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- Hampden Park
Canon character. Can't find a image link, but he was a Mars 2 colonist.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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- Sector 2814
Given the combination of 1) the fad popularity of J'aarkin's memories, 2) at least some of the released memories containing pornographic material, 3) Paul needing a girlfriend/boyfriend, 4) J'emm being notably liberal despite the highly conservative society, and 5) Paul having not perused J'aarkin's memories... Eris worship may not be the sole cause of Paul rubbing a red martian the wrong way.
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- Location
- Alabama
There are far too many right ways to rub a red Martian.
Krazyfan1
Worrying for the future.
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- Australia
they ARE shapeshifters after all...
What does "super" come form?
Superhuman.
When all of humanity has powers, there will be no "superhumans". People with powers will just be "humans".
The very definition of "super" requires there to be some baseline that you are above.
If the baseline is raised so everyone is on the same level (which is now higher than before) then nobody is superior anymore.
On a world where everyone has exactly the same powers as superman, he's not superman anymore. He's just "Man"
Removing heroes is probably a part of his plan, but it doesn't really enter into the quote itself.
Batman has no powers but he's still a hero. (I'm not counting "money" as a power right now)
In a world where everyone is "incredible" then Mr incredible is only special as a vigilante who tries to help people.
Sure, it's praiseworthy in it's own way, but he's not biologically superior to the rest of humanity anymore. He's just "Mister" now.
On a completely even playing field where everyone has powers (or the same powers) then you could still have heroes, but they wouldn't be superheroes.
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Is OL's facility with telepathy the other mental quirk that Zoat says he's supposed to have in addition to the name thing?
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
- Location
- Squiddy Places
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- Leeds
"Abducted".
Stratagemini
Totally a Fire Ferret.
- Location
- Central Park
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- He/Him/They/Them
Just be careful that you speak to the real J'emm. I heard the prelate is unduly fond of using Holograms.
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- Elsewhere
Martian Governance has been stable for thousands of years based on the principles of Communication, Community-Mindedness and Mind Control.
Mostly Mind Control.
Merely to note, we may have two different tropes at work here. TV tropes ahead; beware the wiki walk and all that.
On the one hand, bigreader and abcd_z bring up the Flat-Earth Atheist - someone who lives in a world where supernatural or divine things are blatantly evident yet actively disbelieves that there are gods (or in some cases, supernatural or extraordinary things). In Young Justice proper, Kid Flash starts in this category; despite having plenty of evidence in the form of magic-using teammates and League members, he asserts that there's no such thing as magic.
I would argue that Luthor, in the comic linked by Mr. Mr Zoat, is actually bringing up the other, related trope: the Nay-theist. This is the character who fully recognizes that there are gods or divine beings of other note, they just see them as unworthy of worship or recognition, or reject their authority. Lex allows for the potential of "divine" beings, beings that create life and govern the afterlife, but he doesn't have any faith - in any sense of the word - in them. He may "believe" they exist, but he doesn't "believe" in anything resembling a spiritual sense.
There is some wiggle room between the two when it comes to characters who use the "up-jumped elemental" style of rhetoric, recognizing both supernatural power and great beings of such power but being skeptical about great supernatural beings being "gods" - either based on semantics when it comes to defining "god" or how deserved the supernatural beings are of the title and associations.
Dakkan Sall
Random Encounter
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- On the world map
Soooo... Reds are similar to Tau Ethereal Caste, then? Only they didn't pop out en mass from nowhere when they took over?
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- Kansas
I'm hoping that J'emm will end up throwing Paul some curve balls. Imagine if Paul goes in expecting a stuck up noble who believe Reds were born entitled to rule, but instead gets a martian that is frustrated with the lack of motivation among the greens and whites. "Do you know how many years I've spent trying to encourage the greens and whites to take part in the governmental positions? But no, they keep pushing all that responsibility back on us reds. I just want to sit back and watch my human soaps, but there is always some administrative task or another that needs done. Do you realize how hard it is to delegate stuff when most of the martians you try to delegate to claim they are unworthy of handling such an important decision, that those choices should be reserved for the reds alone?"
Hestia&theCourt
Turns out we're plural too.
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- In transition
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- She/Her
...I like this. I may have to
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- Wishing I was somewhere much colder, I asssume.
The idea behind that line is that when everyone has superpowers, having superpowers no longer makes someone special.
If everyone has those kinds of abilities, then there's no longer any superheroes, just regular people solving their own problems.
The Grey Mage
Certified Team Flare Hater
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- Parallel Universe 43-j
Sure the generation who gets the powers will still think about it as being super. But what about their children, or their grandchildren? Eventually something that is amazing and impossible such as, I don't know, planes, will eventually become something standard and ordinary.
And then no one will be "super".
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
- Location
- The Future
Wasn't it mentioned that the Red X on Martians with John, Megan, and shown in the comics is a form of clothing that are symbiotes that can transform with the user?
Wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to form uniforms with it but then I guess there is no need to since most Martians can likely tell who the police are right off the batt with telepathy.
Martian
What do those look like again?
Getting a real Ethereal Caste vibe here.
Leaders that all other Martians find perfect and follow them without question leading to a perfect, united, stable government? Certainly sounds like some kind of mind control even if passive in it's affects.
rkyeun
Cabbitus Maximus
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- ◕ ‿‿ ◕
So... when everyone is dressed as a bat, he'll merely be a man?
daimahou
Hear... Feel... Think...
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- 「 」
A man dressed like a bat will always be a man dressed like a bat.
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- Hampden Park
Misty Power
*Tries to tell joke* Nok.
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- Japan
I swear you are doing this on purpose now. It used to not be as common, and now it seems to pop up every few updates or so.
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- Canada
'Looks at the literal absurd of corrections done over the years'. I don't know, Zoat was always very fond of displaying his, uh, unique take on the english language.
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- Pittsburgh, PA
And if Batman doesn't also get powers by the time even random goons can pull his head off with their minds or blast a hole clean through him with laser-vision, then he's stopped being a paragon of common humanity and become the equivalent of a paraplegic who insists on trying to fight the cartels out of sheer suicidal self-delusion. The world has moved on, and he's a forgotten dinosaur.
There was an entire webcomic kind of in this vein, where a disease brought by alien invaders ended up giving 99% of the human population superpowers; the handful of people who proved immune to its effects were basically occupying the same social status that cripples and the congenitally deformed once did.
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