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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Empiricist2 said:
Not in modern backup services. There's a thing called snapshots that makes this problem nonexistent
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I am aware of the existence of snapshots, are you aware of the word typically?

Regardless, my point stands. RAID is literally backup by definition, when an EXPERT says "raid is not backup" what they mean to say is "I am using a soundbite because it is easier to sell stupid bosses on it, RAID is technically backup, but it is a really poor backup system on its own."

when a layman says it, they are regurgitating soundbites without understanding it.
Gantradies said:
after two idiots passworded their BIOS,forgot the password
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That is fake hardware raid. it has all of the drawbacks of software raid, all of the drawbacks of hardware raid, none of the benefits of either, and some unique drawbacks to itself (bios password thing, also losses array when bios is upgraded or when cmos battery dies). Never ever ever use the mobo bios raid

Gantradies said:
i know those are minority cases, but.. you know. first impressions and all XD
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With mobo raid it is only a question of time. 100% of mobo cmos batteries eventually die on you, and that means a lost array. although it is worth noting that if you know what you are doing it IS possible to recover from that. I have in fact done so in the past

Your impressions are overall solid though.

BTW, speaking of modern. BTRFS and ZFS benefit greatly from RAID1 / 5 in that it allows them to catch and correct silent file corruption.
 
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mrttao said:
I am aware of the existence of snapshots, are you aware of the word typically?
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Typically, in my experience, it's hourly snapshots.

Oh, and RAID isn't necessarily providing any extra data integrity. I have a friend who had a RAID-0 array which he used for 3D rendering; if one of those drives had failed he'd have lost all of the data on that array. I also ran across RAID-0 arrays at work which weren't necessarily set up with that understanding...

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BTW, speaking of modern. BTRFS and ZFS benefit greatly from RAID1 / 5 in that it allows them to catch and correct silent file corruption.
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At this time, BTRFS does not benefit from RAID-5, in that it will eat your data. Seriously, RAID-5 and 6 support in it is broken horribly.

Edit2: And just because RAID isn't a backup system doesn't mean it would help protect against mind controlling alien squids either, just in case anyone was wondering.
 
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Sceptic said:
Typically, in my experience, it's hourly snapshots.
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Numerically, the vast majority of the users of backups are home users.
And even in businesses, numerically most businesses are small businesses, too small to even have an IT department.

Sceptic said:
I have a friend who had a RAID-0 array which he used for 3D rendering
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I did explicitly refer to RAID1/5.
RAID1/5 contains redundancy, aka "backup" of data (by definition, even if it is a poor backup for most purposes).
RAID0 has no redundancy at all.

also, in context of the conversation it seemed quite clear that the reference was to RAID1/5

Sceptic said:
At this time, BTRFS does not benefit from RAID-5, in that it will eat your data. Seriously, RAID-5 and 6 support in it is broken horribly.
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Thank you, that was informative. I had not had a chance to specifically use RAID5 btrfs. I have used btrfs on single drive and ZFS on RAID1 and RAID5.
Currently I am mainly using ZFS RAID1 + online snapshot backup (encrypted with a password not known to host) + on site regular backups.

Incidentally, I actually had cases of silent file corruption being caught and corrected by ZFS which was really neat. And also alerted me to the hardware issue that needed fixing, as this was the only indication that something was going wrong.
 
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Aw, is the discussion over? But I could talk about MY former employer, and I used to work for Google!
 
Ok stupid question but can someone dumb down how the starfish took over and when?

Having a hard time following the chain of events here.
 
Massgamer said:
Ok stupid question but can someone dumb down how the starfish took over and when?

Having a hard time following the chain of events here.
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If it happened the same way as in the Renegade's timeline, one of the Starros developed telekinesis and used that to put some Starro-tech on someone, then used them to put more Starro-tech on more people, until they had enough to let the Starros out.
 
Winged One said:
If it happened the same way as in the Renegade's timeline, one of the Starros developed telekinesis and used that to put some Starro-tech on someone, then used them to put more Starro-tech on more people, until they had enough to let the Starros out.
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I thought there was only the one starro that got turned into soup.

Where did more of them come from?
 
Massgamer said:
I thought there was only the one starro that got turned into soup.

Where did more of them come from?
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soup starro comes from atlantean research facility
the whole ones come from The Light's laboratory

just lex and the other villains being idiots without grayven there to keep them in line.
and keep in mind that in the main timeline queen bea and klarion are both still alive and still members of the light as well.
 
Oh I was thinking that the Superman storyline Infinite City might be interesting to see in this fic.

A rundown for anyone who didn't read it- Lois and Clark go through a portal to Infinite City, an extradimensional bubble with portals to all sorts of worlds where the people speak Kryptonian and use Rao's name in vain, run by a blond guy called the Warden and his father, the robotic Mayor.

Turns out that Jor-el's "ship my son to Earth" was plan B, Jor-el was working on an evacuation plan where all of Krypton would be evacuated to Infinite City but it took longer than he had available, but Jor-el managed to transfer his mind into a robot, hence the Mayor.

The Mayor then grew a clone of his son, hence the Warden (also named Kal-el, apparently their mother really liked that name), but thanks to the laws of physics being different in Infinite City he doesn't look exactly like Superman.

I think Conner's reaction to a robotic grandfather and a clone uncle could be interesting, among other things.

Jor-el at least won't mind having a non-fullblooded kryptonian grandson, in the storyline I remember, after finding out that Clark is his son and that he's married to Lois, that he asked her "Have you considered biological reproduction with my son?"

Which was not a topic she was willing to discuss with her in law for some strange reason. :)
 
stsword said:
Oh I was thinking that the Superman storyline Infinite City might be interesting to see in this fic.

A rundown for anyone who didn't read it- Lois and Clark go through a portal to Infinite City, an extradimensional bubble with portals to all sorts of worlds where the people speak Kryptonian and use Rao's name in vain, run by a blond guy called the Warden and his father, the robotic Mayor.

Turns out that Jor-el's "ship my son to Earth" was plan B, Jor-el was working on an evacuation plan where all of Krypton would be evacuated to Infinite City but it took longer than he had available, but Jor-el managed to transfer his mind into a robot, hence the Mayor.

The Mayor then grew a clone of his son, hence the Warden (also named Kal-el, apparently their mother really liked that name), but thanks to the laws of physics being different in Infinite City he doesn't look exactly like Superman.

I think Conner's reaction to a robotic grandfather and a clone uncle could be interesting, among other things.

Jor-el at least won't mind having a non-fullblooded kryptonian grandson, in the storyline I remember, after finding out that Clark is his son and that he's married to Lois, that he asked her "Have you considered biological reproduction with my son?"

Which was not a topic she was willing to discuss with her in law for some strange reason. :)
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I really wonder what they cut their Bolivian Marching Powder with to get things like that greenlit?
 
Stroth said:
You don't works at a place like STAR Labs if you're going to get hung up about double blind studies and peer reviews. Reverse engineering bleeding edge hyper-tech doesn't really allow for it.
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Mr Zoat said:
Why did you think they were so slow?
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And still alive.



shepsquared said:
I somehow doubt Ion is vulnerable to Starro's control.
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Dr. Bob Doom said:
Ion has a face, doesn't it?
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I'm picturing a Starro slapping itself onto Ion's face, Ion pausing for a moment, and then Ion slurping the Starro in and swallowing it.

"MMMMM. Yummy."
 
Hey Mister Zoat, are you going to do anything with the Royal Flush Gang, like saving them before the Joker gets there? Because it seems like an awful waste if not. After all, they're loyal to whoever frees them and pretty damn powerful. it would be easy to free them and flip them to the good side. Plus, it's a horrible, horrible thing to do to someone, especially a kid, and they need some serious therapy ASAP.

Also, has it occurred to anyone that when Cyborg comes around Paul might just fix his body right off the bat? I mean, Paul could give him/he could design a mecha suit if he still wants to stay in the hero biz, but it isn't necessary for him to be a cyborg with Paul there, and I seem to recall it giving Vic a whole lot of angst.

Also, to those Lantern SI fanfic writers out there: a job that any lantern could do, of any color, and make money? Translator. Little to no energy required!
 
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Avernus said:
That's not likely to happen in the course of the story, timewise.
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run: wide_eyed_innocence_and_trembling_lip.exe

What do you mean? We're here forever, aren't we?


Rae Kid said:
Also, to those Lantern SI fanfic writers out there: a job that any lantern could do, of any color, and make money? Translator. Little to no energy required!
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This is pretty clever, honestly. Has anyone done this yet? You could insert yourself into some pretty powerful places just by offering a monopoly on true translation.
 
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Rae Kid said:
Hey Mister Zoat, are you going to do anything with the Royal Flush Gang, like saving them before the Joker gets there?
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Which Royal Flush Gang? The version from Earth 50 never worked under that name and are effectively apprenticed to Stormwatch. The Earth 16 version are pretty much the comic version and don't have anything to do with Mister Napier.
 
Although the Earth 16 version might be associated with Jervis Tetch instead, since he also has a Playing Card angle to his theme; but I don't think the Mad Hatter ever appeared in Young Justice, so we wouldn't know
 
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