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The... cute pink thing? What do you mean? Is this one of those messed up web animations where the cute animals are secretly evil or something?
Look how she's translucent. Clearly she's not really a pony, just something gelatinous mimicking the shape of one. A shoggoth-pony. As soon as the episode is over she probably turns into a mass of eyes and mouths and tentacles.
 
Hey, I never knew this. Dwayne McDuffie posted that when Lex hands the ALE to Darkseid in the finale of JLU and the two of them disappear, they end up stuck as statues in the Source Wall.

Thought that was interesting. I've always watched that and just assumed they ascended or whatever or disappeared, only to come back sometime in the future.

Unless comics canon from the JLU Beyond contradicts this?
 
Hey, I never knew this. Dwayne McDuffie posted that when Lex hands the ALE to Darkseid in the finale of JLU and the two of them disappear, they end up stuck as statues in the Source Wall.

Thought that was interesting. I've always watched that and just assumed they ascended or whatever or disappeared, only to come back sometime in the future.

Unless comics canon from the JLU Beyond contradicts this?

Is not like being stuck in the Source Wall has ever permanently stop Darkseid.
 
Ace isn't that powerful that she could on the fly construct an entire realistic mental scenario that is so good that the high-end New God she's using it on doesn't even notice.

F#$%, at least I hope not.
She's pretty powerful in canon, although I don't think she's ever exhibited that exact suite of powers.
Can't recall where/when, but it was WoZ. Basicly, the Orange Light of Avarice 'feels' Apokalypian to New Gods. Paul was Paulphidian at the time and radiating vast amounts of Orange Light. In Renegade-verse, they didn't really sense OL until they entered Mount Justice. In Paragon-verse, they could pick him/them up from hundreds of miles away and decided they were outclassed.
Didn't hurt that, if I recall correctly, this was during Paulphidian.
Wasn't Guy an ex-Green Lantern in this version?

*checks*

Huh. Chalk one up for Fate, I guess, that he happened to be the one who got a Power Ring.

1)Noone has a defense against teleporters besides magic.
If your base isn't warded....
Paragon's Team (and Lex Luthor's base in canon) has those forcefield generators. Bel Reve has turrets.
Kara In-Ze's response time was entirely reasonable.
It was. It's just worse than it would have been if they had teleporters - or rather, if they had teleporters integrated properly, since Zoat says they do have them.

I will note that SHADE threw a Blaster/Mover/Brute/Trump (Yellow Ring!Guy Gardner) at Grayven before Kara got there.
Then they sent a Blaster/Mover/Brute/Thinker(Supergirl).
Guy seized the McGuffin of his own initiative, and lost almost immediately because he hadn't had the time to master it. He even noted that "hiding these away was a mistake".

Kara showed up after the supervillain had acquired the McGuffin he needed to become all-powerful. She's also precisely useless against a high-level Brute/Mover combo like Grayven had revealed himself to be, since he can teleport away from her atttacks and isn't impaired if she does manage to clip him.

But then, as Zoat said, she was the only one who had a chance of getting there in time.
1) Team loadouts are flash-fabricated by power ring hypertech.
I was referring to the canon Team's standard loadout - specifically, Robin's, Artemis' and Red Arrow's.

They have several countermeasures for dealing with Brutes, which is why they don't get pasted immediately like idiots. (To be fair, they all have some kind of low-level Thinker/Brute super-agility thing going on that regular forces don't have.)
SHADE did not have a cooperative power ring to do their logistics, and have an entire country's worth of operatives to equip.
Shit ain't easy.
Well, they did have a power ring sitting in their basement...
 
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Scott, yeah. But I doubt BERTHA is. Bertha!? :o
Heh, whoops.

They have several countermeasures for dealing with Brutes, which is why they don't get pasted immediately like idiots. (To be fair, they all have some kind of low-level Thinker/Brute super-agility thing going on that regular forces don't have.)
The "containment foam" was used like, once (which is annoying, considering how effective it was). SHADE grunts should definitely have grenades and some other weaponry.
 
Wait, is SHADE supposed to be the counterpart of the Shadows?
  • Leader is a low-level metahuman whose only power is immortality.
  • Some metahuman operatives, but not on the same scale as the Team.
  • Dealing with Apokalypse
  • Keep their valuable Schizotech resources (vault o' schizotech, nano-fog) in easily-breached bases filled with disposable mooks.
  • Mooks wield guns and what appear to be goggles (?), but are utterly useless against metahumans.
  • Engaged in an elaborate political plot where they appear to work in response to Lex Luthor's political aspirations, but are actually pursuing the same goal of slow but steady world domination.
Also, they're named SHADE.
 
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Oh yes there will be more tears, Grayven will be forced to watch lame copies of his favorite shows.

"THEY GOT THE WORST OF STAR WARS AND STAR TREK AND PUT IT TOGETHER IN THE SAME SHOW!"
 
Is not like being stuck in the Source Wall has ever permanently stop Darkseid.

True, but this isn't the comics. It's a TV show with a limited run, and the finale of the TV show. In the comics, bringing back a long dead villain or hero might lead to increased sales, so they do it all the time, to the point where death is meaningless. Hell, it's lampshaded in Blackest Night, the Justice League become White Lanterns temporarily because they have all died and come back. The finale of the TV show having an ending like that just makes good sense, and it feels kind of silly to wank Darkseid so hard that you assume he'll come back in the future.
 
Paragon's Team (and Lex Luthor's base in canon) has those forcefield generators. Bel Reve has turrets.
That's in Universe 16R (for Renegade, Paul is 16P, and canon YJ is 16) while this is taking place in universe 50, where teleporters (both mechanical and cape) are rare and defenses against them even rarer.

Well, they did have a power ring sitting in their basement...
but not a cooperative ring. ;)
 
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