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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Sceptic said:
The Grayven side is getting early warning about there being a Star Conqueror on the loose. So they're automatically less screwed than the paragon side.
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And we have a new hypothesis for why Guy was feeling unwell.
This is disquieting because Guy is the current host of Ion.

Starro must be operating at significantly higher levels of intelligence to deliberately target Gardner, though.
 
Sceptic said:
The Grayven side is getting early warning about there being a Star Conqueror on the loose. So they're automatically less screwed than the paragon side.
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What makes you assume that this is even happening in the Paragon verse?

Unlike Renagade the Light has pretty much been dismantled there on top of which the Watch Tower has all those nifty active sensors set to detect them after OL's warning to the Corps.
 
But Luthor probably still has the remnants of the Starro on the Paragon side. So the trouble still exists.

I wonder if Faceless the Hunter exists here or if the Starros are just Starros?
 
Vaermina said:
Unlike Renagade the Light has pretty much been dismantled there on top of which the Watch Tower has all those nifty active sensors set to detect them after OL's warning to the Corps.
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Wrong.
The League of Shadows has been neutered. Beena is dead.
But.

Brain is still at large. Intergang is still working. Truggs is still at large. So is Ra's.
Klarion isn't dead. Neither is Vandal Savage. Luthor still has plausible deniability, and influence over Match.
There are anti-scry wards everywhere.

And there remains sufficient illicit traffic for a complete Apokoliptian strike team to be inserted into the Middle East with heavy weapons and kill switches.
Note that the Justice League didn't recover the original samples used to create the controltech, both here and in the Paragonverse.
Or the lab where the development work was done on the weapon.

Do not mistake the fact that the Light have been driven underground for their being dismantled.
Just means they are operating smarter.
 
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Vaermina said:
Unlike Renegade the Light has pretty much been dismantled there on top of which the Watch Tower has all those nifty active sensors set to detect them after OL's warning to the Corps.
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Those are deep space sensors, set up to detect the larger types of Star Conqueror by the distortions they make in space-time when they move through space. They don't detect Star Conquerors running silently.
 
Thought experiment: Assimilated Starro

What happens? Can it then bind and enthrall to the will of the Orange Lantern that did so? How about brandings?
 
Silverias said:
Thought experiment: Assimilated Starro

What happens? Can it then bind and enthrall to the will of the Orange Lantern that did so? How about brandings?
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I can't remember the exact episode and I'm on a phone right now, but when the league attacks the team on renegade side graven attempts to assimilate a patch and while he can it's very slow, with the implications being that he is attempting to assimilate the entire network. Whether that was all the conquerors or all Starro's, it still gives a pretty good idea of what would happen.
 
Artemisnemo said:
I can't remember the exact episode and I'm on a phone right now, but when the league attacks the team on renegade side graven attempts to assimilate a patch and while he can it's very slow, with the implications being that he is attempting to assimilate the entire network. Whether that was all the conquerors or all Starro's, it still gives a pretty good idea of what would happen.
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Well, remember, OL has the Babum on his side.

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Artemisnemo said:
I can't remember the exact episode and I'm on a phone right now, but when the league attacks the team on renegade side graven attempts to assimilate a patch and while he can it's very slow, with the implications being that he is attempting to assimilate the entire network. Whether that was all the conquerors or all Starro's, it still gives a pretty good idea of what would happen.
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Gude-Willie Waught, part... three and a half, I guess?
Mr Zoat said:
One of the Starro-thing's tentacles is through my construct armour. Ring, assimilate the bloody thing!

Tiny filaments attach themselves to it from both the inside and outside of the armour, pulling it away from me. Identity Theft in progress. Progress negligible.

Odd, but as long as it isn't coming at me any more I'll live with it.

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Ring, assimilation progress?

No significant progress has occurred.

Very odd. Usually it either flat out doesn't work or there's at least some progress. I got Nabu faster than this.
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One has to wonder: If effects targeting a single Star Conqueror can ripple out to the entire collective, does that imply a single hostile spellcaster could kill the lot? Though since it hasn't happened yet, presumably it either wouldn't actually work or takes more power than anyone who's tried has had available.
 
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Squiddlebuddy said:
One has to wonder: If effects targeting a single Star Conqueror can ripple out to the entire collective, does that imply a single hostile spellcaster could kill the lot? Though since it hasn't happened yet, presumably either it wouldn't actually work or takes more power than anyone who's tried has had available.
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While I'd being willing to bet that any Starro counts as a link to all the others, I'm pretty sure this would run into the whole the magical field of Earth only goes a little past the Earth thing. So yes if they're on or near the planet. Probably.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"But we'd have to kill hundreds of people! And that's no even counting the government officials who covered it up for so long! And that might not even have worked!"
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"not", though it may just be incomplete English skills (I forget if she's still using some form of translation effect)
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"It wasn't possible." Lynne is frowning slightly, as if she's been thinking hard and has just realised something. "The war had been going on for years. You must have known that we wouldn't be able to come up with the right solution in a few hours."
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present tense "has"
 
Huh. We haven't seen the hinted-at consequences of Renegade missing the entire Spear of Destiny subplot, have we?

It's a stretch, but the idea of a mind control-off between Super-Hitler and the Space Starfish made me laugh.

Going down that tangent, the idea of "totally-not-a-supervillain" Grayven having to explain to his former team why he's planting Nazi flags is also mildly amusing.
 
justany789 said:
Huh. We haven't seen the hinted-at consequences of Renegade missing the entire Spear of Destiny subplot, have we?

It's a stretch, but the idea of a mind control-off between Super-Hitler and the Space Starfish made me laugh.

Going down that tangent, the idea of "totally-not-a-supervillain" Grayven having to explain to his former team why he's planting Nazi flags is also mildly amusing.
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Spear of Destiny plot doesn't occur in Renegade, at least probably not while he's around. According to Zoat, Krieger's plan was significantly sped up in Paul's timeline as compared to Grayven's.
Mr Zoat said:
Not exactly.

In the SI timeline, Krieger got help from both Klarion and Savage to finalize the arrangements. Klarion gave him additional arcane knowledge that he lacked and Savage put him in contact with the Russian far right. That accelerated his timetable significantly. He's still around in the Renegade timeline, he's just still in the preparation stage.
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Karuadin said:
Spear of Destiny plot doesn't occur in Renegade, at least probably not while he's around. According to Zoat, Krieger's plan was significantly sped up in Paul's timeline as compared to Grayven's.
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Whoops, looks like I only caught the speculation and missed that part, thanks for the info. Looking forward to whatever's coming next, regardless.
 
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