He has a super family to make sure he never gets that far.
Batman, who is some continuities rivals Mad Science Lex Luthor in genius, has at least Alfred and Gordon to keep him from slipping.
That's why Batman doesn't kill. He is aware that if he does, he won't stop.
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reactivate
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- australia
*shudders* that always made my skin crawl.
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and note, that Dr Magnus is LITERALLY THE best-case Scenario, as he KNOWS he is TERRIFYINGLY dangerous when NOT medicated >.>
Prince Charon
Just zis guy, you know?
"I told you I do crazy things without my meds!" (Said after he did some damn crazy shit due to a fellow mad scientist (T. O. Morrow, I think) keeping him away from his pills, so that he'd be more effective in helping him with his latest mad scheme.)
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Thank you, corrected.
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No such group presently exists on Earth 16. Nor has existed in the past.
Melinoë has returned to Erebos.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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- Baton Rouge
Only the stuff specific to them though, not Venus or Beautia's stuff, if they have any. Tit for tat.
Like, it would be hilarious if OL could reach behind Guy's ear and pull out Guy's Lantern, chiding him on keeping it where just anyone could find it. He probably can't, because Guy got had a teacher for being a Lantern unlike OL, but it would be great.
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huh. would a device capable of inducing a localised Vacuum Collapse contained within their bodies potentialy do the trick? you'd think it'd at least cause massive, systemic trauma given that, as with most living entities, their existence is rather dependant on reality working the way it is just to FUNCTION.
erm. as an emergency/last resort measure if non-lethal Pacification/Diplomacy isn't possible. i KNOW this isn't renegade >.>
erm. as an emergency/last resort measure if non-lethal Pacification/Diplomacy isn't possible. i KNOW this isn't renegade >.>
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Honestly, the thing to keep in mind is that this fucker is a sapient planar rift. Hit him with an interdiction field and he should pop like a soap bubble.
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wait. no. anything capable of Inducing a False-Vacuum Collapse scenario, localised or not is bad >.>
*slaps himself for suggesting a literally universe-scale doomsday weapon*
*slaps himself for suggesting a literally universe-scale doomsday weapon*
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Oh had a thought.
If the animal masters exist in this continuity, then Paul should really look them up for helping the Martians.
For those of you who didn't read Animal Man, the animal masters are a group of shaman connected to the Red whose job is to invent new forms of life.
Mars is a planet that pretty much needs an entirely new biome.
If the animal masters don't exist, then Animal Man was empowered by the yellow aliens, in which case what could be done to Buddy Baker could be duplicated, adding animal powers to Paul's rather minimal collection of power granting methods.
Like say, a certain Garfield Logan who I have an odd feeling could do well with animal based powers.
So it's a win either way.
There was a discussion a while back as to whether dannering everyone would effect the metagene, and I'd say it could, but not in the way you folks were thinking about.
I don't see the Dannering process suppressing the metagene. After all, the danner process isn't genetic, which is why Paul was surprised it was inheritable, but in the DC franchise, things don't need to be genetic to be inheritable. Examples include Swamp Thing's daughter inheriting his plant elemental nature despite John Constantine being her biological father, Wonder Woman's children inheriting her divine gifts in various continuities, Amethyst inheriting her parent's Lord of Order status, and Homo Magi being a thing despite there being no evidence that there's a "magic gene." So if anyone thought Zoat was being weird for soul inheritance being a thing in this story, Zoat is just following DC's example.
That being said, the metagene typically manifests in fly or die like situations, and when you're Superman tough those are a little harder to come by. And if the metagene does manifest, well since the metagene is conditional, it might glom onto the danner formula and enhance the strength and toughness even higher.
Iron Monro's great grandson might be an example of that. Son of Kate Spencer, he apparently will grow up to make Iron Monro look like someone who needs to order the Charles Atlas exercise program.
Or maybe not, the metagene isn't very predictable. In the DC franchise being struck by lightning has given superspeed, electrical powers, and life force vampirism, as an example.
If the animal masters exist in this continuity, then Paul should really look them up for helping the Martians.
For those of you who didn't read Animal Man, the animal masters are a group of shaman connected to the Red whose job is to invent new forms of life.
Mars is a planet that pretty much needs an entirely new biome.
If the animal masters don't exist, then Animal Man was empowered by the yellow aliens, in which case what could be done to Buddy Baker could be duplicated, adding animal powers to Paul's rather minimal collection of power granting methods.
Like say, a certain Garfield Logan who I have an odd feeling could do well with animal based powers.
So it's a win either way.
There was a discussion a while back as to whether dannering everyone would effect the metagene, and I'd say it could, but not in the way you folks were thinking about.
I don't see the Dannering process suppressing the metagene. After all, the danner process isn't genetic, which is why Paul was surprised it was inheritable, but in the DC franchise, things don't need to be genetic to be inheritable. Examples include Swamp Thing's daughter inheriting his plant elemental nature despite John Constantine being her biological father, Wonder Woman's children inheriting her divine gifts in various continuities, Amethyst inheriting her parent's Lord of Order status, and Homo Magi being a thing despite there being no evidence that there's a "magic gene." So if anyone thought Zoat was being weird for soul inheritance being a thing in this story, Zoat is just following DC's example.
That being said, the metagene typically manifests in fly or die like situations, and when you're Superman tough those are a little harder to come by. And if the metagene does manifest, well since the metagene is conditional, it might glom onto the danner formula and enhance the strength and toughness even higher.
Iron Monro's great grandson might be an example of that. Son of Kate Spencer, he apparently will grow up to make Iron Monro look like someone who needs to order the Charles Atlas exercise program.
Or maybe not, the metagene isn't very predictable. In the DC franchise being struck by lightning has given superspeed, electrical powers, and life force vampirism, as an example.
Statistically, most murders are one-time crimes of passion or robberies that go bad, etc etc. Killing a dannered person is something you have to make a specific effort to do. This also makes court cases easier since you really can't claim it was an accident if you do murder someone.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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Just thought of something: So the original Zeta teleportation system was mentioned a few updates back. The main advantage it has above the current tube system is it doesn't need a sending station, although it has problems with keeping living beings from dying. However, that drawback isn't relevant if it was weaponized, and speed/accuracy are more important. I think that given OL's current knowledge on how zeta teleportation works, it would be possible to build a single station able to telefrag anything in the inner solar system given it has the necessary coordinates to hit.
The main advantage of this system, aside from the ludicrous range, is that it should work on anything that isn't actively blocking it. Zeta tubes have been shown to teleport New Gods, emotional embodiments, Maltusian tech, active constructs, and even Lords of Order. Given that messing up teleportation is easier than doing it correctly, a zeta telefrag station should be able to kill basically anything that relies on a physical form and doesn't have some conceptual defense against harm.
The main advantage of this system, aside from the ludicrous range, is that it should work on anything that isn't actively blocking it. Zeta tubes have been shown to teleport New Gods, emotional embodiments, Maltusian tech, active constructs, and even Lords of Order. Given that messing up teleportation is easier than doing it correctly, a zeta telefrag station should be able to kill basically anything that relies on a physical form and doesn't have some conceptual defense against harm.
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from memory, didn't Paul mention something about Weaponized Zeta technology back BEFORE the Para/Ren split?
also, speaking of Zeta, any word on that Robot. wait. wrong time period?
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Well "reliant on a physical form" and "dying when your physical form buys the farm" aren't quite the same thing.
Telefrag Swamp Thing- He'll grow a new body out of uneaten veggies, except now he's annoyed.
Telefrag a Lord of Order or Chaos- Destroyed their body, they'll just grab a new one, and they're annoyed with you.
Telefrag Zauriel- He'll just order another body from the Angelic body shop, and he'll be annoyed with you.
Weaponized teleportation was the basis of the alien invasion in the telepathic training scenario.
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i remember that, but i also rememeber something from his inner monologue/train of thought about the basis for his innate distrust of Zeta Tube tech. both the issue with "packet loss" AND at least one polity weaponizeing the tech en-masse
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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Telefragging was, but weaponizing it wasn't mentioned because both a transmitter and receiver were required.
Swamp Thing and Lords of Order/Chaos only require physical forms in order to interact with the world. They don't require those forms to live, and so are excluded by the caveat "reliant on a physical form".
However, currently Klarion is not connected to his chaos magic true self, and so could be killed by a telefrag.
No idea about Zauriel.
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Lets see them doing that after being telefraged by the SotF. Also seeing as Nabu was stuck on a shelf for decades, it's obviously not that easy.
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CrackedCosmonaut
I am not angry.
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Send the Deamon swarm INSIDE him with instructions to devour every star, and then consume each other.
Eventually they'll all collapse into a singularity. Tummy ache.
Eventually they'll all collapse into a singularity. Tummy ache.
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